What are the penalties for a civilian living with a soldier in the barracks?

Paul Horn — Sun, 24 May 2020 17:17:42 -0400

Soldier is E5

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2020 5:29 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 24 May 2020 17:29:58 -0400

For the civilian, just being kicked off base.
For the Soldier, it's up to thr chain of command. Anything from nothing to court martial.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2020 5:30 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 24 May 2020 17:30:14 -0400

Are you the Civilian in question? If yes, you are not legally allowed to live within the Military Barracks. The barracks are rated for safety reasons to a specific capacity, usually not to exceed a 2 per suite. Only individuals stationed and assigned to the specific unit are allowed to reside within the barracks. However, per unit policy, there may be a visitor policy which establishes visitor rules and what can and cant be done. There are usually visitation hours for the Barracks and a violation of the unit policy may and can result in the soldier being Punished under UCMJ.

It is in your best interest to avoid any UCMJ to marry individual and receive on post housing

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made May 24 at 2020 6:42 PM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Sun, 24 May 2020 18:42:20 -0400

First off, don’t do it. It’s against regulations.

Now that we covered that the penalties can vary. It can be as small as a shouting match and formal counseling for the active duty member up to NJP and a formal trespass and blacklist for onbase access to the civilian .

Response by SGT David Goodno made May 24 at 2020 10:28 PM

SGT David Goodno — Sun, 24 May 2020 22:28:04 -0400

Civillian gets escorted off post;the soldier cold get 4856, and/or article-15 for violation of regulations.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2020 5:45 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 25 May 2020 05:45:13 -0400

We recently had a soldier continuously bring her husband into the barracks, and he would stay there with her. Her commander had found out, and warned them to stop (a few times) but they chose to ignore him. After our 1SG found out he was still being snuck on post & in the barracks, he called the MPs and did what he had to to get the husband banned from post. I’m unsure what consequences the SM will be facing, it’s still up in the air as of now.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2020 12:08 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 25 May 2020 12:08:15 -0400

Trespassing charges. Barred from base. That will depend on a lot of factors. That's just for the civilian. The Soldier could face a slew of penalties/charges.

Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made May 25 at 2020 1:31 PM

SSG Robert Perrotto — Mon, 25 May 2020 13:31:26 -0400

The Sergeant should have read Barracks policies before making this decision. Second I think I am smelling some revenge type shit from one of or a few of the Soldiers this Sergeant leads. Either way, This Sergeant should have known better then to bring a civilian into the barracks with the intent of co habitation. This also supports my theory that NCO's should not be living in the same barracks as the lower enlisted. Not because of situations like this, but because both the lower enlisted and the NCO's need some separation time.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 25 at 2020 7:24 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 25 May 2020 19:24:02 -0400

THe civilian could be charged and barred permanently from the post. The service member charged with violating regulations and possibly demoted.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made May 26 at 2020 4:49 PM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Tue, 26 May 2020 16:49:28 -0400

There's no way I see this as a good idea. Barracks are intended for Service Member's residence. Policy and local directives usually prohibit anybody who is not a Service Member from staying overnight in a barracks room; more specifically, the Service Member assigned to the room. I'm sure the Service Member could face disciplinary action for having a person living in their room.

My recommendation is for the civilian to get out now. If the Service Member and said civilian want to live together, then the need to talk with a chaplain or JAG or both.

Response by CMSgt Marshall Ray made May 27 at 2020 1:01 AM

CMSgt Marshall Ray — Wed, 27 May 2020 01:01:16 -0400

I thru the airman out of the service and the young lady was hauled off to jail for bad checks. The scum was shacking with the fiancé of one of my best while he was deployed across the pond. The commotion I caused at o dark thirty when I kicked the door in with the security police let everyone know that conduct was not acceptable.

Response by TSgt George Austin made Sep 5 at 2021 10:14 PM

TSgt George Austin — Sun, 05 Sep 2021 22:14:14 -0400

Join the Air Farce. Visiting hours were 24/7. Just make sure you share with your roomie so they do not bitch. Oh and make sure your guest is of legal age!!

Response by SSG Sidney Galloway made Nov 25 at 2021 3:55 AM

SSG Sidney Galloway — Thu, 25 Nov 2021 03:55:32 -0500

As previously mentioned, the visitor can, and likely will be banned from post. A soldier in my platoon at FTCKY had his girlfriend living with him in the barracks. He rigged his wall locker so that it looked like it was locked all the time, but only truly locked from the inside. During work hours, if she heard noises in the hallway, she'd lock herself in the wall locker. HE went from SPC(P) to PV2, and she wound up dumping him because "she don't date no Privates."