Veterans Day Entitlement?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 13:46:37 -0500

This morning I decided to take my family out to breakfast for Veterans Day. Locally, many restaurants offer discounts or even free entrees to veterans in honor of their service. Near my home is an IHOP so I went online to check for any Veterans Day discount on their Facebook page. I didn't find any advertised Veterans Day deals, but what I did find was discouraging.

Hundreds of people were complaining that IHOP was disrespecting veterans because they were not offering a Veterans Day discount. Over and over I read some variation on pledges to never eating at IHOP again, claims of un-American or unpatriotic behavior on IHOP's part, or calls for boycotting them. This is all aside from the fact that most IHOPs  offer a 10% discount to military everyday of the year.

To me it all seemed like a whole lot of unprofessional entitlement whining from people claiming to be veterans. I am ashamed that fellow veterans could act so childish. It makes me feel honored when I am recognized for my service, but I joined an all volunteer Army and I don't feel anyone owes me anything extra. The attitude of entitlement does not look good in uniform and ruins the gratitude the public shows us on a regular basis.

So what are your thoughts? Should veterans feel disrespected because they are not offered free or discounted meals for their service?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2013 2:12 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:12:48 -0500

If a business wants to offer military discounts or special deals on Veteran's Day that is their decision; it is certainly not an entitlement to those who have worn the uniform.  If they want to do so, great.  If they don't, fine too.  It doesn't make them un-American or anti-military.<div><br></div><div>I am bothered by any sense of entitlement especially when it comes from those who are supposed to model selfless service.  I deserve a free meal?  I deserve 10% off?  Absolutely not!  I chose to serve my country in this way ... no one should feel obligated to serve me because of that.<div><br></div><div>An excellent opinion piece was recently published by The Atlantic about this topic.  It addresses this idea that we are somehow better than those who have not served and should be treated special for the rest of our lives.  The conclusion of the piece is worded well: "Veterans Day can become a time when we look forward - and not simply take nostalgic glances into the past, where we foolishly see ourselves as having been the best we'll ever be."  I would add: nor should it be a day where we expect free stuff and everyone we meet to bow down before us in thanks and admiration.</div></div><div class="pta-link-card"><div class="pta-link-card-picture"><img src="http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/newsroom/img/mt/2013/11/veteranlarge/lead_large.jpg?mw3sq7"></div><div class="pta-link-card-content"><div class="pta-link-card-title"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/11/help-veterans-by-taking-them-off-the-pedestal/281316/">Help Veterans by Taking Them Off the Pedestal</a></div><div class="pta-link-card-description">A former infantryman in Iraq reflects on how the culture of military service has changed since World War II. Unhelpful attitudes from civilians and veterans alike, he says, are making it difficult for...</div></div><div style="clear:both"></div><div class="pta-box-hide"><i class="icon-remove"></i></div></div>

Response by 1SG Steven Stankovich made Nov 11 at 2013 2:57 PM

1SG Steven Stankovich — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:57:40 -0500

<p>I believe that if a business wants to offer a discount or a free service to veterans or military personnel, then that is the decision of that business owner.  If that is something that provides that business owner with a sense of service to our nation or its defenders, then that is fine.  </p><p> </p><p>If we as service members or veterans "expect" that sort of service, that is very disheartening.  I know many people who wear or have worn the uniform who like myself, are a little embarrassed with discounts or free meals.  It falls under the same category with me as folks saying "thanks" on Veterans Day.</p><p> </p><p>I would suggest that we just say "thank you" for whatever discount is there, provide a great tip, and move out.  </p>

Response by Cpl Ray Fernandez made Nov 11 at 2013 4:16 PM

Cpl Ray Fernandez — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:16:01 -0500

I have a hard time when it comes to discounts. I worked in telecomm sales in the past and I'd find every way possible to save my customer's money, like where they work (AT&T offers about 15% off the monthly bill on a cell phone for all Government employees). I would go to nearby businesses that I had helped in the past like tire shops and restaurants, I didn't like accepting discounts because I felt it put me in an uncomfortable position where I did someone a favor in the past and then the next time there was a problem that I couldn't fix they would feel like I took advantage of their generosity.

I take a cautious attitude with Veteran's Day discounts too. Restaurants suddenly have tons of veterans and they limit the selection of free food to a specific menu. I rather go eat some place quiet that treats me well and serves good food regardless of what day it is. It feels odd to do a job and get free stuff because of it, we aren't conquerors we serve to protect our way of life. I would be more pleased to see those businesses offering free food and discounts offer veterans of all years employment opportunities since even now the unemployment rate among veterans is higher than the national average.

Response by SrA Joshua Faust made Nov 11 at 2013 6:28 PM

SrA Joshua Faust — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:28:37 -0500

I see where you're coming from and I think you are completely right. There is a major sense of entitlement from military veterans. I see it all the time! I see it at my place of employment (VA), I recently saw it in the real-estate market after 3 agents denied working with our family due to very negative experiences from VA Loan/Military members, and of course, during Veterans day.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2013 6:32 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:32:17 -0500

Unfortunately our country for the most part has lost the meaning of being thankful. I was raised to believe that nothing is  just given, it is earned. If it is not given then it has not been earned. That being said I was also taught that if anything was given and not earned you are to count it as a blessing and be thankful rather than expectant. Somehow this country has been led to believe that breathing gives you rights to privileges and they trade their rights for these privileges. It saddens me to see that this sort of ungrateful attitude or spoiled attitude has reached even those in the uniformed services. I pray there are enough of us wearing the uniform to uphold the honor that those who came before worked hard to earn. 

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2013 7:24 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:24:11 -0500

I appreciate the act, however this does not mean I'm entitled to a discount. I didn't join the Military for 10% off. I joined because I felt an obligation to my country. I find it extremely discouraging when I hear Soldiers or evan spouses complaining about not receiving a discount. I look at Veterans day in many lights. One, it's good business. Two, it still shows that their are people who care. Three, this day isn't about free food or discounts, its about sacrifice. It's about honoring those sacrifices.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 20 at 2014 10:18 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:18:26 -0400

We all volunteered to join, what we did isn’t unpaid volunteer work and guess what, we shouldn’t expect a discount or a free ride and walk around like we should be entitled. We have all been compensated for signing on the dotted line in one way or another. Another thing, you shouldn’t go brow-beating civilians into giving you something. Its because of their generosity any one of us even get something. In my opinion, that generosity is wearing thin. You shouldn’t accuse people of being weak or afraid for not making the same choices that you did, remember you volunteered. Veterans benefits and retirement pay, that's what you're entitled to, that's it (i'm not listing every benefit for sake of space). We’re not all heroes and the sooner we stop expecting to be treated like them, the sooner we’ll stop embarrassing ourselves.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 5 at 2014 6:39 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Mon, 05 May 2014 18:39:44 -0400

I am not entitled to anything but if they offer I don't say no. Usually on Veterans Day I go to Hy Vee for the Free Breakfast and to hand out Buddy Poppies. Also Applebees has a Great Free Dinner for me. One of the Car Wash companys does free car washes on Veterans Day. That is plenty for me.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2014 2:20 AM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 02:20:45 -0500

Here is how I see it: A lot of times the people I here complaining about not getting a free meal are junior personnel. Not to say it is always that way, but it is a majority. I used to ask the guys I was on the boat with what made them think that they deserved to complain about a company not giving free are deeply discounted items. Most of them would say it was because they earned the right due to being in the military. I think once it was explained to them that most civilians who did not previously serve saw them in a bad light for thinking they were owed something put it into perspective for them. Personally, I will not tell someone I am in the military because I do not feel that I deserve any more special treatment than anyone else who comes in. Especially as someone who has not been through any true hell in my time. The people who should get it are those who have been permanently disabled bin some way during their time in war. Is it nice to save some money on a large purchase? Sure, but I generally do not see the point in spending a ton of money just to save a little more.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2014 10:58 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 22:58:23 -0500

I for one don't go out of my way to get a free meal on Veteran's Day, if I happen to eat out that day and the restaurant offer a free meal or discount then I'll take it. I tend not to eat out on V day because I assume those places would be packed.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2014 11:00 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 23:00:50 -0500

I don't think we should expect freebie just because its Veterans Day

Response by PO2 Jonathan Scharff made Nov 16 at 2014 11:22 PM

PO2 Jonathan Scharff — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 23:22:47 -0500

I have never used any VA benefit and I have never accepted any discount for being a vet. I am fortunately healthy and hard working. Arn't there a lot of vets that are homeless and/or out of work? Shouldn't we be focused on getting them food and shelter and a job? I am honored to have served and honored to help any brother/sister vet out if I can. That's what we should all be thinking about every day, and not just on Veterans Day.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2014 6:29 AM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:29:31 -0500

That's why I don't do places like that for vets day. It's cool some places offer it but I don't think we should feel a sense of entitlement about it. I am happy knowing I can go to my Home Depot year round and get a vets/active duty discount on stuff I may need. Much more useful to me. Besides its up to the individual businesses what they wish to extend.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2014 12:11 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:11:23 -0500

If you signed up for the service because of the "discounts" and the "perks," you are serving for the wrong reasons. There are few instances in which I would even ask for a discount, or embrace the offerings from certain companies.

Response by MSgt Bj Jones made Dec 6 at 2014 8:56 PM

MSgt Bj Jones — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:56:05 -0500

It's pathetic when folks jump on the "they don't support Veterans" bandwagon over something trivial such as lack of discounts and freebies. Remember how Starbucks was accused of not supporting the Armed Forces? In actuality, the CEO of Starbucks is a huge supporter, and Starbucks gives a free cup of coffee to Veterans and Service Members on Veterans' Day. Starbucks also gives hiring preference to Veterans. What some folks forget is, the businesses who don't give discounts or freebies are often the ones giving loads of money, materials, and volunteers to various military needs, such as prosthetic limbs for Soldiers who lost legs and arms. Just because they may not discount nor give a free meal does not mean they don't support their service members and Veterans.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2015 9:41 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:41:56 -0500

While getting free things on Veteran's Day is nice, it is not required for a business to do so. I think that most places I have been have so many businesses giving away free or discounted meals/items that I feel really honored. So what if one restaurant doesn't participate, take pride in the fact that so many others do. Also, like you pointed out IHOP for example gives a military discount everyday of the year. To me that means they don't care if it is Veteran's Day or not they just like to serve the military.

Response by PO3 Ricky Foster made Nov 11 at 2016 1:27 PM

PO3 Ricky Foster — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:27:14 -0500

We did not serve to get discounts, nuff said!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2016 2:20 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 14:20:58 -0500

You are not owed anything but what your respective service promised you and that The U.S. Constitution guarantees. Preferably I would rather those discounts go to homeless vet shelters.

Response by SPC Phil Norton made Nov 11 at 2016 4:22 PM

SPC Phil Norton — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 16:22:26 -0500

I always ask if a discount is available. I never expect one, and I have been surprised by how many places offer discounts. In this life nobody owes anybody a dang thing to many people have forgotten this. Be thankful for those that give. And if you think you are owed something from a private business, seek counseling. You have reality issues..

