What are the pros and cons of a Clinton presidency? What are the pros and cons of a Trump presidency?

2016-09-08T12:28:26-04:00

Ok, RP. The two month countdown to the 2016 election begins today. Primaries are the crawl phase, and campaigning is the walk phase. This is the running phase of the election. Lots of talk has been directed at who would make a better commander in chief, but which candidate has the skills of a chief executive? Which candidate is likely to address egalitarian concerns of the general electorate? What is the public looking for this election cycle?

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Sep 8 at 2016 12:32 PM

2016-09-08T12:32:26-04:00

There are no PROs to a Clinton presidency.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2016 1:17 PM

2016-09-08T13:17:51-04:00

While I'm no Trump fanboy, I simply can't get behind someone who has proven herself to have no integrity no matter how much experience she has. Let's face it, both sides of the aisle have placed the country into the position we are currently in so why not try out a non-lawyer/politician and try a businessmen for a change. If he fails, vote him out in 4 years.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2016 1:35 PM

2016-09-08T13:35:53-04:00

IMV, there is only one pro (for Trump) and one con (for the cuckquean). That is the Supreme Court. We can weather Trump for 4/8 years ... and perhaps even weather the cuckquean for 4/8 years. What will destroy us as a nation as we know it is the liberal SCOTUS that would result from a Democrat in the White House next year. It's the SCOTUS, Stupid!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2016 1:39 PM

2016-09-08T13:39:27-04:00

Its all about the supreme court, and for that reason alone I can't even consider a Republican this cycle (and Trump is no Republican).

We have thirty years of conservative majority on the Supreme Court, and I will be very happy to see thirty years of the other side, protecting abortion rights and reestablishing the very damaged wall of separation between church and state.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Sep 8 at 2016 1:43 PM

2016-09-08T13:43:28-04:00

Pro, With the exception of her bra size we know everything.
Con, some one will post her bra size!

Response by PO2 Robert Aitchison made Sep 8 at 2016 1:48 PM

2016-09-08T13:48:46-04:00

I can't think of a single "pro" for either of them.

The list of "cons" from a potential Trump presidency on the other hand:
1. Directly advocated the committing of war crimes (stealing other nations national resources, targeting terrorists families).
2. Directly advocated violating the constitution.
3. Advocated "casual" use of nuclear weapons.

That's just the top 3 (IMO) reasons why despite the fact that I've hated Hillary for almost 25 years and think she'll probably be the worst President in my lifetime I'd MUCH rather see her win come November. Hillary will be bad for our country, Trump would literally destroy it.

Response by PFC Jessi West made Sep 8 at 2016 1:54 PM

2016-09-08T13:54:46-04:00

I am going to chose Trump, because of his straight forward approaches.

Response by SSG Tom Pike made Sep 8 at 2016 2:11 PM

2016-09-08T14:11:13-04:00

Pro's to a Clinton Presidency - None
Pro's to a Trump Presidency - He's not Clinton.

That's about it.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Sep 8 at 2016 2:15 PM

2016-09-08T14:15:54-04:00

This is virtually impossible to answer in the manner you expect. We never really know what to "expect". We vote more on hope (not the kind of "hope" that Obama promised). As I see it now, I don't have a clue of what to expect from a Trump Administration. I wish that he would publish his slate of Cabinet Officers. That would help. I fully expect a continuation of the main feature of the Obama Administration if Hillary is elected; specifically, a failure to take responsibility. Obama is infamous for ducking responsibility and so is Hillary. To be fair, I was astounded when she sort of took responsibility for her vote on the Iraq war, but then restored my faith by immediately distancing herself from it. What we need now more than ever is a sense of responsibility in the White House. Responsibility is a fundamental American trait. How can we trust any citizen with freedom if they won't take responsibility for their actions? How can we then trust a President who won't take responsibility for their decisions?

Response by SFC Adam Potter made Sep 8 at 2016 3:26 PM

2016-09-08T15:26:01-04:00

Con with Clinton: She's not Gary Johnson
Con with Trump: He's not Gary Johnson
Do the right thing, #VoteGaryJohnson #VoteLibertarian

Response by SSgt Dustin Coy made Sep 8 at 2016 4:53 PM

2016-09-08T16:53:22-04:00

The only "pro" I see in either of them winning, is that the other one didnt...

Response by SFC George Smith made Sep 8 at 2016 5:20 PM

2016-09-08T17:20:29-04:00

there is NO way the United States of America will benefit from Another Clinton Presidency...
At Best we will end up under The Direction of the Damn UN at worse.... 1776 Part II
HRC has already displayed her willingness to sellout this Nation to the Highest bidder. She is already on the Hook to The Saudi's and the Chi-Coms who have been the Clintons Back pocket since 1995... and is already bowing to The Islamists, part of which BO has started...
Bluntly... with her in power... We , as a Nation, are Screwed...

At least with the loose Cannon Trump in Charge, we will not Be Speaking Chinese or Bowing to Mecca 5 times a day...

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2016 6:19 PM

2016-09-08T18:19:48-04:00

there are none when it comes to Trump. and Hilary? well she has experience and potentially could be a decent Commander in CHief. that's all I got .

Response by SSgt Michael Hacker made Sep 8 at 2016 8:21 PM

2016-09-08T20:21:47-04:00

Gary Johnson is the lesser of BOTH evils.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2016 8:50 PM

2016-09-08T20:50:43-04:00

Clinton: Professional Con artist

Response by Capt Michael Greene made Sep 8 at 2016 9:53 PM

2016-09-08T21:53:41-04:00

HRC would mostly be just another Democratic president, attempting to solve all our problems by "doing the right thing." DJT would be a totally new, never before seen Trumpist president, trying to run Congress like they work for him, and discovering that the promises he made in the campaign are largely either Constitutionally illegal, morally unethical, or just plain unAmerican.

