What are the possible and the most likely consequences of not Attending the Annual Training after being listed on the group order ?

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 10:15:18 -0400

What are the consequences of not Attending the Annual Training after being on the group order ? Will I be discharged or will I have to pay back the bonus or drill pays ?

I have never had unsatisfactory participation and even maxed out the MUTAs in the past year.
I tried submitting the 4187 for excuses and explained to CoC (SL and PSG), but no success.
They keep saying battalion has not approved it. I thought unit commander was responsible for this. I also heard of the leaders initiating missing movement packet if failed to show up. Not sure what that involves.
Any thoughts or advice on this is much appreciated.

Response by SSG Laurie Mullen made Jul 3 at 2019 10:27 AM

SSG Laurie Mullen — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 10:27:37 -0400

Why don't you want to attend AT? You may have maxed out MUTAs, but there is training that is conducted during AT that many times cannot be effectively completed during a weekend.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 3 at 2019 10:28 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 10:28:19 -0400

Missing movement, possibly UCMJ. Bre minimum you won't receive credit for it and this year won't count as a good year for retirement purposes. It's at the discretion of your commander.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 3 at 2019 10:36 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 10:36:56 -0400

The unit commander is the authority for granting authorized absence or SUTA. In most cases that authority is pulled up to Battalion Commander for Annual Training.Failing to report to the first day or any one day of AT is grounds for an AWOL discharge.
If you were told your request was not approved, then you were responsible for reporting to AT. Your unit will send you an AWOL notification Letter of Instruction.
That letter instructs you to provide a valid excuse for your unauthorized absence. Your commander has the discretion to accept your excuse as valid and authorize the absence after the fact, or decide that it is not valid and proceed with either discharging you or transferring you to the IRR.

Response by CPO Clifford Henry made Jul 3 at 2019 5:31 PM

CPO Clifford Henry — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 17:31:24 -0400

You signed the contract saying you’d do XYZ, so just do it. You’re job is required to allow you to go so other than an emergency situation, I can’t see anything that prevents a reserve member from attending ADT.

Response by MSG Pat Colby made Jul 3 at 2019 7:40 PM

MSG Pat Colby — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 19:40:22 -0400

Go to AT or you might as well remove that (P) from your Rank.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 4 at 2019 3:38 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Jul 2019 03:38:05 -0400

Annual Training is usually when you get majority of your bullets done for your enlisted performance report. It’s very crucial that you participate. I’m not sure what’s going on but you should think long and hard about it.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 4 at 2019 10:20 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Jul 2019 10:20:09 -0400

Go to AT SPC Lama or risk being PVT Lama next month. I suspect if the excuse was good enough we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Response by Devansh Chaurasiya made Jul 5 at 2019 2:30 AM

Devansh Chaurasiya — Fri, 05 Jul 2019 02:30:06 -0400

you should never miss trainings..its great way to get in mind of seniors and show them that u r sincere ... as sincere as this..

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 9 at 2019 4:29 PM

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:29:56 -0400

Thank you all for your valuable opinion here. I have decided to go to AT, and save myself from dealing with the undoing of the nasty consequences. My pain in civilian life is there to deal with when I come back.

Also confirmed by reading AR 135 - 91 Chapter 4.
It is really up to the commander who will slap you with excuse or Article 15 or undoing Article 15 when we get back.
Better not having a bad record at all.