What are the consequences for failing a diagnostic PT test?

2019-04-09T18:19:55-04:00

Long story short, I’m on a long-term temporary profile. Took a diagnostic per the commanders instruction and passed. Took the record and failed. Now my CO wants me to take two more diagnostic pt tests before I take my second record. Can I be punished for failing a diagnostic after I failed my first record pt test?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2019 6:25 PM

2019-04-09T18:25:57-04:00

The Commander can have you take a Diagnostic whenever they so choose to. This isn't punishment. This is to see if improvement is being made. Also, this is normal for units to order Diagnostics monthly until a Passing happens. This is also considered Remedial PT. Which is also within their realm and normal.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2019 6:38 PM

2019-04-09T18:38:45-04:00

Do you understand what a diagnostic test is? Technically there is no such thing, it is a not for record test, but it can be used to identify problem areas. Your commander is actually doing you a service in having you take these tests prior to your next record. It might be better to think of them as practice tests to see where you need to "study" more before taking the exam that counts.

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Apr 9 at 2019 7:51 PM

2019-04-09T19:51:16-04:00

My advice, never, ever, ever, fail a pt test. Once you get comfortable with the idea that failing is ok because something doesn't seem important enough, that starts an erosion of personal standards. Never, ever, fail a test of any kind, especially a pt test.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 9 at 2019 8:32 PM

2019-04-09T20:32:05-04:00

Consequences are having to do more PT and more diagnostics, sweat when you fail again- and they want to Chapter you.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Apr 9 at 2019 10:20 PM

2019-04-09T22:20:14-04:00

How can you take any test on a profile? After you explain this it may help fold with their responses. Thank you for your service.

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Apr 10 at 2019 8:11 AM

2019-04-10T08:11:37-04:00

First, how did you take a APFT while still on Profile? No, you won't be punished for failing a diagnostic PT test. You might get a counseling statement, but your COC can counsel you any time they please and it shouldn't be looked at as punishment. What you need to focus on is passing the second Record APFT. It will remove the flag against favorable actions AND allow the command to promote/re-enlist you if you stay qualified.

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made Jul 7 at 2019 1:08 AM

2019-07-07T01:08:06-04:00

Get out.