Under the First Sergeant Barracks Program, AR 420-1, is it allowed to move an SM to different barracks multiple times?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:42:36 -0400

I am learning about the FSBP and had a few questions. Is there anywhere in black and white that states you cant move a SM for convenience? We are coming back from a deployment and they are placing four SM in a different barracks in a different footprint because ours are at capacity, but they stated that in two months they should have room and will immediately move the SM back over. I believe that is a question of QOL(quality of life), the Soldiers do not mind the other barracks as they are nicer, and would prefer to stay over there. I have dove in to AR 420-1 and cannot seem to get a clear answer on it, any help?

Response by CSM Chuck Stafford made Oct 22 at 2020 1:48 PM

CSM Chuck Stafford — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:48:25 -0400

I believe you answered your question when you said the barracks were at capacity -- good luck

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Oct 22 at 2020 2:21 PM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:21:10 -0400

This type of thing happens before and after deployments. When you have so many bodies shuffling it takes a little time to get things orderly as intended. If the barracks are at capacity there aren't many options. Being moved into a permanent barracks after two months isn't really a QOL issue unless there is a health or safety issue some where in there like mold.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2020 3:56 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:56:08 -0400

In Korea, specifically Camp Humphreys, units try to keep their Soldiers in the same barracks, and for smaller units, on the same floor. This makes locating people easier, as well as such things as assigning barracks/floor clean-up rosters, Floor Sergeant responsibilities, etc. Having each unit in a separate barracks can also lead to having pride in where you live, which can lead to cleaner and better maintained barracks.

Don't fight this. This is not the hill to die upon.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Oct 22 at 2020 4:12 PM

MAJ Javier Rivera — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:12:40 -0400

I’ll be succinct:

Can they move you? Yes. Will they do it for pleasure? No.

Leadership manage barracks space and personnel assigned to them according to capacity, health and welfare, and operational conditions; e.g. deploying, redeploying, etc... The fact that you like a building more than other will never be taken in consideration.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Oct 22 at 2020 5:07 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:07:24 -0400

1. Yes they can move you if they need to. 2. You say your barracks at full, so what do they do- put them in tents on the quad? 3. QOL is not an service problem as long as billets are clean, free of mold/health issues. Hell be glad you don't have any WWII/Korea barracks around. 4. Is it inconvenient- yes, but it is a short term solution to the problem. 5. If you are smart you do not ever try to tell a ISG how to run his barracks, unless you are a really lofe being the problem child.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2020 5:32 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:32:51 -0400

Yup they sure can...coming back from a deployment I moved 3 times in 4 months. Don't take it out in the barracks Managers most of the time they are dealing with entirely different units to help house soldiers.