What do you guys think of civilians not stopping for colors? Would you call them out or let them go?

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:25:46 -0500

A civilian didn't stop for morning colors that happens at 08 every day. Even though two vehicles were stopped on the same road. One of the vehicles pulled into his lane and called him out on it and he just called the guy an idiot for stopping him.

Response by Maj Marty Hogan made Feb 5 at 2018 11:30 AM

Maj Marty Hogan — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:30:43 -0500

If it is on base I believe they are required to. Get the plate and turn an in.

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Feb 5 at 2018 11:53 AM

SGT Joseph Gunderson — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:53:26 -0500

I think that there are already consequences for not stopping for the colors in the morning and afternoon. At least, on Army posts there is. Not stopping for the call of reveille and retreat could result in receiving a ticket. If you are a service member who doesn't do it, it can result in a ticket and potential NJP from your chain of command. As for Joe Schmo service member or vet chasing someone down to give them an earful, why? If these people don't have that respect, I just don't see how a random person stopping them and bitching at them for a few minutes is really going to change anything.

Response by SGT David T. made Feb 5 at 2018 12:51 PM

SGT David T. — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 12:51:37 -0500

I wouldn't concern myself with it. The only person's behavior I can change is my own. If I worked on a base, I would get out and stand with my hand over my heart if it was time for colors. I wouldn't concern myself with what others didn't do, assuming of course they don't run me over or hit my vehicle. Frankly, I have better things to do with my time than deal with the stupidity of others.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Feb 5 at 2018 2:24 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 14:24:28 -0500

Since not all civilians work on bases and installations, many are visitors and may not know the rules. I would simply identify myself and ask if the work on the base. If they do I would tell them what their actions should be, and if they do not I would tell them what we all do on base during those periods. For the former, if they continued with the disrespectful and rude behavior I would take their plate number to the bases SEL. Thank you for your service.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2018 3:09 PM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:09:17 -0500

Pet peeve of mine....

I Stand CDO duty about twice a Month here, and one of my details is observing Morning Colors. I wont lie I want to throw out a Spike strip for traffic, the amount of people that drive by is ludicrous. I have brought it up with the chain of command so many times I sound like a broken record. There really isn't much you can do to this these walking cluster F*%ks. Especially since I can't move till Colors is done and by then they are long gone.

I have had 2 opportunities to rip someone apart however and I took both with great gusto. Both times the offenders made excuses that they didn't hear colors playing, which is understandable as I could clearly hear their music (if you can call it that) from a fair distance away as I approached their cars. They also both stated they didn't relies what was going on and that's why they backed up and tried to detour around traffic. Yes others had stopped and these two geniuses decided they were going to find an alternate path. Both ended up in a dead end and that's how I got my knife hand into them.

There are only two things in my day I actually look forward to and that's Coffee and Colors!!!!

Response by SFC Marcus Belt made Feb 5 at 2018 4:14 PM

SFC Marcus Belt — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 16:14:25 -0500

Everybody stopping for the Colors was SOP on Ft. Hood, not so on Fort Bragg. If I were travelling and saw everyone else doing it, I'd probably be able to figure it out.

It was a civilian anyway so depending on who he was and who he works for, juice might not be worth the squeeze trying to get after him.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2018 6:25 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:25:53 -0500

Wow, I'm really surprised to hear that stopping in your vehicles for colors was going on now. Somewhere in the 1980s or 90s the Army put out that we would no longer do that as it was a safety hazard to have vehicles stopping in the middle of rush hour traffic and people getting out of their cars. Especially since some people would hear the music and stop and open their doors while others wouldn't and keep driving. That makes sense to me. Is it widespread now to do that on Army posts or other installations?

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Feb 5 at 2018 6:38 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:38:28 -0500

On a Military Base, STOP, get out and salute

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2018 11:43 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 11:43:54 -0500

0800??? Shoot... bankers hours.

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Feb 6 at 2018 11:46 AM

Lt Col Charlie Brown — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 11:46:50 -0500

I stop for colors and I will sometimes try to stop others who seem to forget about the courtesy due our flag.

Response by SPC Patricia K. (Williams) Elliott made Feb 6 at 2018 12:17 PM

SPC Patricia K. (Williams) Elliott — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 12:17:27 -0500

What can you do, nothing. Ignore them and continue on.

Response by PO2 Nick Burke made Feb 6 at 2018 2:21 PM

PO2 Nick Burke — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:21:21 -0500

Report him. That's what we do here at Great Lakes Naval Station.