Posted on Jul 19, 2019
SGT Jacob Wellman
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I ETS'd from the Army, with an RE code 1 and honorably discharged, December of 2016 and im currently in the IRR looking to return to active duty. this normally wouldn't be a problem but to explain my history I had gotten a waiver to join (because of an OWI which is basically a DUI in Michigan) and during my leave after AIT in 2011 i received another one. It was some incredibly poor decision making on my part and I regret having done so since but it has almost been eight years since then and I was lucky enough to have my first duty station completely ignore the OWI. So when I got out I had not considered this would come back to haunt me coming back in but that's exactly the problem now. My friend who is a Station commander for recruiting decided to help me but a few weeks in found out his battalion commander would not approve my packet stating that "there are plenty of soldiers without a record we can be taking in" regardless of the discharge and RE code 1. I understand shes only following the rules and my friend has explained it to me but I'm looking to find another way into active duty if there is one. This is what I want to do and I'm going to do everything i can to retire active duty. So is there anything i can do or any good suggestions out there?
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CPT Andrew Wright
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I know a little about recruiting (spent three years with USAREC). Recruiting is NCO business so talk to their battalion CSM (use the chain, Station Commander, First Sergeant, then CSM). You are an NCO (even in the IRR) so use that angle as well. The best selling point I ever heard from a prior service applicant was that he wanted to be a leader again. Best of Luck!
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CPT Andrew Wright
CPT Andrew Wright
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Also ask your recruiter to review the current enlistment criteria. At one time if you had on offense on active duty but still received an honorable discharge you did not need a waiver of that same offense for re-enlistment.
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SGT Jacob Wellman
SGT Jacob Wellman
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I will but I do believe the problem is the army did not annotate it. Its off there record just on mine and during service.
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PFC Jeffrey Herrington
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Recruiting command is who decides who gets to sign up using rules provided to them but higher echelons of recruiting command can decide to override those rules. They can even override a failed MEPS physical. (like for a disabled child that probably won't even live to the age 18 on the DEP program for like 10 years) it's That the roadblock you have is in the command? It's best to find a recruiting CoC that will sign off on your waiver. Which means you have to go outside of that Battalion commanders area and try again. You could also try and go above her but I really have no guidance how to pull that off. Is it against the "business rules" to recruit someone with two DWIs?
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SGT Jacob Wellman
SGT Jacob Wellman
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You and every other enlisted I've met in this process feels the same, believe me. Theres not a whole lot i can do feeling wronged. I think my best solution is within the command that can sign off on this. I think pushing my way to speaking with the CSM or commander of the battalion will do me the best. and if they dont agree....well we have 50 states i can possibly enlist in; however if even one of them denies me, it will show (I.E. no other station will let me in) but if anyone here has a better solution or can help I'm all ears. P.S. So you made it back in? if so congrats
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PFC Jeffrey Herrington
PFC Jeffrey Herrington
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SGT Jacob Wellman - Made it back in? Oh hell no. I have a unique set of skills that I got in the military that makes me a premium asset in the civilian world. It doesn't always feel that way though. I either wore or prepped to wear a uniform all my life before I enlisted, it's a strange feeling when I no longer had one for the first time. My family still looks at me sideways for not being able to retire from the service. SFC Boyd kind of holds up this entire answers section. I want to tag him to answer but I just don't him like that.
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SGT Jacob Wellman
SGT Jacob Wellman
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I get that. I'm a 15r an apache mechanic. I got the A&P and still have my clearance, I've done good for myself especially in the middle east and Germany but after 2 and a half years... yeah I dont care about the money. I want the job in the army. I want the sense of purpose and i want to be a leader in the army. the same position in the army is strictly for a monetary gain and not what I want in life.
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CPT Canon To The Ordinary
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SGT Jacob Wellman - I believe that you have received a lot of excellent advice here. In one of your comments you mentioned "feeling wronged" and I believe your feeling like a victim is really going to hold you back. Have you ever sought voluntary alcohol abuse treatment? Even if you haven't received any additional DUIs, how much alcohol do you still drink? How are you with medications? As a former commander, I would most likely have accepted your first DUI with a verbal reprimand and strongly suggested some self initiated counselling. The responsibility demonstrated by voluntarily seeking treatment serves to somewhat counterbalance the irresponsibility of a DUI. On your second DUI you would have been travelling FTS.*

Now having said that, have you looked into the active reserve (USAR or ARNG)? Except for my initial service, I always moved from a reserve unit assignment or IMA to the Active Army. An IRR assignment shows interest in the mission, but just barely.

* First Thing Smokin
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CW4 Craig Urban
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That DUI is going to hurt.
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