Response by SPC Jeffrey Reese made Nov 11 at 2016 4:27 PM

SPC Jeffrey Reese — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 16:27:43 -0500

I rarely mention that I am a Veteran. When asked I do state that I am a veteran and some times I will mention I am a service connected disabled Veteran. For my part I went in and did my job, it wasn't for praise or for a slap on the back it was to follow a tradition of service and to fulfill a duty to my country I felt we all owe. The only thing I have ever expected from my time in service was what I was promised when I enlisted nothing more and nothing less. I't isn't that I am ashamed of my time in service far from it, it is just that I did my time in service for my beliefs and what I felt is right not to boast to others or for free meals once a year. The only reason I don't think that my service is to be a banner announcement there are to many hero's not coming home to get their slap on the back or free meals or discounts. When they personally get theirs I will be happy to talk more freely about what I might get.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2016 6:36 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:36:06 -0500

Discounts are nice when given, but I never ask for them.

I agree that some act as if they are owed. I think they make us look bad.

Response by SSG Shavonde Chase made Nov 11 at 2016 6:53 PM

SSG Shavonde Chase — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:53:59 -0500

I went out to lunch because I craved Sizzling Rice Soup. I asked if there were any specials and the waitress replied, Sorry ma'am we don't have any. This is a small family owned business so giving away food might not be feasible. I had the choice to stay or leave. I stayed because it is because of those before me that I can even have the opportunity to sit inside to eat my meal. I am a veteran but I have only done my job. True heroes have died for a cause and other have lost body parts or their mind in the name of what they think is right.

Response by SFC George Smith made Nov 11 at 2016 8:13 PM

SFC George Smith — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:13:22 -0500

interesting

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Nov 11 at 2016 8:52 PM

SGM Mikel Dawson — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:52:12 -0500

If they do, they do, if they don't they don't. We volunteered and did our duty. Nothing said we should get a free meal once a year. Here where I live, there is no free meals. Happy Veterans Day to all. Me, on Veterans day I am humpin it home from vacation.

Response by PO3 Christopher Jonah Nelson made Nov 11 at 2016 10:45 PM

PO3 Christopher Jonah Nelson — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 22:45:44 -0500

I'll go and eat at restaurants that offer discounts; the establishments don't do it only to thank veterans, although that is usually a consideration. Many veterans have family that they will take out to these restaurants, and it's a good way to drum up some business.

To respond to the original post, though, we should be going to establishments *willing* to pay full price, *grateful* for the reduced (or free) services, and *aware* of the company's policies.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Nov 11 at 2016 11:15 PM

CAPT Kevin B. — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 23:15:29 -0500

I frequently forget to ask if there's a discount. Got used to Home Depot and others. I remember Olive Garden did a meal. Today I went to our Memorial Park where a new set of flagpoles was being dedicated. Nice event. Cold out. One of two days a year I wear my cover. Went to lunch after at our local brew pub. Seems I couldn't pay because someone else picked up my tab and already left. Humbling. However I do recall an interesting one last year that didn't come out right:

Response by CW2 Ernest Krutzsch made Nov 12 at 2016 1:02 AM

CW2 Ernest Krutzsch — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 01:02:13 -0500

I would respond by saying i will support any food establishment that does not serve MRE's at any price..Get over yourself, you are not as Special as you think you are. I am sometimes embarrassed when people tell me thanks for your service, It was my choice, I loved most of it,(Some sucked). I was a Special Agent in Counterintelligence. I had the opportunity to train Special Agents in Counterintelligence..The only thing that made you special was the trust that the government put in you, You were not special, the mission was! So, go and flash your Vet creds, (Oh, and from experience, most of you hated it), but take advantage. After 11 years in the Infantry, a hot meal at any price is a bargain Happy Veteran's Day

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Nov 12 at 2016 7:13 AM

SGM Erik Marquez — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 07:13:22 -0500

Pardon my limited morel values and crude anolagy

I view vet day discounts or any mil discount like I did when I was younger and dating.... if the girl I was taking out wanted to have sex that night I was happy, if not, oh well move on and see what happens next time.... or next girl

I don't ask for discounts (I also don't change my social media profile pic on vet day so I can make sure folks are reminded to thank me) if a discount is offered I'll take it and say thank you, if not oh well I'm not owed anything.

@ssg aaron Sweeney SFC Private RallyPoint Member your not off on your observation and hard feelings on the topic

Response by TSgt Marco McDowell made Nov 12 at 2016 7:22 AM

TSgt Marco McDowell — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 07:22:15 -0500

What's ridiculous is that the folks working at the IHOP are making considerably less than the guys asking for a discount. If you need 3 bucks off of your pancakes, I seriously suggest you take a personal finance class or at least buy 2 fewer beers on the weekend.

Response by CPT John Sheridan made Nov 12 at 2016 8:39 AM

CPT John Sheridan — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 08:39:12 -0500

Yesterday, I went to my local diner and got my free breakfast. The most important reasons that I served were:

1. Free breakfast on Veterans Day,
2. Cheap beer at the VFW, and
3. Unwarrented adulation from people on Veterans Day and barbecue day in May.

(Since comments lack the context of tone of voice and facial expressions, I have inserted an irony alert in this parenthetical statement)

In all seriousness, I think it's really nice of the owner of my local diner, but I don't need a freebie to satisfy a sense of entitlement.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2016 9:06 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 09:06:41 -0500

If you complain about not getting offered a free meal then you missed the point.

Response by Maj Gen Del Eulberg made Nov 12 at 2016 9:27 AM

Maj Gen Del Eulberg — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 09:27:55 -0500

Thank you for your thoughtful post. You are spot on. It is an honor to serve and wear our nation's uniform. We all served voluntarily and with pride because we made a difference. Complaining about the lack of "free meals" diminishes our service--as if we served for the pay and benefits--which I think we would all agree is not why we served.

Response by PO2 Robert Aitchison made Nov 12 at 2016 10:20 AM

PO2 Robert Aitchison — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 10:20:42 -0500

First, I have to admit I'm a bit triggered by the picture of the two soldiers sitting in a restaurant in their field uniform. That so would never have flown back in the day. ;)

I thought IHOP was on the list of restaurants offering free meals this year.

I actually ended up passing on any free meals yesterday, was going to get a free meal for Dinner but there was a 35 minute wait to get in (Red Robin was quite busy) so I went somewhere else and paid because my time is worth more than that.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2016 2:40 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 14:40:21 -0500

The IHOP in CO offered free pancakes from 0700-1900 yesterday, so I don't know what they are talking about.

Response by PO3 Chris Scheide made Nov 12 at 2016 7:52 PM

PO3 Chris Scheide — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 19:52:11 -0500

Never hurts to ask, but nothing to get bent about. I was checking out at Scheel's sporting goods in Reno, NV and asked if they had a veteran's discount. The clerk said that they did not but they did donate to some veteran's charities (she had a list). Honestly I liked that better (and told her so) than getting 2.5% off or whatever.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2016 11:23 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 23:23:51 -0500

Hell no! (Pardon my French). We are not entitled to anything. If offered, OK. I do not ask for or expect any special favors.

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Nov 14 at 2016 2:52 PM

CSM Richard StCyr — Mon, 14 Nov 2016 14:52:29 -0500

No, Businesses are in business to make a profit. Any discounts or free items offered are just plain nice of the folks who offer them. Of course nothing is ever really free, the companies hope to gain the follow on business of the veterans that they offer the discounts and free items to. Way too much sniveling over way too many things.

Response by PO3 Daniel Whitten made Nov 15 at 2016 5:50 AM

PO3 Daniel Whitten — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 05:50:05 -0500

Hunmmm IHOP does give free stack of pancakes on Veterans Day always has don't know why your didn't. Seems maybe story is just for a point???

Response by 1st Lt Peter Van Wolvelaerd made Nov 15 at 2016 6:27 AM

1st Lt Peter Van Wolvelaerd — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 06:27:50 -0500

I went to Olive Garden on Veterans Day. They offered a free entrée to all veterans I felt like I was surrounded by a band of brothers for dinner. It was a wonderful experience and a salute to Olive Garden.

Response by Scott Merritt made Nov 15 at 2016 6:53 AM

Scott Merritt — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 06:53:40 -0500

I was in the Marine Corps for a short period of time. I injured my knee which is why it was for such a short period. I never served a day over seas. Hell, I never got past boot camp down at Paris island. I went to a car dealer the other day and after the usual heggle and low ball games, they finally came back to me throwing the numbers I wanted , but I would only be eligible had I taken A military discounted which dropped $1000 off the original vehicle price. I refused to take the deal based on my being in the militaty(boot camp) because of what you have all gone through and do And what I have not done. They wound up giving me what I wanted but it wasn't because I took a military discount. Thank you for your service.

Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Nov 15 at 2016 7:08 AM

SPC Kevin Ford — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:08:06 -0500

If it is expected that everyone does it, then those that do are no longer doing something to thank veterans, they are doing it because they have to. Not only does that feel wrong but I believe it cheapens Veterans Day.

Response by LTC Andrew Addison made Nov 15 at 2016 7:11 AM

LTC Andrew Addison — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:11:32 -0500

First off, I would not complain and this displays a lack of class and a character flaw. However, we are free to complain about anything we want so I would not get upset about people voicing their opinion. The election is a good example of people complaining even though it is their right as "US Citizens". As far as businesses that offer V Day meals I actually took advantage of this and I called the business prior to going there and there was no misunderstanding about the meal and definitely no complaining on my end. Some veterans are offended that we get a free meal and others are appreciative of getting a free meal from a business that is showing their gratitude for the sacrifices that we make/made. So, for the ones that complain I would say get over it already and grow up and stop acting a fool.

Response by SSG Roger Houle made Nov 15 at 2016 7:14 AM

SSG Roger Houle — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:14:45 -0500

I do not look for nor do I expect anything for my service but normal respect I give everyone else I come in contact with !
Engineers Lead The Way !!

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 7:19 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:19:25 -0500

SFC Private RallyPoint Member all across America we have people "entitled" to free health care, free college, free cable TV, free cell phone, and so on.

A free meal on Veterans Day is a "Thank You", not an entitlement. No one should be required to thank anyone else for anything. It's not a "Thank You" if it is forced.

I got one at Applebees, and by the time I paid for my wife, and left a generous tip, I was out about the same amount of money anyway. But that's OK, because it wasn't about a free meal or the cost; it was about a "Thank You" that I appreciated receiving.

Response by CPO Bill Penrod made Nov 15 at 2016 7:26 AM

CPO Bill Penrod — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:26:27 -0500

Many establishments offer vets a discount from a slice of pie to a whole meal on Veterans Day. Some offer nothing. Next year go to a restaurant that gives free stuff. I have thick skin so it takes more than not getting free pancakes to disrepect me.

