What do firearms owners think of this?

LCpl Mark Lefler — Sun, 31 May 2015 20:00:05 -0400

Read this earlier tonight, wanted to know what people thought.

The Obama administration will propose sweeping gun regulations aimed at keeping fire arms from those convicted of domestic violence and the mentally ill.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made May 31 at 2015 8:03 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Sun, 31 May 2015 20:03:19 -0400

Without seeing what the proposed law actually says, can't make any judgments.

However... It has been my experience with Gun Law (as a former gun dealer), that most Gun Law is "Ill conceived" or "Ineffective" in its stated purpose.

It does far more harm to essential Liberty than it does at actually curbing ACTUAL problems.

Response by 2d Lt Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2015 8:05 PM

2d Lt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 31 May 2015 20:05:17 -0400

I feel that unless as

Response by 2d Lt Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2015 8:07 PM

2d Lt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 31 May 2015 20:07:11 -0400

Please ignore my previous comment.. I accidentally sent it.

I believe that the right to bear arms as stated in the second amendment is no less a God-given right than the freedom of speech.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made May 31 at 2015 8:09 PM

LTC Paul Labrador — Sun, 31 May 2015 20:09:01 -0400

Lautenburg Amendment already prohibits individuals convicted of domestic violence from owning firearms....

Response by LTC John Shaw made May 31 at 2015 8:58 PM

LTC John Shaw — Sun, 31 May 2015 20:58:04 -0400

LCpl Mark Lefler Sorry after the multiple ethical issues in this administration, I don't trust any action, even if it sounds reasonable.

The founders made it the 2nd Amendment to the constitution for a reason.
The words of a President should have ZERO impact on the Constitution.

If it is so important, he needs to lead the effort through legislation or push for an Amendment, these both require compromise, which means he won't do it.

http://thehill.com/regulation/243520-administration-preps-new-gun-regulations

Administration preps new gun regulations

The Justice department is moving forward with a flurry of new rules.

Response by CPT Ahmed Faried made May 31 at 2015 9:15 PM

CPT Ahmed Faried — Sun, 31 May 2015 21:15:18 -0400

Seems like a logical move.

Response by Sgt Christopher Nappa made May 31 at 2015 9:43 PM

Sgt Christopher Nappa — Sun, 31 May 2015 21:43:37 -0400

NY did this awhile back. It makes sense

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made May 31 at 2015 9:53 PM

SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. — Sun, 31 May 2015 21:53:09 -0400

Since when are those convicted of domestic abuse or adjudicated incompetent allowed to buy weapons?

Response by SGT Jimmy Carpenter made Jun 1 at 2015 12:58 AM

SGT Jimmy Carpenter — Mon, 01 Jun 2015 00:58:55 -0400

"Mentally ill". Veterans receiving disability for PTSD will fall under that category if Obama has his way.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jun 1 at 2015 2:47 AM

PO1 John Miller — Mon, 01 Jun 2015 02:47:25 -0400

The old saying "Don't make any new laws, just enforce the ones on the books" is so applicable here!

People convicted of domestic violence already lose their firearms rights though they can get them back.

Also, at least here in Arizona (I'm not sure if it's a state or federal law) the mentally ill don't necessarily have to surrender their firearm rights. If they are committed by their doctor/hospital, etc., then yes they lose their rights. However if a person were to self-admit then no rights are taken away.

Response by SrA Johnathan Kropke made Jun 1 at 2015 8:45 AM

SrA Johnathan Kropke — Mon, 01 Jun 2015 08:45:03 -0400

I think it depends on the definition this law uses for mentally ill. There are vets with PTSD that can be considered mentally ill, even though their particular problem only exists with being antisocial. If this law becomes more specified for defining what type of domestic violence charges and mentally ill then I think it could be for the better.

Response by SMSgt Raymond Hindle made Jun 1 at 2015 10:39 AM

SMSgt Raymond Hindle — Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:39:06 -0400

How about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tEYcUSQDyw#t=11

Double Barreled 1911 pistol quad wield rapid fire! 20 rounds in 1.5 seconds in SlowMo| AF2011...

Jerry dual wields (quad wields?) 2 double barrel .45 ACP 1911 pistols made by Arsenal Firearms (AF2011) making him the first person to shoot "4" 1911 pistols...

Response by SMSgt Raymond Hindle made Jun 1 at 2015 10:53 AM

SMSgt Raymond Hindle — Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:53:50 -0400

The slippery slope, is the "mentally ill" part. We've already seen that this administration believes that veterans are a major threat. I would not surprise me to see a requirement levied for "mental health examinations", prior to discharge or retirement. Possibly making your access to benefits, and retired pay, contingent on taking that test.