What can be done for a soldier who was flagged multiple times for being overweight, but was never initially counseled or sent to nutrition?

LCpl Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 17:35:34 -0400

A female soldier had a kid and it took a little longer to lose the baby weight. She was flagged but never initially counseled or sent to nutrition. After a few months, she finally passed tape twice. This soldier just reenlisted for the second time and was put up for orders. She took 2 weeks of leave for the summer to visit her family and was called off of leave to do a tape test. The test failed and now a flag is back in place.

Response by CPL Gary Pifer made Aug 5 at 2019 5:47 PM

CPL Gary Pifer — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 17:47:08 -0400

Sent to Nutrition....???

Response by SP5 Dennis Loberger made Aug 5 at 2019 5:50 PM

SP5 Dennis Loberger — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 17:50:32 -0400

This seems to me to be a problem the individual soldier must address with the help of a nutritionist

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2019 6:26 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 18:26:05 -0400

Well, the old flag was a valid flag. The current flag is a valid flag. However, if the Command tries to initiate a Chapter for HT/WT, the packet is going to get rejected because the Command did not follow the required steps. And, they are not allowed/authorized to backdate counselings.

Response by 1SG Mitchell Smith made Aug 5 at 2019 6:49 PM

1SG Mitchell Smith — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 18:49:30 -0400

Commander has to do his job and initially counsel, place soldier on over weight program and nutrition program. After this it's free game according to regulation.

Response by SFC Robert Mercantini made Aug 5 at 2019 7:01 PM

SFC Robert Mercantini — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 19:01:36 -0400

Fire the squad leader and find a leader that willl do their job.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Aug 5 at 2019 7:28 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 19:28:26 -0400

Marines cannot be called off leave for the sole purpose of a tape test. The fact that she failed returning from leave appears to be indicative of a problem with controlling her weight. Bottom line is that a chapter will not be valid unless the unit followed all appropriate protocols. She should see Council. Thank you for your service.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2019 7:44 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 19:44:01 -0400

Height and weight is a transferable flag, she can still PCS with the flag in place. Since the counseling and nutritionist consults weren't completed the command won't be able to separate the Soldier until those happen.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Aug 6 at 2019 12:17 AM

SSG Brian G. — Tue, 06 Aug 2019 00:17:50 -0400

What can be done? Help her pass the tape. She is validly flagged. They cannot chapter her for it since they did not properly counsel her. They can however bar her from re-enlisting and just let that run.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2019 11:41 AM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:41:50 -0400

They won’t be able to separate her until the consults are done I don’t think.