Response by LTJG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 7:27 AM

LTJG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:27:44 -0500

It's up to the business if you ask me. Sure we sacrifice a lot, but I also don't need everything handed to me as thanks for doing what I chose to do. It's not like we're being drafted into military service.

To the businesses that offer veterans benefits for patronizing their establishments, thank you. For the businesses that don't, that's fine too!

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Nov 15 at 2016 7:38 AM

MAJ Ronnie Reams — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:38:31 -0500

It has been my observation that today's military does not think of service as a duty, but rather a job that has perks. I think this is because of the give me, give me generations. It was much better when military service was something everyone did and thought it no big deal. Being thought of as a job probably is why it is not much fun anymore and everyone is over regulated.

Response by AN Pete Landon made Nov 15 at 2016 7:40 AM

AN Pete Landon — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:40:36 -0500

Hell no,did any if you join the service to get a free or discounted meal.I dont think so,at least I hope not.

Response by SGT Todd Miller made Nov 15 at 2016 7:41 AM

SGT Todd Miller — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:41:30 -0500

I was in the military 12 years, which is a short time now that I look back. I've been an engineer for 22 years. I cannot remember ever getting something that I didn't work for, except a little recognition from time to time at church or social settings and a great credit card interest rate through the American Legion. The only benefit I used was VEAP and I earned that every single day.

Response by SFC Charles Kauffman made Nov 15 at 2016 7:45 AM

SFC Charles Kauffman — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:45:09 -0500

Absolutely not. No enlistment contract I ever signed in 27 years ever stated ANYTHING about a free meal or discount, nor any other form of recognition. Sit in a corner, order your meal, pay your bill, leave a healthy tip, and STFU.

Response by SFC John Mikelson made Nov 15 at 2016 7:46 AM

SFC John Mikelson — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:46:20 -0500

Hard to force a thank you. Seems to run contrary to why we serve. If you do find a free meal, don't forget to tip (big). Thanks is a two way street

Response by SSgt Scott Walters made Nov 15 at 2016 7:54 AM

SSgt Scott Walters — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:54:49 -0500

Personally, I never ask for the veteran's discount. If they ask me if I'm military, I tell them. Like many others on this site, I'm not out for a free meal. I don't like it when folks make a big deal about my service, because there are many a great many who gave so much more than I did.

Response by PO1 Keith Calhoun made Nov 15 at 2016 8:16 AM

PO1 Keith Calhoun — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:16:57 -0500

You are so right on . I really don't care for people to thank me for my service. The only reply I can come up with is " My pleasure " I don't go out to get freebees I rather pay my way. No body owes me anything.

Response by CPL Joseph Wightman made Nov 15 at 2016 8:40 AM

CPL Joseph Wightman — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:40:11 -0500

You are right. It was my honor to serve my country. Nobody owes me anything and I don't want anything from them unless they offer. They never know what I'm talking about anyway. I've heard a mast wife of s service member cuss at a hostess because they didn't have military discounts once and I was ashamed. We are better than that.

Response by Col Bill Marrs made Nov 15 at 2016 8:41 AM

Col Bill Marrs — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:41:11 -0500

I agree 100% with the original post. I do take advantage of discounts when they are available, particularly at one or more hardware stores. The dining may be a bigger attraction for socializing with fellow veterans at some point in the future. In any case, though, I am thankful to all the people who are paying more for their products to make my discounts possible - just as my neighbor's taxes rise when my pay increases.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 8:50 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:50:53 -0500

I do not go out for a free meal on veterans day for this reason. I don't really want free or reduced price stuff from the general public for doing something I am happy and proud to do.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Nov 15 at 2016 8:53 AM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:53:31 -0500

Agree with all the comments that a business can do whatever it wants to honor any particular group it wants. Yes, we are veterans but that doesn't automatically entitle us to any special treatment or mandate perks on Veterans or Memorial Days. I think the whole attitude of Americans has become one that because we are, or have, something we are entitled to something else. Think rewards programs for all sorts of things from credit cards to frequenting particular establishments; it's expected that you get something for "free". The true meaning of days like Veterans Day is to remember those who have served, not to see how many freebies you can get.

Response by PO2 Ben Ferguson made Nov 15 at 2016 9:20 AM

PO2 Ben Ferguson — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:20:25 -0500

I shopped at a Home Depot near me for years and didn't know or ask for a Veteran's Discount until 1 day while checking out the cashier asked "Are you a Veteran?" When I said yes I was told I'm eligible for a discount. When I inquired when that started was told it's always been their policy. I suppose it was my age (entered service 1956) was her clue. I put my things in the car, returned to the store, and asked for the manager. She finally showed up about 15 minutes later and I told her "thank you" then took her to show which cashier had asked if I were a vet. As I was leaving the store I went by the register again and said "thank you."
The vets who complained learned little about service to country that has given them so much. Suck it up snowflakes we didn't serve in order to get a discount at IHOP...or any other business establishment.

Response by TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn made Nov 15 at 2016 9:31 AM

TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:31:01 -0500

You nailed it!!

Response by SFC David Davenport made Nov 15 at 2016 9:36 AM

SFC David Davenport — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:36:57 -0500

Generally I agree with you. I don't expect anything extra just because I served in the military. If they want to offer me something that is fine but it should not be expected.

Response by SSG Gerald King made Nov 15 at 2016 9:39 AM

SSG Gerald King — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:39:56 -0500

I don't know where you live, but the IHOP's here in Phoenix were offering Free meals to Vets. And there were about another 50 or more local establishments that were offering special deals to vets.

Response by PO2 Robert Foster made Nov 15 at 2016 9:47 AM

PO2 Robert Foster — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:47:30 -0500

I personaly do not like it when people point me out as a veteran, I served my country proudly and expect nothing in return

Response by PO3 John Priest made Nov 15 at 2016 9:48 AM

PO3 John Priest — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:48:40 -0500

While I think it's nice of companies to go out of their way to offer Veteran/Service member discounts and free stuff, it still has to be paid for somewhere down the line...

I too volunteered and gave almost 6 years of my life for my country, but outside of what the VA offers, I'm not entitled to anything, nor do I expect anything for being a veteran, period.

Response by PO2 David D'Amore made Nov 15 at 2016 9:53 AM

PO2 David D'Amore — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:53:54 -0500

It is a companies decision to offer a Veterans Day deal. It is or isn't in my opinion a deciding factor in whether or not I will patronize the facility. However good customer service and quality selections on the menu will. Having said that I have been a veteran for a long time and remember when you got not offers anywhere. One last note I don't go out for those "specials" anymore since I know personally of people that never served and somehow managed to get a VFW or American Legion card and use them to get these deals. Val posers are rampant and it is sad.

Response by CPO Earl Jones made Nov 15 at 2016 9:55 AM

CPO Earl Jones — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:55:26 -0500

I stay away from eating out on Veteran day, too much of a line and waiting time. A restaurant is not being unamerican because they don't give free meals away on Veterans Day. That's the companies choice. I don't think that before 9/11 it was ever done.

Response by MSgt Dave Burke made Nov 15 at 2016 9:58 AM

MSgt Dave Burke — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:58:26 -0500

No. We did our service because we wanted to do it! No one owes us anything for taking on the responsibilities and risks we took on. The force is all volunteer now and everyone in uniform is their by their own choice. NOW - if or when the draft comes back on things will be different. If someone is forced to go military it is a different story.

I did my 20+ years because I wanted to do them. I am honored by being allowed to do them and except for treatment for my service connected disabilities the nation owes me nothing.

Response by TSgt Michael Von Wert made Nov 15 at 2016 10:10 AM

TSgt Michael Von Wert — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:10:27 -0500

I'm a retired, Disabled Combat Veteran having retired in '96. To this day I have NOT gone to any of the places offering free Veteran's Day meals. And there are a lot that do. It almost feels like I would be begging, either for a "freebie" or recognition. Neither of which my life depends on, nor does my ego need. But that's just me.

On the other hand I do frequent businesses which offer a military discount. I choose to give them my business, and they choose to give me a discount, while still making a profit off of me. It's not a "freebie". And because I frequent these businesses, many times I'm recognized and they automatically ring up my discount without me having to ask for it. I also seem to get better service in these businesses.

A business that disrespects the military or dishonors our service in some way needs to be boycotted. But I don't think I'll ever see the day that I boycott a business because they didn't give me something that they are NOT required to.

Response by SrA Chris Hunt made Nov 15 at 2016 10:14 AM

SrA Chris Hunt — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:14:15 -0500

I agree with everything that you said. My only issue with everything is the hoops that some businesses require veterans to jump through when they do offer a discount. For several of our veterans, if they don't have any service connected disabilities, the only proof they have is their DD214 and many businesses don't recognize that as valid ID. At some point there needs to be a veteran card issued that will be accepted everywhere. I have witnessed many times where war veterans are turned down due to this.

Response by PO3 Sidney Gaertner made Nov 15 at 2016 10:18 AM

PO3 Sidney Gaertner — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:18:03 -0500

It's not a written rule that means you get free or just kind of meals at places we frequent to eat. Veterans are making a fuss about a restaurant not giving them a free meal on Veterans Day and they do not read truly understand what it means to be a veteran. I am a veteran I do not actively look for discounts I get from stores. I do however ask when I'm in a town where military is prevalent because I know I can usually get a discount but showing my VA card. besides if every veteran went to a restaurant and asked for a free meal how would that restaurant make any money and pay for it employees, its building, taxes and afford more food to sell to its customers. I for one did not join the military to get a free meal whenever I feel like getting one.

Response by CPL Shane Lafferty made Nov 15 at 2016 10:24 AM

CPL Shane Lafferty — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:24:54 -0500

no we are not entitled to free stuff just because we served or are currently serving being given something is a bonus for protecting our home, loved ones and our country but it is not to be expected to get anything back but a thank you for serving is always nice and welcome.

Response by SPC Anna Larson made Nov 15 at 2016 10:31 AM

SPC Anna Larson — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:31:56 -0500

I don't normally go out on veterans day in search of a free meal. In fact this year was the first time I ever actually went into a restaurant on Veterans day, however there were extenuating circumstances. We were more than 100 miles from home having just taken two horses to the vet and driven 2 hours without breakfast. We were hungry and to be honest we almost forgot about the "free" meal until we got to the restaurant in the town only to see all the vets waiting around. My opinion is it's not an "entitlement" its a gift from the company and veterans should treat it as such and say thank you. We left the server a big tip when we left, and he was kind of shocked that we would do that.

Response by Claudio Alpaca made Nov 15 at 2016 10:34 AM

Claudio Alpaca — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:34:10 -0500

veterans day should not be a mercification of our service, but a day for remember what veterans have do and what continue to make with their life and their moral teaching. Discounts should be only a corollary but never become the reason for we fest veterans day, as what count is tribute honors to veterans and appreciate them.veterans, to be appreciate for their life, to be honored for their sacrifices, to be admired for what are teaching. That we sould, that we consider veterans day is.

