What Do You Know About Agent Orange

2015-04-01T22:07:46-04:00

I was talking with a vet today at the Houston VA. He has two of the four cancers from Agent Orange exposure in 1966. He isn't expected to make it. The VA doctors told him and his wife, there isn't anything more they can do. He's in a wheel chair and cannot walk. He mentioned he found out that traces of Agent Orange are in weed killers such as Round Up. I looked it up tonight and sure enough, it's true. But, as I continued to look I came across this from Wikipedia. I think you'll be concerned.

Our benevolent agricultural guardians at the USDA have announced that they are allowing the introduction of new corn and soybean seeds that have been designed specifically to withstand a dousing with 2,4-D, a key ingredient in the infamously deadly Agent Orange.
Now we get to be the unwilling guinea pigs while USDA-approved test fields are planted.
It seems that our government did not learn its lesson from the millions of people gruesomely affected by the ingredients of Agent Orange the first time around.
Agent Orange, you may recall, was brought to wartime Vietnam by the evil masterminds at Dow and Monsanto. American forces sprayed it all over the countryside of Vietnam from 1961 to 1971. Its purpose was to defoliate trees and shrubs that were providing cover to enemy forces, and to kill food crops that were providing sustenance.
image: http://cdn5.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Agent-Orange.jpg
Agent Orange
This caused damage to the ecosystem of Vietnam that is still present today. More than 5 million acres of forests were destroyed, and half a million acres of farmland were tainted. It will take centuries of nurturing for the land to recover.
The environment was not the only thing affected. Exposure to Agent Orange resulted in five horrible illness in those exposed: soft-tissue sarcoma, non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, chronic lymphocytic leukemia (including hairy-cell leukemia), Hodgkin’s disease, and chloracne. (source) What’s even worse is that the damage may not be limited to those directly exposed – it can affect offspring even up to 3rd and 4th generations.
Over a million US veterans were also exposed:
In 2010, the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs provided $16.2 billion in compensation to 1,095,473 Vietnam-era veterans.[i] The agency does not relate these service-connected benefit figures directly to Agent Orange/dioxin exposure or to any other possible cause of illness, nor does it provide data on total compensation for the years since the war ended.
Thousands of U.S. veterans returning from Vietnam reported health problems almost immediately and rapidly associated them with Agent Orange/dioxin exposure. Controversy over these assertions began just as fast, and continues now.
Many questions remain: Whether (and how to test whether) the illnesses of veterans and their offspring are related to Agent Orange and other herbicide exposure; Levels of dioxin present in the chemicals; The accuracy of data about veterans’ exposure; Levels of corporate, military and government awareness of dioxin’s presence; Fixing of responsibility for the contaminant’s presence and liability for its damages; Details of research protocols, accuracy of findings and reliability of interpretations; and Decisions on who should pay what to whom for which possible courses of remedial action. This “blame game” has blocked action in both the U.S. and Vietnam, needlessly prolonging the suffering of millions of U.S. veterans and Vietnamese. – (source)

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/01/usda-approved-agent-orange-coming-farm-near/#ye18M2IrreDAADrr.99

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2015 10:12 PM

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Birth Defects in Children of Vietnam and Korea Veterans
VA has recognized that certain birth defects among Veterans' children are associated with Veterans' qualifying service in Vietnam or Korea.
A nurse helping a man who is in a wheelchair
Spina bifida (except spina bifida occulta), a defect in the developing fetus that results in incomplete closing of the spine, is associated with Veterans' exposure to Agent Orange or other herbicides during qualifying service in Vietnam or Korea.