The public is split. The screaming loud minority that calls itself the Silent Majority is looking for a stern father-figure to roar and scare all the minorities and foreigners away. The majority just want the Congress to get back to governance; like funding the CDC to fight the Zika epidemic, taking charge of the coalition against ISIS, and encouraging the establishment of new, permanent, fair paying jobs.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2016 11:40 PM

2016-09-08T23:40:28-04:00

Stein and Johnson aren't serious candidates, and the latter has demonstrated a fundamental lack of knowledge of foreign policy topics that I cannot excuse.

Trump, or more aptly his supporters, have directly demonstrated positions that would do tangible harm to me and mine, particularly the triple-whammy of 1) not being Christian, 2) being raised Jewish, and 3) being gay. You may say a 'liberal SCotUS' would be terrible, but I counter with the problems that another Scalia-like justice would cause.

All that's left is Hillary.

As an aside: I find it most ironic that the 'hell in a hand basket' crew happens to be the same one by and large dominating the legislatures up and down the scale of government.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2016 12:28 AM

2016-09-09T00:28:01-04:00

Tons of stuff and not one single thing. And, Ditto.

Response by SFC Alfred Galloway made Sep 9 at 2016 9:56 AM

2016-09-09T09:56:22-04:00

MAJ Andrew Fishkin about 17 hours
SFC Alfred Galloway - Ah, your OWN research, I think I'll take my legal education, my experience, my research and media sources that I trust over YOUR research, but thank you for playing. I am sorry though, when I see someone who continues to place blame for A SURPRISE TERRORIST ATTACK exclusively on the presidential candidate for the opposition party DESPITE EIGHT CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS finding no wrongdoing, well that person pretty much loses credibility with me.

Welcome to my special Benghazi Dead Horse Beaters block list.

You see Maj Fiskin blocking me is just one liberal immature turd action. you are pitiful, and sadly you are the problem not I nor folks like myself. Grow the fuck up and stop smoking the hooka

Response by SSgt Paul Esquibel made Sep 9 at 2016 10:27 AM

2016-09-09T10:27:57-04:00

Well to quote Dinesh D'Souza "With Clinton we know what she has done and what she will probably do and with Trump we don't know anything because he hasn't done anything" that in a nutshell is what we have for our country.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Sep 9 at 2016 12:10 PM

2016-09-09T12:10:38-04:00

Like listening for four years. I can't get anything done because I'm a Woman.

Response by MAJ Derrick J. made Sep 15 at 2016 12:26 PM

2016-09-15T12:26:26-04:00

Under a Trump presidency America will be respected again and Trump will do what's right for our veterans and the military. Hillary would continue the gutting of America's military and downgrade America as a superpower.

Response by LTC Dave Lewis made Sep 15 at 2016 4:57 PM

2016-09-15T16:57:58-04:00

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/23/bill-weld-libertarian-vp-nominee-equates-ar-15-wea/

Bill Weld, Libertarian VP nominee, equates AR-15s with weapons of mass destruction

Bill Weld, the Libertarian vice presidential candidate — who by definition should be standing up for individual liberties — came down hard on firearms in an interview with Revolt TV, comparing AR-15 rifles with weapons of mass destruction.

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Sep 16 at 2016 12:06 AM

2016-09-16T00:06:28-04:00

Clinton, zero pros, cons many, liberal chief justices, 2nd amendment rights to bear arms would be ratically changed, foriegn policy debacles like Benghazi, breaching security with emails and unauthorized servers that would have thrown me and you in jail ....Trump Many pros...he will take care of the military and vets. Retirees will start getting cola raises in their RAS etc...

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Sep 16 at 2016 12:12 AM

2016-09-16T00:12:08-04:00

CPT Private RallyPoint Member Not to digress; could 'we' trust HRC to not make accommodations to other nations based ? on their, (or a surrogate's), past, current or future promises/contributions to the Clinton Foundation?

Response by SPC Margaret Higgins made Sep 17 at 2016 12:07 PM

2016-09-17T12:07:06-04:00

Very, VERY good question, Captain. CPT Private RallyPoint Member
-Good Morning to You!
-Margaret

Response by SSgt Michael Hacker made Sep 22 at 2016 3:40 PM

2016-09-22T15:40:35-04:00

Pros:
Trump: Not Clinton
Clinton: Not Trump

Cons:
Trump: Trump
Clinton: Clinton

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2016 1:48 PM

2016-09-29T13:48:46-04:00

Unfortunately this election cycle, there is one issue that, IMV, trumps (PI) all others. The SCOTUS. We know generally what Trump would nominate. We know generally what the cuckquean would nominate. From my viewpoint:

Trump positives include his lack of political "debt", his positions on most issues, and his probable Supreme Court picks.
Trump negatives include his lack of political experience and his tendency to shoot from the hip.

Clinton positives include her gender, her pragmatism, her experience, and the fact that she has been tested.
Clinton negatives include her husband, her failure of most of her tests, her positions on some issues, her inability to "unite" so much as two horny rabbits, and her probable Supreme Court picks.

To paraphrase James Carville from Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign ... "It's the Supreme Court, Stupid!"

Only one choice - Trump

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Oct 4 at 2016 7:37 PM

2016-10-04T19:37:01-04:00

One will marry a younger woman, and the other will torture a bunch of men in congress..

Response by MSG Dale Day made Dec 15 at 2019 6:17 AM

2019-12-15T06:17:57-05:00

President Trump is one of the finest leaders this nation has ever had. He's slowly undoing all the damage done by Obama and career politicians. God bless him.