Response by LT Michael Watson made Nov 15 at 2016 10:39 AM

LT Michael Watson — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:39:05 -0500

The companies that offer it are doing so just out of respect, so any deals that are there are not an entitlement. And having read about numerous instances where a veterans status was questioned, it makes me wonder if we really do need to have a national movement to have a separate ID card for all veterans regardless of whether they are eligible to receive benefits or not.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 10:40 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:40:35 -0500

I'm just pointing out that IHOP in my area did offer a free "Red, White, and Blue" pancake meal for Veterans Day. Thank you IHOP. I too am thankful for the offers but don't think I'm entitled to them. In fact, I did participate in one and actually felt guilty about it. I'm a combat vet having served in Desert Storm and OIF. We lost soldiers, and here I am enjoying a free meal as if I'm the one to be thanked.

Response by SP5 Al Shanefelter made Nov 15 at 2016 10:41 AM

SP5 Al Shanefelter — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:41:00 -0500

Never

Response by BG Jim Drago made Nov 15 at 2016 10:44 AM

BG Jim Drago — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:44:21 -0500

Whining about not receiving a discount is childish at best. Company's have ZERO requirements to provide this and we, as veterans, should feel no disappointment if they do not. Personally I feel if a company wants to honor vets, either offer the discount daily/365 or don't bother. Not sure about where you are, but here, that is the one day I would not even consider going to an Applebee's restaurant due to the long lines of service men and women clamoring for a free meal! One other thing, on any given day , ask if the store or restaurant offers discounts. The worse answer you will get is no. Sometimes I get a discount just for asking or find out it is their policy, just not advertised . J2 ancient

Response by CAPT Hiram Patterson made Nov 15 at 2016 10:45 AM

CAPT Hiram Patterson — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:45:54 -0500

Not at all!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 10:49 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:49:28 -0500

IHOP did offer free pancakes so I do not know why you didn't find anything about them but to say a business is disrespectful because they do not offer free items to a certain segment of the population is just asinine.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 11:04 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:04:02 -0500

What bothers Me is that you are not a Veteran unless you have served full time or have been deployed . But people that are in the National guard and Reserves claim to be veterans when they are not.

Response by CWO2 Shelby DuBois made Nov 15 at 2016 11:08 AM

CWO2 Shelby DuBois — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:08:11 -0500

You are absolutely right...We had same thing last year when a Denny's didn't offer the same discount as another Denny's some miles away. The local VFW wanted a boycott. Where on your contract did it say you were entitled to freebies or discounts?

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 11:10 AM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:10:58 -0500

Discounts and freebies are not an entitlement. If a store offers a discount, they are honoring veterans. If a store does not offer a discount, It does not mean that business does not support the military/veterans they may do it in other ways. (donations to military charities). We need to get away from the entitlement mindset (you should receive freebies); serve your country and be proud that you do.

Response by PO1 Robert Johnson made Nov 15 at 2016 11:24 AM

PO1 Robert Johnson — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:24:33 -0500

What a business does or doesn't do for veterans on a specific day of the year, (Veterans Day) does not deserve to be judged by anyone other than themselves. As in the case of the IHOP corporation, the decisions to give discounts are made by the local franchise with certain exceptions. The Corporation sets certain standards and the franchise owner must agree to them or lose the franchise. IHOP Corporation gives Active duty and veterans a 10% discount every day so special discounts on Veterans Day is not required. I should mention that you may have to ask for the discount and be able to prove that you are a veteran.

Response by GySgt Randall Stufflebeam made Nov 15 at 2016 11:33 AM

GySgt Randall Stufflebeam — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:33:31 -0500

We live in an entitlement (you owe me) culture. As it is apparent that you understand, the only thing we are entitled to is "Opportunity." Everything else is earned.

Response by SPC Brian Mason made Nov 15 at 2016 11:42 AM

SPC Brian Mason — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:42:29 -0500

That's ridiculous. No company is obligated to offer any discounts to any one for any reason. As soldiers we shouldn't 'demand' these things and I know for a fact that some do. Seniors simply get discounts b/c they are lucky and old; that's it. Almost every time I'm in line for something, if it's offered, they go out of their way to mention they are a Senior. That's off topic so....
I go to places depending on a few things. If the offer is worth my time and money, i.e. gas spent. The IHOP closest to me is one exit down, about 15 minutes but was only giving a short stack (3) of pancakes with 'patriotic' fruit and toppings. Cost: around 3 1/2 dollars. It's been that way as far as I know and since I came back home in 2008.
Three places that did give something worth going. Red Robin: Free Tavern Burger and fries. Little Cesar's: $5.00 Hot N Ready Lunch box. Half of a thick deep dish pepperoni and free 16oz soda. Buffalo Wild Wings: 12 wings (boneless or bone-in) and small fries. All three gave enough for a full meal and thanked me. I also talked with a couple of people for a few minutes while waiting for my order.
Unless a business outright says they do not support the military, I don't have a problem. I do know Starbucks does NOT. Ex: On my first deployment, halfway in, the company I was Medic for wrote to them asking if they could somehow get a bunch of their coffee shipped over. They'd even find a way to pay for it all. Instead, they got a nice looking 'official' letter stating "We appreciate your business, however Starbucks does not support the military soldiers and this war." I WISH.......I had a copy of that letter. I'd still be throwing that in their faces.
There is no shame in asking. We earned it and have every right to use it to our benefit. Someone who disagrees can F off or go join themselves and learn what we go through.

Response by SPC Kari Grove Wright made Nov 15 at 2016 11:48 AM

SPC Kari Grove Wright — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:48:04 -0500

We ate out for the day. It was my husband's idea. We tipped a hefty tip and ordered items as well that were not free.
What caught us was a gentleman in a navy dress uniform, with a full beard. As, we walked by we noticed he was wearing Nike shoes with his uniform and beard. He was eating by himself at the bar. Now let me ask what you think of that?
I don't need a free meal or a discount. However, I support those that support us. If you offer a discount or a free meal, you have my business year round. I also tell my family members to support these businesses. I use to get tacos at taco bell, now I only go to del taco (they support the military and veterans) I tell my family to go to Baskin Robbins, as they sent us ice cream down range. (We don't have one where I live)
Now, the people that think they are entitled to a free meal, I disagree with. No one has to give you things!

Response by SFC Alvis Petrey made Nov 15 at 2016 12:06 PM

SFC Alvis Petrey — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 12:06:09 -0500

No they should not be offended. Let us grow up for christ's sake. Quit whinny-whinny over everything and grow up.

Response by PFC Josh Hills made Nov 15 at 2016 12:14 PM

PFC Josh Hills — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 12:14:30 -0500

It's great that businesses offer deals to recognize veterans. But no veteran should ever act entitled or that we are owed free stuff. Definitely should never cause a scene like that.

Thats just embarrassing. We veterans are volunteers to defend freedom, we made our own choice to join.

Response by SGT James Colwell made Nov 15 at 2016 12:16 PM

SGT James Colwell — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 12:16:54 -0500

Veterans are entitled to what is required by law that they receive. Being given preferential treatment by businesses is not an entitlement, but a bonus given to them by people who choose to do so but are not required to do. On the occasions that I am recognized for my service, I am humbled by that recognition, mainly because while I gave part of my life, there are others who served who gave so much more and some gave all. It is a privilege to be included in the group we call veterans. A free meal or a discounted meal is simply a bonus, nothing that I can or should demand.

Response by SrA Chris "Shadow" McGee made Nov 15 at 2016 12:19 PM

SrA Chris "Shadow" McGee — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 12:19:35 -0500

Ridiculous behavior. If a business wants to show thanks they will, but it is not mandatory. In fact, if I end up at a place offering a meal or discount great, but if not I don't care, as long as I spend the time with veteran friends and family, as I have done every year since I took my oath.

This is an old post from 3 years ago, so obviously the whiners got their way, as this year IHOP offered a free red, white and blue pancake stack to veterans for the day. It is time for all veterans to remember what they took the oath for, and what that oath means. It isn't about what you can get out of people, but what you can do for them.

Response by GySgt Randall Stufflebeam made Nov 15 at 2016 12:57 PM

GySgt Randall Stufflebeam — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 12:57:49 -0500

P.S.

One of the best out there is Chick-fil-A. Not only did they have a free meal for the veterans on veterans day, but the Chick-fil-A in Fairview Heights, IL, has a "Military Monday" were they give veterans a free chicken sandwich. Not an entitlement, but I appreciate their honor and respect of not only the veterans, but first responders as well. I am rarely there on a Monday, but I do frequent the place a lot because of their respect.

Response by SFC Raymond Davis made Nov 15 at 2016 1:23 PM

SFC Raymond Davis — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:23:14 -0500

I don,t try for free meals but when Im offerd one I usuley tip larger then normel

Response by SSG James Harlow made Nov 15 at 2016 1:42 PM

SSG James Harlow — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:42:51 -0500

You should never expect a discount. If the place you are eating or shopping offers one, take it and be thankful. I usually end up giving the 10% to the wait staff.
I don't even go out to eat on Veterans Day. I have seen to many Veterans that plan out their route to get as many free meals as possible. They save them up as left overs for the week.

Response by SGT Ronald Audas made Nov 15 at 2016 1:46 PM

SGT Ronald Audas — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:46:40 -0500

We`ve come a long way,baby.From the 60`s and 70`s where our mom and wife were the only ones to greet us,to the everybody gets a trophy mentality.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 2:51 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 14:51:22 -0500

No freaking way do people have the right to bitch about not getting a discount they *expect*. It just sounds like younglings disappointed they aren't getting something for free. If they aren't younglings, they sure sound like it, and I am ashamed of them too. Yeah, it's great receiving a discounted or free whatever from an establishment, but to expect it demeans any sort of benefit, and then to complain on facebook (or whatever), just makes that person sound greedy, ungrateful, and unbecoming. Yes you wore the uniform, but it doesn't entitle you to anything somebody doesn't want to gift to you.

Response by SFC Dennis D Joy made Nov 15 at 2016 2:55 PM

SFC Dennis D Joy — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 14:55:19 -0500

I agree, any business that provides a discount to veterans has already gone the extra mile. They don't have to provide free meals or discounts. If some is starting crap over a situation like this is completely wrong. I went to Applebee's on veterans day but had forgotten about their free linch. Lol It was not the best meal but it was good. And I tipped the cost of the meal. It wasn't requiem of them to provide me anything as it was not required to tip as I did.