Birth defects in children of women Veterans is associated with their military service in Vietnam, but are not related to herbicide exposure.
The affected child must have been conceived after the Veteran entered Vietnam or the Korean demilitarized zone during the qualifying service period.
VA benefits
Children with spina bifida or covered birth defects who are biological children of Veterans with qualifying service may be eligible for compensation, health care and vocational training.
Learn more about benefits for Veterans' children with birth defects.
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See more at: http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/birth-defects/index.asp#sthash.1PBM6JS4.dpuf

Birth Defects in Children of Vietnam and Korea Veterans - Public Health

Information on birth defects VA has recognized as associated with Veterans' exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam or Korea or as associated with service in Vietnam

Response by SFC Charles S. made Apr 2 at 2015 1:54 AM

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I know that it's the cause of a lot of non-combat related Vietnam Veterans Deaths related to Cancer. THE VA has a very long list of Presumptive conditions they will give compensation for just being in contact with it.
I also personally know some very awesome soldiers who have lost their battle with cancer because of Agent Orange. CW2 Jeffrey Tillman Recipient of the Distinguished Flying Cross for Gallantry in action in the country of Vietnam.

http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/conditions/index.asp

Response by SGT Thomas Lucken made Apr 2 at 2015 7:04 AM

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Subject: Agent Orange – Korea – Where is the Truth?

Feb 2015, I was at the VA Hospital in Marion, IL getting shots to my right knee and hips at the Orthopedic Clinic. As I was discussing some of my other issues with my limbs, they proceed to claim that I probable have neuropathy in my hands and possible feet. Going to recommend me to a Neurologist for that and some other issues! Neuropathy is another symptom of Agent Orange Dioxins, in less then a year I have been detected with 3 A.O. Illnesses!

On top of that, I had a another veteran of the Korean DMZ contact me about A.O. He served up on the DMZ only 87-88. He explained to me that his nurse mention to him, asking if he been in contact with Agent Orange whatsoever! He did not even know that A.O. was used in Korea. When the nurse mention it, he started doing some online research and realize that his service in Korea quite possible put him in contact with A.O.

I myself did not know till a year ago, that Agent Orange was used in Korea! VA gives the bogus presumptive dates of 68 to 71 for Korea! But we all know that is untrue, to many veterans before and after those dates are suffering from way to many A.O. related illnesses! Also in the past year, there has been VA Claims won before and after those dates! So they are slowly admitting there is a A.O. issue that is a lot bigger then they will admit.

Also in the past year, I have been in communications with many veterans that have served before and after the bogus dates, who are and now just realizing, they are battling A.O. related illnesses! And the one common factor we all have, we served in Korea especially up on the DMZ!!! “Hello Houston, we have a problem!!!”

In Vietnam, the government is quietly assisting in cleaning up in the areas that Agent Orange was used, but we have not in Korea yet! They are cleaning up, do to the long term effects of A.O. in the soil and water, that has effected the Vietnamese people! What about Korea? The American and Korean people who have been exposed to it for 40 plus years? Is the Korean government in cohoots with the American government to keep this coverup going?

For those that never served in Korea especially before 1991 up on the DMZ, don't realize the coverups that have gone on for years, and years, and years! Apparently Agent Orange is also in that mix of coverups! When is the VA and our politicians going to realize, many of our fellow DMZ Veterans and fighting dying from their hidden Agenda! They talk about taking care of our Veterans, but they are still omitting those Veterans that served in Korea!

Thomas J. Lucken
“Imjin Scout”

Response by SGT Thomas Lucken made Apr 2 at 2015 7:06 AM

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Response by SGT Thomas Lucken made Apr 2 at 2015 7:08 AM

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Korea - Agent Orange FB Group - In 11 months we have gained 514 months since conception.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Korea.Agent.Orange/

Response by SGT Thomas Lucken made Apr 2 at 2015 7:10 AM

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II
109TH CONGRESS
2D SESSION S. 2914

