Posted on Jun 14, 2014
LTC Yinon Weiss
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If this story is true, it looks like a very tough situation for a couple of hundred US DoD contractors under siege in Balad.

I think a lot of people expected the Iraqi Army to have challenges, but it seems they just drop their weapons and run away at the first sign of any conflict. Even untrained people would be expected to put up a better defense.

http://www.special-ops.org/200-u-s-contractors-surrounded-jihadists-iraq/
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LTC Yinon Weiss
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I just hope there is no scene in Baghdad like this image (fall of Saigon at end of Vietnam War).

As each former US military strong is being overrun and looted, I can't help but to think of every American that served there, and those that never came back.

I also think of our positions in Afghanistan, and what will happen to them.
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This is a very sad photo because most of these civilians are doomed.

"Evacuation of a few civilian personnel by CIA / Air America helicopter on the rooftop of 22 Gia Long Street in Saigon on April 29, 1975. Photo by Hubert van Es. The picture was taken a day before the Fall of Saigon."

"I could see 20 or 30 people on the roof, climbing the ladder to an Air America Huey helicopter. At the top of the ladder stood an American in civilian clothes, pulling people up and shoving them inside. Of course, there was no possibility that all the people on the roof could get into the helicopter, and it took off with 12 or 14 on board. (The recommended maximum for that model was eight.) Those left on the roof waited for hours, hoping for more helicopters to arrive. To no avail. The enemy was closing in. I remember looking up to the sky and giving a short prayer."

We can't keep leaving contractors, employees and families behind.

To say we can't evacuate as it sends wrong message is untenable.
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We sure seem to keep making the sme mistakes--Over and Over and Over...
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It actually makes me proud to know that while the Iraqi Army may have ran quickly, it didn't take much for our American good 'ol boys to pick up weapons and get ready to fight.

I understand these contractors knew the risk they signed up for but we can't leave our own behind. Which one of you service members can honestly say you wouldn't risk your life to save our fellow Americans from the same enemy who stole the lives of so many of our young brothers and sisters in arms?
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SGT Mullet. I deeply admire your can do gung ho attitude. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I may ever be able to be of assistance to you. I mean this most sincerely. Warmest Regards, Sandy
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Thank you Ms. Annala, I appreciate that.

Mr. Weber, keep up the good work! And yeah, the APPF aren't the best. Crony-capitalism at it's best. Just another State run PMC that I'm not impressed with.
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I would like to thank everyone here for their individual responses they were extremely revealing into the dynamics of the US Army. I would like to announce that everyone here has just unwittingly participated in a social experiment. Had I announced this in the first place the responses I would have recieved would have been biased and therefore unusable. I have a buddy in need of material for a psychology paper and everyone here has provided content for it. Oddly the original hypothesis was that everyone would be outraged and defend SGT Mullet due to the group dynamics that the US military instills in us. However the fact that I had 2 thumbs up responses was disturbing and revealing at the same time. Finally I would like to thank and apologize to SGT Mullet I hope I didnt offend you too bad and was thouroughly impressed by your response the level of candor you showed says alot about what kind of leader you are. I would like to apologize to everyone and really hope this dude gets an "A" on his paper.
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No hurt feelings here SFC Messick. All in the name of science, hooah!
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All,

As of this morning, it appears that the contractors were being evacuated by the Iraqi Air Force/

http://www.special-ops.org/iraqi-air-force-evacuating-besieged-u-s-contractors/
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This is good news. The article suggests 300 out of 400 contractors have been evacuated by the Iraqi AF. It is sad news from alternate perspective of US military effort to preserve US citizen lives. The only thing I come up with is perhaps the US NCA does not want to US forces to engage ISIS directly to avoid perception of infidels fighting the jihad.
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not all of them.....
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