Response by LCpl Frank Perez made Nov 15 at 2016 3:10 PM

LCpl Frank Perez — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:10:08 -0500

No if offered, if not then so be it. I am a veteran and proud of it I claim nor ask for anything in return. I respect all who have served and apreciate those who thank me . if I go to a place where there is no discount it doesn't mean my service is not appreciated it just means there is no discount. Remember veterans, you served for the love of country and family, not for perks and benefits.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 3:30 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:30:46 -0500

I put my right hand up and took the oath willingly and without reservation. I am proud to serve and I don't feel like I am entitled to special treatment from any business.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 3:46 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:46:16 -0500

Just proves there's "no such thing as a free lunch". If one accepts the meal then they are a mooch or think they are superior. Any Vet or active duty type that demands a meal or bitches about it gives the rest of us a bad name and like others here have said probably aren't the model we strive to be. Why don't they just take the million meals and give them to homeless or homeless Vets in the memory of those more fortunate? I've never participated in this or any other function that even gives an appearance that I feel I've done something that makes me "entitled". Nobody but me made the decision to serve and it was for my own reasons. I don't expect anything other than the shared bond with other Vets in return. I am, however getting a bit fed up with society second guessing every little thing and twisting things to fit their narrative or motive. Why can't people just take things at face value anymore and accept things without interpreting them to support their own purpose or agenda? It's getting old same as all the PC and bending over backwards so we don't offend someone; especially when we've done nothing wrong. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 3:52 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:52:54 -0500

Absolutely not! What we do is a SERVICE! We sacrifice. We fight. We sweat. We bleed. But at the end of it all, we look back and say we SERVED. Not we TRADED. If this job was a bargain for discounted meals, it would not have the sense of honor, duty, or integrity that it calls for. We are a volunteer force. Expecting ANYTHING in return for that, let alone demanding it, is absurd. The world doesn't owe you anything, and just because you put on a uniform does not mean you are entitled to anything more than any other citizen of this country. People like that irritate me to no end. I didn't join the Army for free or discounted meals, or discounts on cars, clothes or anything else. I joined to serve my country and to protect my people.

Apologies for the rant.

*Steps back off of soapbox*

Response by SSG Wayne Wood made Nov 15 at 2016 4:39 PM

SSG Wayne Wood — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:39:08 -0500

I've never gotten a free meal on Veterans Day because I don't like lines. I take advantage of the Veterans discount at Lowe's just wish I'd learned about it sooner. The Lowe's discount as far as my experience is concerned applies to ANY veteran who can prove honorable service - I'm 100% disabled and carry a DoD card so its never been a problem. My wife has used her card and no problem - I guess she's grandfathered under me (it helps me either way). I think the problem is the understanding of the policy and how it is implemented from place to place.

This year I was given a free bag of popcorn at the movie we attended. It was nice. I've taken advantage of discounts over the last ten years (since I've learned about them) - if folks want to show respect who am I to say "nay?"

I appreciate folks' appreciation and like I said - it sure beats being called a "baby killer." But I don't expect it. I can't say every day I served was kicks and giggles but it was an honor to serve; and maybe there was a grudging pride in the fact it was tough sometimes. Sometimes I think it is I who owe a debt of gratitude for the honor of wearing the uniform.

Response by LtCol Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 5:01 PM

LtCol Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:01:11 -0500

How childish can people be. Being a veteran does not equate to entitlement. We entitle...not receive entitlements.

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Nov 15 at 2016 5:44 PM

MSgt Wayne Morris — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:44:19 -0500

It appears that some AD and vets are feeling just as entitled anymore as some of the younger generation. If you get all upset because you didn't get a free, cheap meal because you serve or have served you signed up for all the wrong reasons. Get over yourselves and sense of entitlement and ruck up or you are as whiney as those you bitch about.

Response by PV2 Glen Lewis made Nov 15 at 2016 5:45 PM

PV2 Glen Lewis — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:45:46 -0500

I don't get why people think anybody owes them anything other than respect if they are respectful. I certainly don't believe any business owes me because I chose to join the Army. There are too many people thinking the world owes them nowadays.

Response by MSG Timothy Smith made Nov 15 at 2016 5:46 PM

MSG Timothy Smith — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:46:34 -0500

Gee, I hadn't realized. I went into the nearest one to me and got a free 3 stack with blue berries, strawberries and whipped cream. Guess the staff in Cleveland, TN didn't get that particular memo.

Response by SSgt Dwight Deatherage made Nov 15 at 2016 6:24 PM

SSgt Dwight Deatherage — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 18:24:05 -0500

You are correct. Only recently have we gotten any acknowledgment of our service.

Response by HN Kathleen M Peck made Nov 15 at 2016 7:09 PM

HN Kathleen M Peck — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:09:57 -0500

This is a hard one, but as a veteran I don't feel disrespected at not receiving a free meal (btw my son agrees, a Veteran, 10 yrs Army with 2 yrs in Iraq). To receive a 10% military discount every day is pretty nice and should be enough. Where do these people get this feeling of entitlement, they volunteered, did their job and got out. I volunteered to enlist in the Navy, (Viet Nam Conflict) and felt honored to serve my country; I didn't expect a free meal then and I don't now. Personally, I think serving your country should be a source of pride, not entitlement; don't disrespect the uniform and what it stands for.

Response by Cpl John Mathews made Nov 15 at 2016 7:23 PM

Cpl John Mathews — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:23:28 -0500

It really surprised me to see ths post. The only things I feel entitled to are the benefits promised to me when I enlisted. For the most part, that means the benefits afforded me through the Department of Veterans Affairs (I'm VA rated 80%). I don't recall any business telling me that they would offer me discounts if/after I served my country.

Where I live IHOP did offer free pancakes, as did Dennys and several dozen other eateries. This year I went to Firebirds for lunch with my wife and had an excellent meal and I made sure to thank the server for the free lunch. In other years I have taken my dad (USAF/RET/100% VA rating) for a free meal. It s nice, especially for my Vietnam Vet father, to have people say thank you to him and have it be accompanied by something tangible (it makes the "thanks" seem more heart-felt).

Response by SPC Tim Stewart made Nov 15 at 2016 7:25 PM

SPC Tim Stewart — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:25:45 -0500

When I go out to eat or shopping I don't expect a discount or free items because I am a Vet. I don't go looking for free or discounted items. If they are offered I don't turn them down, I also feel honored that the business respects the Military and its Veterans.

Response by HN Kathleen M Peck made Nov 15 at 2016 7:44 PM

HN Kathleen M Peck — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:44:31 -0500

I don't feel disrespected if I don't get a free meal or even a 10% military discount. (BTW my son agrees, vet, 10 yrs Army, 2 yrs Iraq) who volunteered his service, as did I (Navy - Viet Nam Conflict). I served my country with honor, (although that era was a sad time for returning military). I don't understand this entitlement. It's shameful and disrespectful to the uniform and what it stands for; why these vets feel it necessary to make a scene over a free meal or discount is beyond me. Maybe a day volunteering at a local soup kitchen where the homeless go for a meal would make these people feel differently about complaining of "feeling disrespected"..... Many of our homeless get one meal a day and they get what they get, no choice. Also, stop and think about what message is being sent to the young people encountered in an establishment that serves a free meal (or 10% military discount) to veterans who are complaining.....

Response by PO2 Rich Collingwood made Nov 15 at 2016 10:02 PM

PO2 Rich Collingwood — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:02:58 -0500

Agreed, those businesses don't owe us anything and if we accept anything from them we should be very greatful. No whining or complaining! I drove by 3 restaurants serving free meals to buy a greasy burger at a different restaurant. I don't like the mobs. I'll support the ones that give the 10% off all the time and be thankful and happy.

Being a Vietnam Era Vet, I'm just delighted to be treated nicely!

Response by Sgt Jim Belcher made Nov 15 at 2016 10:29 PM

Sgt Jim Belcher — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:29:12 -0500

No. IHOP and every restaurant or business should only be chastised if they single out military or veterans in a negative way. Most veterans I know avoid anything free or reduced. It's a nice gesture, but not necessary.

Response by Sgt Jim Belcher made Nov 15 at 2016 10:29 PM

Sgt Jim Belcher — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:29:31 -0500

Response by PO1 Daniel Davis made Nov 15 at 2016 10:42 PM

PO1 Daniel Davis — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:42:00 -0500

I am not embarrassed to request a military discount just as I do not mind accepting a government discount. I proudly served my country and enjoy being given the respect for my service. I generally don't go to those restaurants that give away free meals because they are normally packed and I don't like waiting in the lines. I am not offended that a company does not have a military discount or freebies on Veteran's Day. These are gifts which some companies choose to give, not an entitlement. It offends me that some people feel entitled to these gifts. Get over it!

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2016 11:55 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:55:53 -0500

SSG Aaron Sweeney,
In my experience and opinion I think that everyone need to remember that not all of us volunteered to serve our military services. With that said I volunteered before the All Volunteered Forces. I already had five years in the Marine Corps. Back then during the Vietnam War people who were young baby boomers and in today's society did not like anyone who served in the military, especially if you fought in Vietnam as my father did. Now back to your question, "What are my thoughts"? I think that every Veteran is different and no two are alike. If Veterans wanted anything to me that would be peace and healthcare, getting a good job and an education. I'm just thankful that some not all do recognize the sacrifices that veterans from all eras are recognized by our society. But to be upset about not getting any bennies is a little ungrateful and unprofessional. Funny, now that you mentioned it. My sons told me on Veterans Day that my wife and I could get free bennies or discounts from Apple B's, and other places. My take on this was I don't want to be recognized for just being a Veteran. I know I had served in the Marine Corps and also served my fellow veterans. To me that's what we do to serve others not ourselves. There's always others that want to be recognized so be it, but not me nor my wife and my sons. That's why I served in the first place, to protect, meet other Marines, get an education and healthcare but the most important to me is my FREEDOM. I know that other people may have a different take on your question, but that's why we have choices and freedom to do that.

Semper Fidelis,
Gunner Kaupe

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2016 1:44 AM

LCpl Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:44:10 -0500

Who cares, I'll buy my own. It would be nice if they fed homeless vets Free , vets who need it.

Response by 1LT Rich Voss made Nov 16 at 2016 2:02 AM

1LT Rich Voss — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 02:02:52 -0500

I have never asked for a "free" meal, nor expected one for my military service. I probably would not identify myself as former Army in an establishment that offered them. I pay my way. I also was drafted during the height of the build up to Viet Nam and lost out on a choice Ivy League University because of that. Oh well. I was still fortunate enough to attend and graduate from Armor OCS, which really did change my life. A free meal won't ever do that. I got what I was "entitled" to which was a college education via the GI bill when I left active duty. Still haven't needed to use VA benefits for health care, thank goodness. I'm sure that their are old Vets like me that actually NEED the free meal, and they should get them AND not be scorned or ridiculed by others when that happens. Lastly, I hope that each and every fake soldier should be prosecuted under whatever statute applies for "stolen valor" in their area if they attempt to get something they didn't actually earn.

Response by SGT(P) Troy Williams made Nov 16 at 2016 2:43 AM

SGT(P) Troy Williams — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 02:43:13 -0500

I am a retired veteran, when I am home and go out to eat, I ask if they offer a military discount, if they do that's fine, if they don't that's fine. I don't demand a discount, I simply appreciate the recognition they give freely, that's enough for me, whining about not getting a discount is petty in my opinion and makes us look self centered instead of proud veterans like most of us are.

