CPO Jon Campbell228044<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I tried to order a ribbon set on-line and the rack builder informed me that I could not have 4 gold stars and an O device on my Meritorious Team Commendation ribbon. I checked the manual, but I couldn't find any prohibition against having more than 4 devices. How do you properly wear a ribbon with an O and 5 awards? I have always put 2 stars on each side of the O.Wearing a ribbon with more than 4 devices2014-09-04T18:40:19-04:00CPO Jon Campbell228044<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I tried to order a ribbon set on-line and the rack builder informed me that I could not have 4 gold stars and an O device on my Meritorious Team Commendation ribbon. I checked the manual, but I couldn't find any prohibition against having more than 4 devices. How do you properly wear a ribbon with an O and 5 awards? I have always put 2 stars on each side of the O.Wearing a ribbon with more than 4 devices2014-09-04T18:40:19-04:002014-09-04T18:40:19-04:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member230178<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>they probably can't properly place them. have you tried other vendors? i would suggest either dropping the "O" or just using regular ribbons.Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2014 11:24 AM2014-09-06T11:24:47-04:002014-09-06T11:24:47-04:00SFC Mark Merino230210<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="71342" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/71342-cpo-jon-campbell">CPO Jon Campbell</a> In the Army, we could only use up to 4 appurtenances on a reward. I believe that is universal for all services since the Dept of Heraldry is DOD. I ran into the same issue at the 10 Army Achievement mark. If silver is "5" and then the bronze only included "4" ....Then you either max out at 4 appurtenances or 9 awards. According to our beloved AR 670-1 the solution, as insane as it sounds, is to wear a second award. Your Meritorious Team Commendation ribbon with all the chatchkies comes first, and then the slick one immediately follows suit (in the lessor award position). I am sans coffee at the moment so if I am vague, put me on blast and I'll clarify. Try not being so high speed and you won't run into these issues....lolResponse by SFC Mark Merino made Sep 6 at 2014 11:53 AM2014-09-06T11:53:41-04:002014-09-06T11:53:41-04:00CMC Robert Young230236<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Jon, that's a new one for me. I've seen a number of people w/ five devices on their ribbons, typically as you say a combination of operational "O"s and stars denoting subsequent awards. Thinking maybe the vendor isn't up to speed on what is allowed.Response by CMC Robert Young made Sep 6 at 2014 12:14 PM2014-09-06T12:14:01-04:002014-09-06T12:14:01-04:00CMSgt Mark Lewis335271<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In the Air Force, the AFI guidance is you can only wear four devices on any one decoration/ribbon. If and when you have more awards then you wear a second decoration/ribbon of the same type.Response by CMSgt Mark Lewis made Nov 20 at 2014 11:36 AM2014-11-20T11:36:48-05:002014-11-20T11:36:48-05:00Cpl Christopher Bishop600062<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would think the O-Device is either junior to, or senior to, the 4 stars, thus either way it should be on an end of the ribbon, not the center.<br /><br />If you earned 5 of the same award, the ribbon counts as the First, the 4 stars are re-awards 2-3-4-5. How many of them were earned as also assigned the O device?<br /><br />Im not any official rulebook here, but my gut-check says if I had 5 awards, and 3 were with the device, and 2 were not, then it seems wearing 2 of the same ribbon next to each other, the junior having 1 star, and the senior having 2 stars AND the O-Device wouldn't be unreasonable. I say this simply out of not "overstating" that ALL of them were warranting the device.<br /><br />I have seem 2 Bronze Star ribbons worn similarly, the senior having the V Device (valor), the other plain. But I confess that just because I've SEEN it doesn't necessarily mean its fully correct (and I'm talking about well-intentioned military folks, don't get me started on the Stolen Valor asshats).<br /><br />Anyone is welcome to point out where I got this wrong, from an actual Regs perspective, if you are indeed able.Response by Cpl Christopher Bishop made Apr 18 at 2015 6:19 AM2015-04-18T06:19:14-04:002015-04-18T06:19:14-04:00SGT Rick Ash1145406<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Go to the nearest ARMY post, to the PX/BX and buy your rack. Hopefully they will also have some input but I personally would do what you have outlined.<br />Thanks,<br />RickResponse by SGT Rick Ash made Dec 2 at 2015 2:35 PM2015-12-02T14:35:32-05:002015-12-02T14:35:32-05:00SSgt Michael Cox1150890<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know for my AF Outstanding Unit Award since I have a Valor pin and just under the amount to switch from bronze to my third silver device on the ribbon I had to add a second ribbon of the same type next to it which is authorized.Response by SSgt Michael Cox made Dec 4 at 2015 2:00 PM2015-12-04T14:00:06-05:002015-12-04T14:00:06-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member2997270<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not sure about the coast guard, but in the Army you wear a second ribbon. Let's say you earn a 10th AAM (Army Achievement Medal), you can't wear a silver oakleaf and 4 bronze oakleaf (9+Ribbon=10) so you would wear one ribbon with a silver oak leaf and 3 bronze oakleaf (equals 9) and the 10th award would be a blank ribbon to the wearers left of the other AAM.Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2017 9:44 PM2017-10-13T21:44:13-04:002017-10-13T21:44:13-04:00CW3 Kevin Storm2999380<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I guess you have to wait for the platinum version to come out?Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Oct 14 at 2017 7:23 PM2017-10-14T19:23:41-04:002017-10-14T19:23:41-04:00MSG David Johnson3344310<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was curious as to what the O device was so I googled it. This is what Wikipedia has to say about the CG O device.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_Distinguishing_Device">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_Distinguishing_Device</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default">
<div class="pta-link-card-picture">
<img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/261/807/qrc/wikipedia-wordmark-en.png?1518376383">
</div>
<div class="pta-link-card-content">
<p class="pta-link-card-title">
<a target="blank" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_Distinguishing_Device">Operational Distinguishing Device - Wikipedia</a>
</p>
<p class="pta-link-card-description">The Operational Distinguishing Device ("O" device) is a miniature silver 516 inch letter "O" that is authorized by the United States Coast Guard as a ribbon device[1]which may be authorized for wear on certain awards and decorations of the United States Coast Guard.[2]</p>
</div>
<div class="clearfix"></div>
</div>
Response by MSG David Johnson made Feb 11 at 2018 2:13 PM2018-02-11T14:13:04-05:002018-02-11T14:13:04-05:002014-09-04T18:40:19-04:00