What could prevent a soldier from getting a TSC?

CPL Aston Wrath — Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:01:13 -0400

Hello everyone,

Well, I am planning on rejoing the Army, my first time in service was as a 91B in Army Reserves. And to be honest... i was not happy with my MOS or overall career. This time i want to go back into the Army, Army National Guard to be exact. I want to be a 35P, and surprisingly I have the scores for it.

Well to get to be this MOS I have to obtain a TSC. If anyone has/had one or this MOS could you guys tell me what could prevent me from obtaing my clearence to move forward?

Thanks guys

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Aug 14 at 2021 7:32 PM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:32:13 -0400

Clearance investigations go deep. They look at criminal history and also interview people close to you to include family members, coworkers and even folks who worked at any schools you attended. They will sit down and grill folks wanting to know if you have any skeletons in the closet and whether you have any criminal or anti americans affiliations, intentions or anything else. If you have a clean record it will show and if you have any skeletons they will find them too. Good luck.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Aug 14 at 2021 7:38 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:38:54 -0400

Anything criminal, financial debt, relative relationship to bad actors, certain activity on social media, family and friends with negative affiliations as well. You won’t know until you try.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Aug 14 at 2021 9:18 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Sat, 14 Aug 2021 21:18:36 -0400

Aston it can take up to 1 yr to get a permanent TS, and months to get a temporary.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Aug 15 at 2021 3:33 AM

MAJ Byron Oyler — Sun, 15 Aug 2021 03:33:22 -0400

I realize you want to know these answers but all they will do is make you anxious. There really is nothing you can do at this point to change your history or present life that will help you with a TSC. I would delete this if you can as all the answers will do is keep you up late at night.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2021 5:07 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Aug 2021 17:07:42 -0400

35P here! Clearance process for this MOS includes the investigation and CI polygraph. They will have you fill out a list of all previous addresses, jobs, schools attended, and references. They will reach out to a few of those people and ask them several questions about your work ethic, capacity for work in the intelligence sector, and overall character. They will obviously conduct a background check that will bring up pretty much anything that may be on your record. When I was 13 I dined and dashed and spent a night in a juvenile facility. I thought it had been expunged, but they found it. During the polygraph, they'll ask you questions about your devotion to country and mission. They'll ask you about any ongoing foreign contacts or foreign business ventures you may have. They'll ask if you've ever intentionally or accidentally committed espionage. They'll ask you the same question multiple times in multiple ways to see if you'll switch up. It's very mentally taxing.

It's a thorough process because the job requires the handling of some of our nation's most sensitive data. It is best to go in with a clear mind without much expectation. Let the investigators do their job and you will soon find out if you're eligible. Good luck!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2021 9:00 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 09:00:10 -0400

The investigation is pretty invasive, sure, but they really want to know 2 things. First, how honest you are… and second, how much of a patriot you are.

If you, and everyone who knows you, truly believe you are an honest patriot, you have nothing to worry about.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2021 7:41 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 19:41:14 -0400

I did background investigations for a while and while I was never an adjudicator, there are some obvious red flags. DISHONESTY is number one. Seriously, any dishonesty is a mark against you. If you made a mistake in filling out the paperwork, that's fine. But it's not hard to tell when someone is being untruthful about things. Be honest and be remorseful if you have any issues.
Other major issues are things like severe financial issues like bankruptcy, repossession, debt delinquency, etc. If you have financial problems, resolve them now. Those make you susceptible to influence by the adversary.
any ongoing issues with the law, drugs, crime, interactions with any questionable foreign contacts or government, those are obvious problems. If it's in the past and you've rectified it, you may be just fine. But if you cover it up or still deep in those things or if they're unresolved, that can be an issue.
Basically, get your ducks in a row before you complete your paperwork.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2021 5:02 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 31 Aug 2021 17:02:43 -0400

Things that can hurt your eligibility for a clearance:
• criminal history, or excessive amount of traffic violations
• poor credit history (payment history and amount of outstanding non-collateralized debt)
• history of drug use/abuse
• bad conduct in your military file
• history of domestic abuse
• foreign national associations (long-term, close/frequent contact)