What are your thoughts on Reserve to Active PSYOP?

2020-01-26T11:02:36-05:00

Ok my FINAL question: It is my understanding that 37F (along with a few other MOSs) require an ETP. My questions is what are your thoughts on a 37F3P SSG being granted an ETP if they are airborne qualified and hold a Russian, Pashto, or Chinese mandarin language?

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Jan 26 at 2020 11:48 AM

2020-01-26T11:48:51-05:00

You still need to get MOSQ, regardless of language proficiency. The thing here is:
1. Good DLPT = no need for language training (mandatory on the AD side of the house) = language pay based on score.

Response by CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana made Jan 26 at 2020 12:22 PM

2020-01-26T12:22:58-05:00

Branch qualification is required on the outset.
Airborne is nice to have and opens the doors to assignments in Airborne and SOF units anywhere the Army has needs for your skillsets.
For languages, it is best to opt for the DLPT and score 3 or better in each selected language.
Use ETPs sparingly.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2020 10:40 PM

2020-01-27T22:40:27-05:00

For E-5 business rules are open for prior service, E-6 I don't know. If it's open no ETP needed. You have to be Airborne and MOSQ for that to apply. When it comes to Prior Service you are at the needs of the Army. An ETP is only needed if it's a closed category like they aren't taking your rank or MOS or if you want or need to reclass onto active and one issue or another is keeping you from doing it. ETPs are not guaranteed but always a no if you don't ask. When it comes to recruiting things are fluid. Get your 368 and see what is open for you once it's approved. 37F may be open today and closed tomorrow, it may be open but not available now but available next week. Business rules might change next week and change again in a month. I've seen a 368 approved as fast as two weeks but usually a month or two but I've also seen them denied. If it gets denied they will give you a reason so you can make a plan to remedy whatever caused it to get denied. Nobody can say right now what business rules will be and what will be available once you get released. Start the process now and if it doesn't work out repeat as necessary. Sometimes it takes persistence. I had signed 368s three times and business rules weren't in my favor. I happened to REFRAD from AGR to IRR while business rules were in my favor. It may work for you the first time especially right now. If it's what you want go for it and don't stop until you're where you want to be. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't. If I listened to the nay sayers I wouldn't have signed the contract I just signed.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2020 10:56 PM

2020-01-27T22:56:31-05:00

While I'm not a recruiter, I don't see you having any issue with the ETP for 37F because they are always still recruiting them on Active Duty. An ETP just means that SWC, or USASOC, or 37F Proponent controls how many 37F3 that they recruit and of what quality they are, this prevents USAREC from simply flooding them with SKL3 37F and messing up their strengths and promotions.

You'll end up going to Airborne school if you don't already have it because it's required for the MOS. As for the language, you're only going to go to the SWC language school which is designed to bring you to a 1/1 level. Whatever language you get is irrelevant. On your next reenlistment, or a year or two down the road, you can request Advanced Language Training at DLI for a language you want and the Army needs. There is a language lab at Bragg and every SF Group, and you will have plenty of opportunities to try out different languages to see which one you want to study next. The only downside is that after going to DLI you have to maintain a 2/2 in that language permanently.