Response by PO3 Daniel Bearce made Nov 16 at 2016 3:56 AM

PO3 Daniel Bearce — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:56:53 -0500

I enjoy the free meals on veterans day, however I leave a large tip and don't complane when thongs take longer than normal.

Response by Sheila Soto made Nov 16 at 2016 6:25 AM

Sheila Soto — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 06:25:26 -0500

San Antonio, TX. IHOPS Gave 3 Red White & Blue Pancakes Free to Vets/Active, too!

Response by SFC Tom Carey made Nov 16 at 2016 8:08 AM

SFC Tom Carey — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 08:08:31 -0500

No. I never expect a discount. I am aware of many stores that offer military discounts. I do go out my way to shop from these businesses!

Response by Lt Col Phil Henning made Nov 16 at 2016 8:23 AM

Lt Col Phil Henning — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 08:23:57 -0500

It's up to them to decide. The discount seems more than adequate.

Response by Sgt John Steinmeier made Nov 16 at 2016 9:00 AM

Sgt John Steinmeier — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 09:00:10 -0500

I think it's great that some companies go out of there way to offer specials to AD, Retirees, Veterans and First Responders. I personally do not go out of my way to take advantage of those specials. I cannot say how many times I have been spontaneously asked since I left AD/Reserves for my military ID as well as Law Enforcement ID so the cashier can give me a discount. I tell them then I am a Veteran, and they will still push to offer the discount so I show them my State Drivers License which has a "V" for Veteran on it.

Response by SSgt Scott Taylor made Nov 16 at 2016 9:28 AM

SSgt Scott Taylor — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 09:28:45 -0500

SSgt Sweeney, I agree with you. I joined the service to make a difference, not to get freebies.

Response by PO1 Jim Spencer made Nov 16 at 2016 10:15 AM

PO1 Jim Spencer — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:15:27 -0500

I never go to any of the places that offer a free meal on Veterans Day. I'm not looking for freebies. I served because I wanted to serve not because I was hoping someone would give me a free meal. My VFW Post. Marilao Post 33 in Greensburg, PA. has a Veterans Day program every year. We have guest speakers and a 21 gun salute at 1100. After the program is over we have a nice lunch paid for by us members and prepared by the Auxiliary. My wife and I go every year. I get to sit down to a meal with her and my Veteran friends. It makes for a good way to spend a day. What could be better ?

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Nov 16 at 2016 11:17 AM

SPC Sheila Lewis — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 11:17:47 -0500

No, that offer should be considered "something nice," just say thank you.

Response by SGT David Petree made Nov 16 at 2016 12:15 PM

SGT David Petree — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:15:37 -0500

( Entitlement ) No we are NOT entitled to Free meals just because. I get a discount where I eat . Because they offer it. It saves me a Dollar or to . Free comes when a person asks me if I am a Vet. & shacks my hand, then they pay my ticket !!! That brings tears to my eyes. I stood the watch , like my father before me . A free cup of coffee is more importation then free food every day.

Response by CPL Deanna Green (Parkinson) made Nov 16 at 2016 12:58 PM

CPL Deanna Green (Parkinson) — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:58:36 -0500

I agree Aaron, I never expected what I call "hero hailing." I signed up for a job, I was proud of what I did. Being recognized is nice, and I do appreciate it. However, a simple thank you covers it for me. I still continue to serve in other ways now. Makes me feel just as good. I would happily turn over my free meal to someone who didn't eat today. Just my two cents!

Response by SGT William Howell made Nov 16 at 2016 1:22 PM

SGT William Howell — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:22:13 -0500

I was a cop for many years. Some places gave me discounts - some places didn't. The places would not give me a discount, but did the day before. I had a cop I worked with that always demeaned his discount (yes he was a full blown asshole and I told him so). I was always ready to pay for my meal and I would never asked for a discount. If they gave it great. If they did not great.

A gift is given, not taken.

As a vet it should be the same. If somebody wants to say thank you by giving you a free steak. Then take it (don't be stupid-it's a free steak!), but because a restaurant doesn't offer you a meal, don't get shitty. Your thanks is knowing you don't have to wait in a bread line to pay a weeks salary so you family can eat for a couple days like Venezuela.

I did not eat out this year, because I didn't have time to wait a hour, but in the past I always give the server a tip for the cost of the meal. While being a vet is a honor, there are people that take the time to bring a vet a meal and that is pretty special too.

Response by SFC Robert Strickland made Nov 16 at 2016 2:25 PM

SFC Robert Strickland — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 14:25:55 -0500

Being a Veteran does NOT entitle one to a free meal, Veteran discounts, or anything else. It is nice to be recognized and all but definitely not an entitlement.

Response by LCpl Gary Kain made Nov 16 at 2016 2:59 PM

LCpl Gary Kain — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 14:59:05 -0500

I agree with you 100%. I am one to boycott institutions and organizations that disrespect our military ( not one NFL game this year). I do not believe that demanding something for "nothing" is a reasonable way to demonstrate your disapproval.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2016 4:21 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 16:21:26 -0500

I agree x1000. I certainly will not turn down a discount or something free if it is offered to me. But by no means do I feel that a commercial establishment "owes" me anything or is un-Patriotic/American if they don't. It's unbecoming to whine about not being worshipped. We joined to serve, not to be served.

Response by Cpl Franz Buhlmann made Nov 16 at 2016 6:17 PM

Cpl Franz Buhlmann — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 18:17:48 -0500

I see this as exactly the same thing as tips. Most people will disagree with me on the subject.

Just like servers, if you break down the wage receive for serving in the military, it is pennies on the dollar compared to other occupations. At least it was when I was in. You even have to help pay your own wage!

If it is wrong for those that served in the military to expect a tip in the form of a discount for their service, it is equally as wrong for table servers and other servers to expect a tip for their service. However, in America, a person is looked down upon for not providing a tip or one that is high enough and often are condemned. Many places do not even offer the option to tip or not to tip because they will include in the the bill automatically at their set rate.

In a country that believes that we owe a tip to those that serve us, there is absolutely nothing wrong from those who provide the most costly of services to likewise expect the same.

For those of you who give servers tips and talk down about military members and vets expecting the same, you should be ashamed of yourselves for discriminating and practicing such a double standard!

In every other type of service, those people working in those jobs have the freedom of choosing to continue or quit and finding another job, this includes law enforcement officers and firefighters. However, when you are in the military, you give away your freedom to make a choice and quite just anytime you want.

I also find it insulting by you officers speaking down at the lower ranking disposable service members that expect something for "free or discounted." I can understand why an office may be too proud to accept something.

Based on my experience while serving, it was those lower ranks that did the most dangerous jobs and provided the real "Service," while the officers were at a safe distance with clean hands. Heck, I cannot even remember how many times that I risked my life saving officers, many of which had a great deal of respect unlike what I read in this discussion.

Just because you disagree with others regarding this topic, don't be childish and condemn those of a different opinion.

Those of you that put down service members because they expect a tip (discount) all the while boasting how generous you are towards other types of servers should be ashamed of yourselves for being two-faced. Either tip or don't tip, discount or no discount. That is your choice. But at least have some self respect and be steadfast in your believe and practice. Stop being double minded.

Response by MSgt Mike Briney made Nov 16 at 2016 6:34 PM

MSgt Mike Briney — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 18:34:25 -0500

Personally, I appreciate the gesture that the businesses are trying to make. With that said, I do not go out looking for the freebies or deals.

Response by SSG Eddye Royal made Nov 16 at 2016 6:47 PM

SSG Eddye Royal — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 18:47:51 -0500

SSG Sweeney, most of the IHOP''s are franchises, thus does not have a military/veteran discount when presenting your military #ID; but if you ask your waiter waitress they normally can ask the manger on duty that's normally what I do and it works for me if they can.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2016 9:01 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:01:18 -0500

SFC Private RallyPoint Member I completely agree...to the extent that if a place offers a known military discount, unless it will save me some significant amount of money (something in the neighborhood of $50 or more) I won't ask about a military discount. That said, if I am in uniform or they spot my ID (no, I don't flash it for this), or they ask, or I go there regularly so they know I am military, or I am there specifically because of some sort of military appreciation thing, I am not turning the discount down... I am not a moron. :)

Response by SPC Donn Sinclair made Nov 17 at 2016 6:53 AM

SPC Donn Sinclair — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 06:53:55 -0500

I've never been a big fan of these giveaways, because stuff like this usually happens. The second worse happening are vets I know who map out places that offer freebies, spend all day gorging free meals. I'm more comfortable paying my way. A simple "thank you for your service" is good enough for me.

Response by PO1 Gregg Mundy made Nov 17 at 2016 11:15 PM

PO1 Gregg Mundy — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 23:15:47 -0500

IHOP's in North Florida do offer Military Discounts on Veterans Day, and my recent (early Sept.) trip to San Diego, Ca ALL restaurants and drive-thru's asked if I wanted my Veteran discount!!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2016 9:36 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:36:24 -0500

In 26 years of service I've never gone to or asked for a free (fill in the blank). I hold no grudges against those that do. I serve because I enjoy what I do. I don't expect anyone to thank me, but I do graciously accept thanks and thank people in return. I have however had people literally knock me out of the way trying to pay for things for me (meals, groceries, etc.). In those instances I apply the Austin Powers attempt to deny rule. I will refuse 3 times, if they still insist, I accept, graciously thank and move on.

I do believe that when people attach "veteran" to their argument, reason for special treatment or assistance, unless they are dealing with a federal agency (i.e. branch of service, VA, etc.), it is extremely unbecoming and makes vets and troops in general look like moochers.

Response by TSgt James Carson made Nov 18 at 2016 11:30 AM

TSgt James Carson — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 11:30:17 -0500

Whine, Whine, Whine. We as veterans should get over our selves. We don't need all these discoounts with these business'. Do you and your family a big favor and do other activities without looking for discounts, or stay home. At times it's better NOT to be seen seen or herd of. Be proud of your service, just don't put it in other peoples' faces.

Response by GySgt Kenneth Pepper made Nov 18 at 2016 1:03 PM

GySgt Kenneth Pepper — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:03:22 -0500

Off the subject a bit, but, why would any SM wear a combat/utility uniform out to dinner at a civilian restaurant? I'm not questioning regs, I know it is permissible by some branches. I just think it looks sloppy. Is it that hard to put on a uniform with some nice sharp creases and some shiny disco shoes?

Response by CSM Robert J. "Bob" Parr, RD made Nov 18 at 2016 11:38 PM

CSM Robert J. "Bob" Parr, RD — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 23:38:27 -0500

I grew up in a different Army. My Father was a Soldier. Theye wore poppies on their service dress, participated in uniform in Armistice/Veterans Day ceremonies in uniform and observed a moment of silence at 1100. To us it was a special Day where we with friends remembering our friends and our predecessors.

Response by LCDR Arthur Glover made Nov 22 at 2016 10:05 AM

LCDR Arthur Glover — Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:05:50 -0500

I totally agree that we did not serve to get discounts once a year. If a business wants to give a discount, then I think that is admirable of that business and I will leave a tip based on the value of my meal.

