SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member5958733<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do you consider the following to be stopping career progression? If a Soldier has enough TIS and TIG to be promoted, is not flagged, and meets all requirements for promotion, but PSG won't allow Soldier to put in promotion packet. Is this allowed? Does the Soldier have to be counseled since they're at primary zone, but aren't being allowed to input packet? If this is considered stopping career progression, what should the Soldier do? <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="106303" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/106303-88m-motor-transport-operator">SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL</a> SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="563704" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/563704-11a-infantry-officer">LTC Stephen F.</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1305016" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1305016-cpl-dave-hoover">CPL Dave Hoover</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="32600" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/32600-sgt-david-a-cowboy-groth">SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="278956" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/278956-15r-ah-64-attack-helicopter-repairer">SSG Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1156056" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1156056-capt-dwayne-conyers">Capt Dwayne Conyers</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="78668" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/78668-cpt-jack-durish">CPT Jack Durish</a>What do you consider as stopping career progression?2020-06-01T12:58:10-04:00SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member5958733<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do you consider the following to be stopping career progression? If a Soldier has enough TIS and TIG to be promoted, is not flagged, and meets all requirements for promotion, but PSG won't allow Soldier to put in promotion packet. Is this allowed? Does the Soldier have to be counseled since they're at primary zone, but aren't being allowed to input packet? If this is considered stopping career progression, what should the Soldier do? <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="106303" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/106303-88m-motor-transport-operator">SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL</a> SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="563704" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/563704-11a-infantry-officer">LTC Stephen F.</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1305016" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1305016-cpl-dave-hoover">CPL Dave Hoover</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="32600" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/32600-sgt-david-a-cowboy-groth">SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="278956" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/278956-15r-ah-64-attack-helicopter-repairer">SSG Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1156056" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1156056-capt-dwayne-conyers">Capt Dwayne Conyers</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="78668" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/78668-cpt-jack-durish">CPT Jack Durish</a>What do you consider as stopping career progression?2020-06-01T12:58:10-04:002020-06-01T12:58:10-04:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member5958776<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would want to ask why the Platoon Sergeant feels that a packet shouldn't be submitted.Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2020 1:08 PM2020-06-01T13:08:25-04:002020-06-01T13:08:25-04:00SFC Michael Hasbun5958820<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do they have to be counseled, yes. If a Soldier is not ready for promotion, the unit is not obligated to send them anyway, but they DO have a responsibility to counsel and mentor to address the reasons why the SM is not ready.Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jun 1 at 2020 1:21 PM2020-06-01T13:21:59-04:002020-06-01T13:21:59-04:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member5958867<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>would depend on why the SM doesn't have an NCOER. I cross leveled when I was an E5 and the school was so long that I met TIG/TIS requirements for E6 before I ever got an NCOER.Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2020 1:36 PM2020-06-01T13:36:51-04:002020-06-01T13:36:51-04:00CPO Jack De Merit5958957<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I was eligible for E-7, Chief Petty Officer, I was the only person in my rate who passed the advancement exam and was promoted. When I was eligible for E-8, Senior Chief Petty Officer, I took the exam and according to the testing center, I was the only one who passed the exam. But, along with the letter that I had passed was the explanation that I was not being advanced because of Affirmative Action. Since I had never heard of Affirmative Action, I. wrote back asking for an explanation. I was told that it was the governments way of advancing people of color because they had been neglected. They also told me who was being advanced and it was a black Chief Lithographer that I knew personally and was working with. When I told the testing center representative that I knew him and he had not worked in the printing field for more than 10 years, they said it was Ok because he was not a lithographer any more, he was an administrator and since there was only ONE BILLET AVAILABLE, he got it. I took the exam for the next two years and was told there was no billet. In the third year, I once again took the exam and passed it. The Senior Chief I knew was advanced to Master Chief so there should have been a billet available. Once again the testing center informed me that the billet he vacated was cancelled and I would not be advanced. I made E-7 on my knowledge and background in printing in just 11 years. I was told that nobody did that before. I spent 17 years and 9 months as a Chief. More years that it took me to get there. I did not let it stop me. What is ironic is that I was informed that after 28 years and 9 months my career was ending because I was not ADVANCING IN RATE. Don't ask me how that made me feel.Response by CPO Jack De Merit made Jun 1 at 2020 2:23 PM2020-06-01T14:23:12-04:002020-06-01T14:23:12-04:002020-06-01T12:58:10-04:00