Posted on Dec 1, 2014
What are your views on domestic violence? Especially with Ray Rice being reinstated to play pro football?
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Just seeking everyones thoughts on the Ray Rice being reinstated to play football after clearing punching his then partner and now wife into being unconscious.
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Domestic Violence Professionalism
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This is a sensitive subject. I do not condone striking a woman, nor to I condone striking a man (in a domestic setting for both cases). The facts are that she started it, but he is stronger and a public figure. Both are equally culpable. I life ban is ridiculous on so may levels. The most important of these is that it sends a message that you can never fix something. I think a season is enough to get the message across. As Scott noted, these folks are seen as role models (which I don't get. They are entertainers and we really need to re-look at that he consider a role model to be), so a message has to be sent out. I think that a season off is appropriate for most violations (DUI, drugs, domestic violence, etc). A second offense should then be the life band, not because of the incident(s) itself, but because you did not learn your lesson the first time.
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CW4 Ray Montano
Sheri, no one is minimizing anything; however, looks like you might be maximizing it a bit. It's a crime, just like any other crime. It's a battery between people involved in a domestic relationship. What if, instead of his wife, Rice had been involved in a bar fight and knocked the other person out? What makes this crime different is that is violates a long standing societal norm; men don't hit women. Once you strip his of all emotional elements, you are left with two people that were engaged in a mutual physical altercation, in which the bigger of the two struck the decisive strike. Is it right? No. It is any different than a DUI or drug offense? No, all three are crimes. All indications are that this is the first time Rice was caught assaulting someone and no one goes to jail for a first time assault and, if you ask me, the only person that has minimized with is Mrs Rice.
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CW4 Ray Montano
Sheri, aside from some fraud crimes, there are few person crimes that can be stripped of emotion. There is; however, the reason why Ms Justice is blindfolded. For justice to work, it has to be stripped of emotion. If not, it is vengeance.
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I'm for a zero tolerance policy on domestic violence, SSG Gordon Hill, but with the intervention program (I think that's what it was called) that Rice went through, he paid his debt to society as far as the courts are concerned.
Then there's the NFL's position. They did say that the first instance of domestic violence would result in a six-game suspension (that was after they gave Rice a two-game suspension). I think the NFL handled the Rice situation poorly, and I'll bet that the NFL knew exactly what happened before it was released in that second video. That put them in a tough spot, so they over-reacted with a lifetime ban.
I think a lifetime ban is probably too harsh, but two or six games may be too lenient. Pro athletes are looked up to and idolized by many, and for that reason, I think they should set an example for the rest of society. On the one hand, a slap on the wrist for such behavior does not send a good message. On the other, a lifetime ban leaves no room for rehabilitation of the person and his career.
Maybe a one-year ban is about right, depending on the circumstances. I'm not sure. And I'm glad I'm not the guy who has to make that decision.
Then there's the NFL's position. They did say that the first instance of domestic violence would result in a six-game suspension (that was after they gave Rice a two-game suspension). I think the NFL handled the Rice situation poorly, and I'll bet that the NFL knew exactly what happened before it was released in that second video. That put them in a tough spot, so they over-reacted with a lifetime ban.
I think a lifetime ban is probably too harsh, but two or six games may be too lenient. Pro athletes are looked up to and idolized by many, and for that reason, I think they should set an example for the rest of society. On the one hand, a slap on the wrist for such behavior does not send a good message. On the other, a lifetime ban leaves no room for rehabilitation of the person and his career.
Maybe a one-year ban is about right, depending on the circumstances. I'm not sure. And I'm glad I'm not the guy who has to make that decision.
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PO2 Corey Ferretti
It seemed to me that the NFL was trying to do damage control after the video got leaked. because it was just a stream of bad news after that for the NFL like 4 players were brought up on some sort of charge with in a month of that.
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Silly, public. Don't you know the rich and famous have their own rules? Let that be a lesson to the rest of us peons: Earn a few million and smack a bitch up. No harm, no foul.
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CW4 Ray Montano
Actually Erin, I'm going with the NOT option on this one. Yes, being rich and famous has its perks (So I've been told), but it also has its draw backs. If Ray Rice was a nobody, this incident would not have made the radar. In many cases, the acts of celebrities, which tend to mirror the test of us, get elevated to the Breaking News category only because they are rich and famous. Something tells me they pay for their fame a bit more than we pay for our anonymity.
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CW4 Ray Montano
Can you imagine how much like prison it must be to not be able to do anything, without someone taking a picture. The sadder part of that they aim for taking pictures that will ultimately embarrass and expose you. It's probably kind of cool, for the first 20 days, but, after that....I can't imagine living like that. Nope, would rather be poor and unnoticed.
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I've thought about it many times CW4 Ray Montano. I had a chance, a few years back, to pose a question to someone along those lines. My husband and I got to to hang out with the band "Drowning Pool". I remember sitting across from Ryan McCombs on their tour bus. He was leaned back, eyes closed, and looked literally, dead. I asked him, "Do you ever get sick of this? Bouncing from one place to the other? Is this worth it?"
He opened his eyes, and sat, hunched over. "Sometime's I don't think it is anymore. I miss my wife and baby..."
It never even occurred to me to take pictures, but of course, someone had to document their nearly every move.(Like the picture someone made of Stevie Benton in my car) the tour bus was their sanctuary, and I didn't feel that I had the right to violate it.
He opened his eyes, and sat, hunched over. "Sometime's I don't think it is anymore. I miss my wife and baby..."
It never even occurred to me to take pictures, but of course, someone had to document their nearly every move.(Like the picture someone made of Stevie Benton in my car) the tour bus was their sanctuary, and I didn't feel that I had the right to violate it.
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