Response by SFC Frank Hart made Nov 23 at 2016 8:43 AM

SFC Frank Hart — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:43:02 -0500

If a business gives any discount to veterans, they should be praised. Those that demand perks for being a veteran will find that they will loose them. Just because you served is not a good reason to demand a discount.

Response by MSG Don Burt made Nov 24 at 2016 3:42 PM

MSG Don Burt — Thu, 24 Nov 2016 15:42:09 -0500

I've seen that in other places also, but I believe it's up to the individually run/owned business. They have that right and to me those who do honor our vets get my business first, the others will have to
wait.

Response by SSG Jeff Tollefsen made Dec 4 at 2016 12:22 AM

SSG Jeff Tollefsen — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 00:22:50 -0500

Grow the fupk up. Quit being leaches on the society you have swon to protect additionally IHOP deserves to be applouded and commended for their continued support of not only the military, how often have you taken your wife and children to IHOP and received an additional kids eat free/ while giving a 10% discount on your wives meal as well as your own. Please thank them and maybe some child isn't going to bed hungry tonight thanks to them. RESPECTFULLY YOURS SSG. TOLLEFSEN (R.)

Response by MAJ Karen Wall made Dec 18 at 2016 10:31 PM

MAJ Karen Wall — Sun, 18 Dec 2016 22:31:19 -0500

DItto...well said!

Response by CMSgt Mickey Wright made Dec 27 at 2016 8:52 AM

CMSgt Mickey Wright — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 08:52:27 -0500

Why should you get something for free? By your service, you're allowing free enterprise and free speech. The choice is obvious, if you have a problem, don't go back. All these whiny veterans are just that, whiny.

Response by SMSgt Sheila Berg made Dec 27 at 2016 12:44 PM

SMSgt Sheila Berg — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 12:44:32 -0500

What is needed is a national military ID not related to VA health care. This will eliminate the confusion and having to carry around the DD214 or discharge papers. Some States allow a "V" on the driver's license or license plate. my personal experience is the DVM doesn't require proof of service. This Military ID should include "peacetime" service members.

Response by SGT Eliyahu Rooff made Dec 28 at 2016 2:04 PM

SGT Eliyahu Rooff — Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:04:06 -0500

We need to remember that it's up to the individual restaurant owner to decide whether to offer special deals for veterans and military. They're not getting reimbursed by the corporation for the promotion, and I think we can also agree that not all franchises are awash in extra cash. Some of them may not be able to write off the cost of several hundred free meals.

Response by PO1 H Palmer made Dec 29 at 2016 10:41 AM

PO1 H Palmer — Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:41:29 -0500

I do not go out for a free meal on Veteran's Day. What I like to do is pay for a meal when I see a few Vets eating together during the year.

Response by PO1 Rodney Bracey made Dec 30 at 2016 7:58 AM

PO1 Rodney Bracey — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 07:58:22 -0500

I have been avoiding these chain restaurant establishments on Veteran's Day for years. It's not worth the hassle, the wait or the very limited menu items at some places.

Here's a better idea. Get together with your Veteran buddies and have a BBQ/cookout.

Response by CPL Howard Conover made Dec 30 at 2016 7:15 PM

CPL Howard Conover — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:15:08 -0500

I am the type of person/soldier that if I am recognized for my service of course I am honored. Receiving a discount for a meal is not a big deal but I am always pleased when discounts are offered but it is not something I "break my neck" over.

Response by CPO Earl Jones made Jan 5 at 2017 2:16 PM

CPO Earl Jones — Thu, 05 Jan 2017 14:16:57 -0500

I look at it this way. The reason I joined the military, stayed and retired after 24 years of service, wasn't to get a discounted at a restaurant. When I go out and eat, I choose the placed based on me liking the place, not being given a discount because I served in the military. Having served in the military only entitles me to one thing and for me is the most important, that's the brotherhood & sisterhood of those who also have served. So if I get a discount great and if not, its not that important.

Response by PO2 Theodore Beaudoin made Jan 10 at 2017 10:16 AM

PO2 Theodore Beaudoin — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:16:45 -0500

I don't feel like we as veterans should expect anything for our service. As you said we joined a volunteer military. Very few of us were drafted. I greatly appreciate it when any company offers a discount or other benefit for military service. Whining and complaining that a company doesn't offer anything is idiotic and a waste of time. Every company has to do what is best for them. Sometimes that mean they can't give anything.

Response by Cpl Cary Cartter made Jan 12 at 2017 11:04 AM

Cpl Cary Cartter — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:04:27 -0500

Being a Veteran is not a guarantee of anything except belonging to a very large family that has your back. Discounts are nice, but they are not a guarantee. Most of the time, I don't bother asking. If a place has a sign posted about a discount, then I will ask for it.

If a place of business doesn't offer a discount, it's no skin off my nose. I certainly don't think they are un-American or un-Patriotic if they don't.

Response by PO1 Jim Spencer made Jan 12 at 2017 11:48 AM

PO1 Jim Spencer — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:48:04 -0500

My wife and I spend most of our Veterans Day at the local VFW Post. There's a nice program they put on every year with guest speakers. Then after the program there's a nice lunch paid for by us members and prepared by the Auxiliary. It's nice spending the day with other Veterans and their family members.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2017 6:59 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 06:59:10 -0500

Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. If you picked up a gun for free pancakes, chances are, you are an asshole. Also, on this subject, I've seen a lot of these negative reviews written not by veterans/active duty, but by their spouses. Personally, I feel that's a whole other level of unjust entitlement.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2017 7:00 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:00:34 -0500

If you picked up a gun for free pancakes, you're priorities are all sorts of fucked.

Response by PO2 Jonathan Cruz made Jan 24 at 2017 12:47 PM

PO2 Jonathan Cruz — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:47:16 -0500

I am a United States Sailor. I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and I will obey the orders of those appointed over me. I represent the fighting spirit of the Navy and those who have gone before me to defend freedom and democracy around the world.

There is nothing in my creed that gives me any entitlement. There's nothing in my enlistment contract that gives me any inclination of entitlement from the civilian sector. Clearly, those who are "up in arms", have not embraced their respective military core values. I have embraced Honor in respresenting the fighting spirit of the Navy, Courage to fight for those who cannot, and the Commitment to excellence that includes the highest level of professionalism worthy of those who have gone before me.

Response by SPC Randy Torgerson made Jan 24 at 2017 1:56 PM

SPC Randy Torgerson — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:56:07 -0500

Of course not..... If a business wants to do it, great, if not, thats just fine as well.

Response by SPC Mary J Randall made Jan 24 at 2017 6:51 PM

SPC Mary J Randall — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 18:51:49 -0500

They should ask for the serviceman's discount at the facility just as you would for a senior discount that is generally offered by stores, restaurants and others. Check the wording of the ad if offered any day. Why? I was recently went to Sonic drive-in and they advertise the Sonic cheeseburger was on sale for 50% but it was supposedly this one burger, not the jr cheeseburger that I normally ordered and it costed me over $16.00 instead of less then $10.00. Write a letter to Corporate who unsatisfied with meal or service or not offering discounts. They might not realize that there might be a problem especially since most stores are frantised instead of being own by the company.

Response by SGT Joey Banegas made Feb 8 at 2017 8:53 AM

SGT Joey Banegas — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:53:13 -0500

Take what you can or can't get and move out! Too many whining asses these days. What I'm wondering is....Who are these so called Vets? I lost my leg in Afghanistan, and was wounded twice. Just 4 days apart. I'm far from the ideal, example setting vet. (Don't claim to be!) But if I ain't complaining, and do see this as a big deal....Don't see why these others are??

Response by PO2 Earl Aylward made Feb 8 at 2017 10:31 AM

PO2 Earl Aylward — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 10:31:44 -0500

Most Veteran's Days I intentionally avoid dinner at restaurants. This is primarily because I don't feel that I am "owed" anything. I think that it is great that some businesses recognize and support our Veterans, Active Duty, First Responders, etc... I just try to keep in mind to attempt to pay it forward.

Response by 1SG Doyce Rich made Feb 9 at 2017 10:38 PM

1SG Doyce Rich — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 22:38:00 -0500

Being a Vietnam vet and not even wanting anyone to know where I'd been when I returned home to how vets are treated today is different as night and day. After a 15 year service break I completed 22 years in the National Guard and Army Reserve and was proud to let it be known I was a Veteran. If a business offers a discount I am very grateful but never make it a point on whether I do business with them or not. I'm troubled greatly by any vet that feels they are entitled just because of their service, there is too much of this entitlement mentality in America today and there is no room for it in the ranks of veterans, we are better than that, we are more honorable than that.

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Feb 15 at 2017 6:01 AM

SSgt Boyd Herrst — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:01:46 -0500

When I go into an establishment and am done, I don't bug them for a Veteran's discount.. especially if others are around who may not be Veterans.. if I get it fine, if not, fine again.. not going to make an issue of it...

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Feb 15 at 2017 6:32 AM

SSgt Boyd Herrst — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:32:46 -0500

Don't change any of it.. it's says what it says and what it means.. this reads , getting p.c. ...

Response by PO3 Donald Murphy made Feb 15 at 2017 9:43 AM

PO3 Donald Murphy — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:43:15 -0500

We owe our todays to those who gave our yesterdays. Yes you will thank us. Yes we are special. You have life, liberty and prosperity because of us. Yes you will show it. Just like you're exhorted on TV and everywhere to thank momma on mother's day. Why? She just pushed you out of her uterus. No big deal, right? Try telling that to momma... Or how about thanking your wife on your anniversary? Sorry. We thank everyone else. Time to thank the military.

Morgan Freeman - black - once questioned why we have a black history month. His quip was something to the effect of we should honor their achievements every month, not just at a certain time. Well there's your answer. Military honoring should be every day too. Too much? Not sure where you live but I see restaurants and establishments that offer teachers and police free meals EVERY DAY. Not just at one time of the year.

Response by SGT Windell Bryant made Feb 15 at 2017 5:52 PM

SGT Windell Bryant — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:52:17 -0500

No I don't soldiers, airmen, marines, sea men and vets remember we all raised our hand and volunteered to serve the country as its protectors. Yes some of us did this for other reasons but serve and protect is all that we do. Who cares if you something free or half off that shouldn't matter be proud of your service.

Response by 1SG Harold Piet made Feb 23 at 2017 5:30 AM

1SG Harold Piet — Thu, 23 Feb 2017 05:30:14 -0500

http://www.ushistory.org/documents/ask-not.htm

John F. Kennedy's Inaugural Address, January 20, 1961 And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.

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Response by SMSgt Roger Horton made Feb 23 at 2017 5:58 AM

SMSgt Roger Horton — Thu, 23 Feb 2017 05:58:54 -0500

With my wife's health issues we very seldom eat out. We do, when we go to the city and usually get food to go but we don't shop for a veteran's discount. We go where we get good food and good service. Some places see my gray ugly head and offer us a senior citizen's discount that we graciously accept.

