Posted on Dec 19, 2015
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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What are the reasons that Service Members with PTSD, TBI, or Severely Disabled will not try new services to get help?

I have a number of questions within this post that I would like to get everyone's input on from a professional standpoint. I also have some very important information for veterans and service members that need help and want to keep it anonymous!

As you know I lost a Father-in-Law (Vietnam Veteran diagnoised with PTSD) to Suicide on Tuesday, 8 December 2015 and he was buried on 16 December 2015 in Killeen, TX with full military honors! It is importand to me and the RallyPoint Members that are working with me and Virtual World Solutions to help stop this waive of suicides due to PTSD, TBI, and many other factors affecting our service members (including MST).

Please check the survey box - need the input please!

RP Memebers there are so many new services out there today for individuals that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, and that are Severely Disabled - how do we get them to feel comfortable about any one service or methodology?

Here is a nice evening program every Sunday called: "Warrior for Life" (WFL) Group Suport. This is now a part of Victory for Veterans Foundation. We stay connected (7) days a week on SKYPE with our group members. We welcome Veterans, Active Duty Service Members, Military Family Members, and Civilians that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, MST, and other disabilities to join us on Sunday evenings.

Please connect with me first on SKYPE at: mikel.burroughs

Have a short BIO about yourself ready to go and then I'll add you to the group with a Welcoming Message. You can get to know others via text first and then join us on Sunday evenings. If you want to join the Video Conference just to observe, you can turn off video and audio and just observe until you feel comfortable with the group. All of our members are members of RallyPoint and we've been meeting now going on two (2) years now.

We have members from all over the world and United States, so come join us for this one hour of group support each week.

Here is how you can join this Sunday to just listen in if you want to or any Sunday in the future:

Warrior for Life Group Support Sunday night at 8:00 PM EST (7:00 PM CST) 6:00 PM MST & 5:00 PM PST!

COL (R) Mikel Burroughs is inviting you to a RingCentral meeting.

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SSG Warren Swan
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Fear, Fear, Fear, and more Fear. I HATED with a RENEWED passion having to explain to another doctor what happened, being forced to relieve it, begin treatment, build trust in that Doctor, just to find him or her PCS'sing. It's infuriating to no end, and no one wants to keep bringing it up unless you just want to be heard and "like" hearing how "cool" you were while deployed. If there was a sure fied way to drop the memories and triggers, I might consider it, but I don't think I'd do it. All my suffering was for a reason. God said so, and he expects me to figure it out no matter how hard it may be. So if Jesus can carry a cross knowing he's going to do this for my sins, I can carry my burden and find ways to help others lessen theirs. On a second note, the BEST therapy I ever had was immersion therapy. Hands down anger through the roof, feelings all over the place, folks ready to fight each other, but as it went on, you could see the light bulbs turning on, and folks beginning to accept what was being taught, and making strides to learn. Alas the Army thought it was too long, and all of us were removed at the 45 day mark. The worst BAR NONE was electrotherapy. Placing two leads on your ear lobes and having a current run through your head, was funny, but unless you just like 20 minutes of being a veggie, best to pass on that one. My therapy now is talking with my peers and getting their advice on coping skills. I find they are some of the best to talk to and have some great ideas that worked for them, and I don't have to explain myself ever. COL you even reached out to me. While I was skeptical of the site when I visited it, I know the man who told me to go there and look was of outstanding character. There needs to be more like you, and there are, they're just quiet.
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Sgt John H.
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electro-shock therapy, misdiagnosis, loss of employment, depression....Labeled as a psych patient in VA medical records...
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CSM Command Sergeant Major
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Could not have said it better SSG Swan
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SSgt James Tadlock
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I don't know of anybody who would seek help with this on their own accord. SSG Swan said everything that could be said. BTW I knew a guy with the name Tom Swan from Illinois. He was a firecracker. He could run like the wind blows. He got the necessary parts and built his own tape recorder/player at the hobby shop. His job was working on the electronic components for the tail guns for B-52's (Fire Control).
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SPC Todd Rhoades
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SSG Warren Swan I have not seen combat, though I have left home with the fear of not returning. I have seen horrible things in both training and the civilian world, including my own family.
I believe you are on the right track with your thoughts on immersion therapy. The human mind has great ability to suppress things while we are conscious and attempts to heal while we are sleeping, thus nightmares. I have found also that while awake and with people who can "relate" , no one can truly understand how you feel, they are not you, and we all "feel" differently, if you dig deep and release these emotions, you can then start to deal with them.
As far as God wanting you to suffer, that is as far from true as any statement ever made. It is simply a test, leading to a revalation in His path for you. I am not going to get on a stump and start thumping a Bible here, not my way. All the scripture in the Book, does no good, if it's not interpreted right. What I will do is say, keep fighting, find a brother that can relate, there are many here, and always, always remember this: It is a strong man that can admit his shortcomings and ask for help, we are not meant to walk this life alone.
As I stated before, I can't understand, but I can relate. And I am here.

Keep humpin, home is only a couple clics away, reach out and I will help you carry the load.

You are loved, both by your brothers and your Lord.
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan
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I think that people are afraid of being labeled (worse than they already are), having their rights to handle their own finances or their right to own a gun taken from them by some bureaucrat. Our government (all of them) has repeatedly lied (and continue to do so) to us, unless they are seeking votes. I am sure there are many other factors, but in the end, it comes down to trust...there is no trust in our elected public officials.
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PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM
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Sgt Martin Querin - What state are you in?? I have never been asked that question. and only a fool would answer in the affirmative.
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MCPO Roger Collins
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I don't view this as a yes/no question, but a rather strange one.
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Sgt Martin Querin
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PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM - LOL, you should be able to guess...California. No more crazy than asking if you've been convicted of a felony, or under a constraint order, and I have FFL friends that say they have had people answer those questions in the affirmative, which of course results in immediate disqualification.
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PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM
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Sgt Martin Querin - Time for you tomove OUT of the Kommunist Stake of Kalofornia and back in to the Free States of America. The liberal Idiots under Moonbeam Brown have really screwed that state into the ground. It used to be a nice place when everyone was just high as a kite.
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SPC Margaret Higgins
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Oftentimes, it is the psychiatric disability itself, that tells the service member that they don't need the help....and/or want it.
In my case, it's a matter of confidentiality. I don't trust most people in the world; with my story.
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SPC Margaret Higgins
SPC Margaret Higgins
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Casey Francia - I appreciate, greatly, your candor. I am so very, very glad that you don't hate your PTSD anymore. Being aware, insightful and honest with yourself: are Great things. Casey, Congratulations on being the you that you are.
-With My Love, Margaret
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SPC Margaret Higgins
SPC Margaret Higgins
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Casey Francia - Casey, Honey, you don't want your PTSD to take over who you are. You are a wonderful, valuable, very intelligent lady. I applaud you for all of that. -With My Love, Margaret
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SPC Margaret Higgins
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Casey Francia - Casey, Hon', I have PTSD. I have trouble with my anger; at times. I also have terrible nightmares. But the main thing, Casey, is to Not allow your PTSD to Define you. -With the Very Best of My Love for You, Margaret
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