MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 2495474 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> 2017-04-15T02:31:23-04:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 2495474

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2017-04-15T02:31:23-04:00 2017-04-15T02:31:23-04:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 2495483

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So here are the specifics - Our battalion is headquartered in Iraq, with teams all over Iraq and Jordan, and we also support Syria. Our BDE is 408th CSB and is in Kuwait. Our BN and BDE wear the AMC patch as our unit patch. The current OIR Theater Command is the XVIII Airborne Corps (CJTF-OIR) and the current Iraq Theater Command (CJFLCC-OIR) is 1ID. The RCC-OIR BN has an enduring mission to support OIR throughout it&#39;s duration. As a result, we have teams embedded with 1ID all over Iraq, LNOs with CJTF-OIR and BDE, and the BC is embedded at the same location as the 1ID Commander. However, we are not OPCON, ADCON, TACON, or attached in anyway to 1ID or XVIII Airborne Corps. <br /><br />Since our BN and BDE wear the patch from an Army Major Command, we are not authorized to wear it as a SSI-FWT per 670-1. Here is what it says:<br /><br />&quot;A deployed unit will not wear its assigned SSI as its SSI-FWTS when the SSI belongs to a major command, such as an ACOM/ASCC/DRU or State Area Command, or a non-deployable unit. In such cases, the unit will wear the SSI of the lowest echelon Army unit (company or higher) in the deployed chain of command as the SSI-FWTS. When there is no intermediate unit (company or higher) in the deployed chain of command, these deployed Soldiers will wear the SSI of the senior command in the theater as its SSI-FWTS.&quot;<br /><br />However, both 1ID and XVIII Airborne Corps tell us that since we are not attached to any of them, we are not authorized to wear their patch and they refuse to sign a memo allowing us to wear the patch. Based on the info in 670-1, we are authorized to wear one of their patches, but the question is who&#39;s patch and how do we get them to accept it.<br /><br />Personally, since we support more than 1ID&#39;s AO, I think we should be wearing the XVIII Airborne Corps Patch, but the argument can also be made that 85% of our battalion is supporting 1ID and those individuals that are embedded with 1ID should be able to wear the 1ID patch.<br /><br />At the risk of sounding presumptuous, we are the primary contracting effort for both of these commands and without our battalion, they will not be able to accomplish their mission. I realize the same can be said for many other supporting entities, but both of these commands also fund our requirements. We are just left to feel like the redheaded stepchild that no one wants, but needs.

2017-04-15T02:57:10-04:00 2017-04-15T02:57:10-04:00 1SG Mike Case 2495516

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When there is no intermediate unit (company or higher) in the deployed chain of command, these deployed Soldiers will wear the SSI of the senior command in the theater as its SSI-FWTS.&quot; So which is the senior command? One is higher than the other and you don&#39;t need a memo from them. to wear it, because 670-1 states you can. After each deployment, our S-1 produced a MFR about our deployment, which included our deployment area, dates encompassing the deployment, authorization for SSI-FWTS, and award given. That way it was a document you could keep in your record and was sign by our BN CDR.

2017-04-15T04:43:37-04:00 2017-04-15T04:43:37-04:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 2496583

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Reading the details you lay out, I interpret the correct SSI-FWS as your parent organization since your parent battalion is also in theater. If your company had gone alone as an element smaller than company-sized to theater and been attached to 18th ABNC or 1st ID as a round out or augmentation to either organization, you would have a case that you should wear whichever you were attached to.<br /><br />Here is a question for you: unless something changed, Jordan is not a hostile fire area. If that is still the case, you may have some Soldiers that earn combat patches (the ones that are forward) and some that do not.

2017-04-15T17:31:37-04:00 2017-04-15T17:31:37-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 5996769

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know this post is old but I&#39;m hoping someone can shed some light on a very similar situation.<br /><br />My squad was deployed to Afghanistan and we fall into the same category as you.<br /><br />We are a reserve unit and our &quot;company&quot; was deployed to Kuwait. Now, our company further deployed my squad to Afghanistan. Therefore the company is not in the same theater. To make matters more vague, the TCS order we were given does not place us under any direct chain of command nor were we OPCON or ADCON to anyone. We did however report to and work for USFOR-A. Thus we were rewarded the USFOR-A patch because of line a.4(c) in the reg stating how we were a squad with no intermediate unit in the deployed area; thus we wear the theater command. <br /><br />Now upon returning to Kuwait our leadership to include BN and BDE is telling us we need to wear the patch our Reserve Company belongs to. However, my argument is that, while the company was deployed to Kuwait (which does not qualify for SSI FWTS after 31 Dec 2014), my squad was deployed to Afghanistan and placed directly under a major theatre element.<br /><br />Thoughts?

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