Response by SPC Johnney Abbott made Feb 23 at 2017 7:38 AM

SPC Johnney Abbott — Thu, 23 Feb 2017 07:38:24 -0500

No we shouldn't feel disrespected. The only thing you're "entitled" to is a thank you. Personally I'd like to see businesses stop offering free stuff when Veterans Day rolls around. That'll cut down on the stolen valor pieces of crap out there.

Response by SPC Ramon Cruz made Feb 23 at 2017 8:36 AM

SPC Ramon Cruz — Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:36:19 -0500

I don't ask but if it is offered I accept it. That's only happened twice and both times I added what my meal would have cost to the server's tip. If it's a fast food restaurant I take it if it's offered. I have seen Veteran's go off on servers before and the worst was a spouse at Taco Bell who was livid because her husband didn't get a discount. Screaming "read his hat" the whole time.

Response by SGT Jody Beach made Feb 23 at 2017 9:23 AM

SGT Jody Beach — Thu, 23 Feb 2017 09:23:51 -0500

As a veteran and a business owner I think it is great when companies such as Texas Road house offer a free meal on veterans. I also shop for my home repair supplies at Home Depot and Lowes because they offer 10% discount. Currently purchased a new Cud Cadet (1699.00 dollars) and received 10% off of that purchase. When I go to Pic-A-Part I get in free and 10% off. Always..
So on veterans day I am grateful to companies that offer something free and will use those companies more often then those that do not offer discount. I would never complain about the ones that do not offer discount they do not have to. I just spend my money at the ones that do.
On the other hand we are boycotting Star Bucks coffee. Any company that will treat refugees better than our own soldiers will not be getting my money.
It is very disrespectful for a representative of an branch of the armed forces to trash talk a company just because they don't give you something free.

Response by PFC Aaron Cox made Feb 23 at 2017 5:07 PM

PFC Aaron Cox — Thu, 23 Feb 2017 17:07:15 -0500

There are always going to be people with this attitude. In some cases it is because a business has spoken out against service persons and spoken disrespectful of them. During the first Gulf war Starbucks refused to send US Servicemen and women in the Middle East Starbucks Coffee because the French Government did not support the war. This resulted in a boycott that did not end until the company sent the requested coffee.

Response by MAJ Stephen Barnard made Feb 28 at 2017 9:50 AM

MAJ Stephen Barnard — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:50:17 -0500

During Desert Shield / Desert Storm the business people of El Paso were astonishingly generous to all the families left behind on Ft Bliss; I suspect businesses step up when they can; it's still a tight (global) economy by all accounts. And for the record the only discount I was ever offered, being in the British Army, was 10% off entry to the Raymond Revue Bar in London's Soho area after the Falklands :-) !

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Mar 17 at 2017 7:36 AM

SMSgt Lawrence McCarter — Fri, 17 Mar 2017 07:36:30 -0400

The fact some merchants offer discounts to Veterans , that is their choice to say thanks in that manner and appreciated when its is offered. Don't confuse that with an entitlement, it isn't !

Response by PFC Sid Levin made Apr 18 at 2017 9:31 PM

PFC Sid Levin — Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:31:57 -0400

I am amused. ON Veterans Day, IHOP offers a FREE Red, White and Blue stack of pancakes!
On Veterans Day, 2016, in addition to IHOP, I enjoyed a coupon for a free haircut, a free oil change, a free car wash and a free dinner with a 25% discount for my Bride. I could have had free coffee, a free donut, a free lunch at about a dozen places and more. There are many places that offer a free meal, free appitizer, dessert or nice discounts. Golden Coral offers a free buffet on the Monday after Veterans Day.

Response by Cpl Franz Buhlmann made Apr 22 at 2017 4:58 PM

Cpl Franz Buhlmann — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 16:58:20 -0400

Serving in the military is much like serving tables.

Discounts are like tips.

If it is expected to tip those that serve, than tip those that serve, regardless who they are or where they serve!

I for one, have provided both types of these types of services.

Many Restaurants automatically to the bill when you do business with their establishment without asking for your input!

Those of us that serve in the military provide the greatest of all service compared to all others, without any of the escape clauses the others provide.

Until you are man or woman enough to equally condemn tipping table servers, stop condemning other servers that likewise desire an expression of gratitude! In other words, stop being two-faced!

Response by CPO Earl Jones made Apr 27 at 2017 3:45 PM

CPO Earl Jones — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:45:58 -0400

I try to stay out of restaurants during Veteran day, for me just to crowded for me. I didn't join the military to get a discount on goods & services. If they give it to me great but they are not required to and it isn't disrespectful to Vets if a discount isn't given.

Response by A1C Suzy Ospina made May 5 at 2017 12:55 PM

A1C Suzy Ospina — Fri, 05 May 2017 12:55:15 -0400

Restaurant or store or movie Military discounts are not entitlements. I did not sign up to protect my country for a job, college education or discounts. I joined the all volunteer military to protect my country where my parent were allowed to immigrate to for a better life. The discount are a nice thank you from the public or companies. I do not begrudge a company if: their discount is 1% or 20%, do not offer a discount or offers a discount once a year. In these tough economic times I accept the discount and say Thank You.

Response by TSgt James Carson made May 11 at 2017 12:30 PM

TSgt James Carson — Thu, 11 May 2017 12:30:55 -0400

It really is nice for companies to make such offers to veterans, but if our country would just honor it's promise to veterans that would be enough. Besides, we can where out our welcome with these offers. I personally don't participate in these offers as I feel like a dog getting table scraps.

Response by CAPT Hiram Patterson made May 11 at 2017 1:02 PM

CAPT Hiram Patterson — Thu, 11 May 2017 13:02:11 -0400

If I happend to be somewhere where it's offered I'll take advantage. If it's not, no big deal. One of our local Mexican restaurant chains always offers a free special meal for veterans and military. Nothing fancy (a couple of enchiladas with beans and rice for example) and inexpensive. They do this because their founder (still living) was a WW2 Army Air Corps pilot. My wife has known him for years and I met him one time; a very nice Mexican gentleman.

Response by PFC Aaron Cox made May 11 at 2017 5:07 PM

PFC Aaron Cox — Thu, 11 May 2017 17:07:29 -0400

I would rather they show appreciation then spit on me.

Response by Cpl Ray Fernandez made May 12 at 2017 1:59 AM

Cpl Ray Fernandez — Fri, 12 May 2017 01:59:22 -0400

Honestly I never go to any of the Veteran's Day offerings. I'd much rather hope that the same companies making these types of gestures would rather make a more meaningful difference in the lives of veterans by offering them opportunities to improve veterans and their families lives. Veterans still have some of the highest unemployment rates of any group.

Response by LCDR Joshua Gillespie made Apr 16 at 2019 2:39 PM

LCDR Joshua Gillespie — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:39:49 -0400

Opinions are opinions; here's mine. It's been a long time since the Draft... most of us volunteered, enjoyed some relatively good benefits while in, and access to some appreciable (if somewhat difficult to obtain) benefits thereafter. Some of us lived out our dreams, found purpose, comradeship... perhaps the stories we'd tell (within varied degrees of truth) for the rest of our lives.

No one owes me a thing.

I respect companies and businesses that offer these discounts, and wouldn't begrudge anyone who actively pursues, let alone accepts them... but for me, my time is past, and the memories are what I treasure.

Response by SSG Kenneth Ponder made Oct 21 at 2019 5:44 PM

SSG Kenneth Ponder — Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:44:30 -0400

I personally do not accept veteran's discounts. If they want to give it that's fine. I don't accept it. It is a shame and a disgrace to watch active duty or a veteran cry and whine for a damn discount. That includes police, fire dept, dog catcher, stc,etc,etc.

Response by CPO Clyde Bilyeu made Feb 27 at 2021 3:28 PM

CPO Clyde Bilyeu — Sat, 27 Feb 2021 15:28:00 -0500

By no means is it a obligation from the general public to offer free or discounted rewards. I so very much appreciate when I go into a business and the recognition of my husband’s service in the Navy of 22 years is honored. I spent our dollars in their facilities as a way to say “ thanks”.

By the way, we’ve never gone for a “free” meal, but lots of meals that we willingly paid for. I’m thankful they employ people so they can live in our society.
God Bless American.

Response by SPC Lyle Montgomery made Nov 21 at 2021 1:42 PM

SPC Lyle Montgomery — Sun, 21 Nov 2021 13:42:27 -0500

I appreciate all those buisnesses that always give a vet a discount like Lowes, Home Depot, Northern tools and many others too numerous to mention and those who offer a free meal on veterans day. They certainly don't have to and I appreciate it when they do. I don't know if I would call it an entitlement or just an act of appreciation.I go out of my way to patronise these fine buisnesses that do

Response by SPC Vonnie Jones made Mar 11 at 2023 12:43 PM

SPC Vonnie Jones — Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:43:21 -0500

I got out in 1989, nobody was saying thanks for your service and I didn't expect them to. I served by my own choice. A few years ago I went to olive garden and it was nice treatment on Veterans day. The best time I had on Veterans day was when me and Sgt Sally Minor would go out to the nearby Filipino restaurant on Veterans day (no discount or free meal) just enjoying each other company. It's n I ce to talk to other Veterans. Although we served at different times there was still a comrade that some may not understand. Sgt Minor died a few years ago so going out on Veterans day is not on my agenda these past years. I don't just think about her on Veterans day, but anytime I go to Veterans hospital. I don't need a free meal or a thank you for your service. I just want the promises that were made to use to be kept. Thank ne for ny service by being transparent about chemicals I and Sgt Minor and many others had been exposed to. I think everybody loves a discount, but it's a nicetie not a most. I do appreciate those that appreciate my service, but whatever happened to serving for the good of the cause? To serve without expectation is service.

Response by LCpl Robert Michaud made Mar 25 at 2023 1:44 PM

LCpl Robert Michaud — Sat, 25 Mar 2023 13:44:37 -0400

Instead of bad mouthing companies that give discounts to Vets and service members and then don't publicise it they should bouycot the companies that disrespect the active duty member by not assisting them like Target and Starbucks. In the Iraqi war service members asked for coffee and other things to be sent over and they were willing to pay for everything , but these companies stated they don't support the war or them and would not sell to them. If a company decides to not do anything on Veterains day that is their business. If you look most of the time they offer discounts all year so why make it something special on a particular day.

Response by CPL Raeanne Mitchell made May 1 at 2023 1:00 AM

CPL Raeanne Mitchell — Mon, 01 May 2023 01:00:12 -0400

I feel not at all entitled to a discount, nor is it expected. I feel honored to follow many distinguished veterans, both war and peacetime service. I was a cold war era veteran. I was in Germany when the wall fell and reunification finally happened. Too many died fleeing from behind those barriers. I feel most honored just to have anyone acknowledge sacrifices made to keep USA safe. I am not entitled, I'm honored to have served.