Posted on Apr 23, 2015
What are your thoughts on President Obama accepting responsibility for the deaths of American hostages during operations in Afghanistan?
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What are your thoughts on this latest press conference with President Obama?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/23/politics/white-house-hostages-killed/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/23/politics/white-house-hostages-killed/index.html
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Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) - Afghanistan Responsibility Drones Office of the President (POTUS)
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As President, he is ultimately responsible. It goes with the job.
Did he have personal control of the operation? Could he realistically have prevented it? NO... But he is still has to accept the responsibility that comes with the office he holds.
I used to tell people that the most trouble I ever got into in my career was when I was at home, in my own bed, with my own wife, fast asleep at 0200 in the morning and I was getting in deep crap and did not know it yet, because a young MP PFC was doing something really stupid at that moment. As his commander, I was responsible for what he did. Just comes with the territory.
Did he have personal control of the operation? Could he realistically have prevented it? NO... But he is still has to accept the responsibility that comes with the office he holds.
I used to tell people that the most trouble I ever got into in my career was when I was at home, in my own bed, with my own wife, fast asleep at 0200 in the morning and I was getting in deep crap and did not know it yet, because a young MP PFC was doing something really stupid at that moment. As his commander, I was responsible for what he did. Just comes with the territory.
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True, and casualties of war are an unfortunate circumstance that is hard to control and avoid.
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SSG Donald Mceuen
This time he is doing his job. I am sorry for the deaths of the hostages but we can't know
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A Leaders take full responsibilities for his or hers subordinate actions. It is imperative for a Leader to understand their needs. In the USARMY we have many ways to deal with this type of situations, of course this is in a bigger scale however; responsible leaders face the facts and start working in a solution.
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Wow! He took responsibility and did not try to blame Bush. It is times like these when I can be proud of President Obama. I can't say that I feel this very often.
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LTC John Shaw
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You and I obviously disagree on this point.
The purpose of social networking is for us to have the conversation, I appreciate your point of view. I see you are a smart person as well, you seem to have level of social compliance in your mind that I don't meet.
You don't tell me what 'standard', I am violating, because you know I am not.
The troops I lead want to see leaders, not politicians. I have the respect of my troops and my peers, I trust over time you will see my comments in RP are balanced pro and con the current administration.
There is NO UCMJ element to the commentary I have made, you seem to have a desire to make it more than it is, I am not sure why.
I don't recall the 'must make social commentary only supportive of the current administration' in the UCMJ. If your point is only be supportive of 'whatever administration or political party' is in the office, then I and many others will continuously disappoint you.
You and I obviously disagree on this point.
The purpose of social networking is for us to have the conversation, I appreciate your point of view. I see you are a smart person as well, you seem to have level of social compliance in your mind that I don't meet.
You don't tell me what 'standard', I am violating, because you know I am not.
The troops I lead want to see leaders, not politicians. I have the respect of my troops and my peers, I trust over time you will see my comments in RP are balanced pro and con the current administration.
There is NO UCMJ element to the commentary I have made, you seem to have a desire to make it more than it is, I am not sure why.
I don't recall the 'must make social commentary only supportive of the current administration' in the UCMJ. If your point is only be supportive of 'whatever administration or political party' is in the office, then I and many others will continuously disappoint you.
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LTC John Shaw
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Why we are having the conversation and why I am resisting you is EXACTLY this issue. YOU ARE TRYING TO suppress legitimate free speech. I don't want you chasing down EVERY person who makes a comment YOU VIEW as CONTEMPT to the 'current administration'.
Can't you are setting a political correctness/sensitivity standard?
Your OTS is unwelcome and unwarranted:
My remarks don't meet the standard: 1) I am not on a duty status, 2) I did not make the statements in official capacity.
Bottom Line: I will not have my social comments SUPPRESSED by a SELF-APPOINTED PC officer.
I will defend your right to make social commentary as well!
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Would you prefer we appoint Political Officers in each social forum and unit to police up any 'incorrect' conversations. It works so well in Soviet Union.
Why we are having the conversation and why I am resisting you is EXACTLY this issue. YOU ARE TRYING TO suppress legitimate free speech. I don't want you chasing down EVERY person who makes a comment YOU VIEW as CONTEMPT to the 'current administration'.
Can't you are setting a political correctness/sensitivity standard?
Your OTS is unwelcome and unwarranted:
My remarks don't meet the standard: 1) I am not on a duty status, 2) I did not make the statements in official capacity.
Bottom Line: I will not have my social comments SUPPRESSED by a SELF-APPOINTED PC officer.
I will defend your right to make social commentary as well!
Or
Would you prefer we appoint Political Officers in each social forum and unit to police up any 'incorrect' conversations. It works so well in Soviet Union.
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Sir, I feel I need to clarify. My post meant that I agreed with you. I was shocked when President Obama took responsibility for something bad.
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