To recognize and honor the soldiers of the United States and the Republic
of Korea who served, were wounded, or were killed from 1953 until
the present in the defense of the Republic of Korea, to require the
placement of a commemorative plaque at the Korean War Veterans
Memorial in Washington, D.C., and for other purposes.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
MAY 19, 2006
Mr. DEWINE introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred
to the Committee on Energy and Natural Resources
A BILL
To recognize and honor the soldiers of the United States
and the Republic of Korea who served, were wounded,
or were killed from 1953 until the present in the defense
of the Republic of Korea, to require the placement of
a commemorative plaque at the Korean War Veterans
Memorial in Washington, D.C., and for other purposes.
1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa2
tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
4 This Act may be cited as the ‘‘DMZ War Veterans
5 Recognition Act of 2006’’.
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•S 2914 IS
1 SEC. 2. FINDINGS.
2 Congress finds that—
3 (1) the Korean War, which began in 1950 and
4 ended when the Korean War Armistice was signed
5 in 1953, is commonly known as the ‘‘Forgotten
6 War’’;
7 (2) a later war in Korea, known only to some
8 veterans and their families as the ‘‘Unknown War’’
9 or the ‘‘DMZ War’’, occurred long after the Korean
10 War Armistice was signed in 1953;
11 (3) according to military documents, the leader12
ship of North Korea issued a declaration of war
13 against the United States in a speech in 1966, which
14 read that ‘‘U.S. imperialists should be dealt blows
15 and their forces dispersed to the maximum in Asia.
16 . . .’’;
17 (4) the 124th Special Forces unit of North
18 Korea—
19 (A) was trained—
20 (i) to destroy the camps and civilians
21 of the United States;
22 (ii) to disrupt travel and communica23
tion between the Armed Forces; and
24 (iii) to sabotage and assassinate the
25 government officials of South Korea and
26 the United States; and
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1 (B) repeatedly confronted the soldiers of
2 the United States and the Republic of Korea
3 when crossing through the Demilitarized Zone;
4 (5) since the Armistice was signed, over 40,000
5 Armistice violations have occurred, many of which
6 involved troops of the United States who were sta7
tioned in and around Korea;
8 (6) some of those violations, like the capture of
9 the USS Pueblo, caught the attention of the media,
10 although most have not;
11 (7) since the end of the Korean War, many sol12
diers of the United States have died or been wound13
ed in Korea as a result of hostile fire;
14 (8) some veterans of the Republic of Korea suf15
fer from exposure to Agent Orange, which was used
16 during a period that began in 1968 and ended in
17 1969 in and around the DMZ;
18 (9) because the hazardous properties of Agent
19 Orange last for at least 100 years, soldiers of the
20 United States who later served in the Demilitarized
21 Zone had been exposed to the chemical long after
22 the Armed Forces stopped using it;
23 (10) the military personnel of the United States
24 who served in the Korean War during the period
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1 that began in 1966 and ended in 1969 received the
2 Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal; and
3 (11) a few of the soldiers who fought and died
4 in the Korean War have been—
5 (A) nominated posthumously for the Con6
gressional Medal of Honor; and
7 (B) awarded—
8 (i) the Silver Star or Bronze Star for
9 valor in combat; and
10 (ii) the Purple Heart for being wound11
ed in combat.
12 SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.
13 (a) PLAQUE.—The term ‘‘plaque’’ means the plaque
14 directed to be placed at the Korean War Veterans Memo15
rial in Washington, D.C. under section 4(a).
16 (b) SECRETARY.—The term ‘‘Secretary’’ means the
17 Secretary of the Interior, acting through the Director of
18 the National Park Service.
19 SEC. 4. PLACEMENT OF COMMEMORATIVE PLAQUE.
20 Not later than November 11, 2009, the Secretary
21 shall place on or near the grounds of the Korean War Vet22
erans Memorial in Washington, D.C., a plaque to com23
memorate the sacrifices of those who served, were wound24
ed, or were killed from 1953 until the present in the de25
fense of the Republic of Korea, that contains the following
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1 inscription (in which the bracketed space shall include the
2 date on which the plaque is placed): ‘‘Dedicated to the
3 soldiers of the United States and the Republic of Korea
4 who served, were wounded, or were killed from 1953 until
5 the present in the defense of the Republic of Korea. The
6 efforts of those soldiers have enabled the Republic of
7 Korea to develop into a successful and modern country.
8 Since 1953, the Armed Forces of the United States experi9
enced more than 40,000 ‘Armistice violation incidents.’
10 Those incidents have caused the deaths of over 100 sol11
diers of the Armed Forces of the United States and the
12 wounding of hundreds more from hostile fire in the Ko13
rean Peninsula and its surrounding waters. Unknown to
14 most citizens, the soldiers of the United States and the
15 Republic of Korea fought and won the ‘DMZ War’ be16
tween November 1966 and December 1969. That war
17 caused the majority of the Armistice casualties. We re18
member the service, sacrifice, and valor of all of those sol19
diers on this 40th anniversary of the start of the DMZ
20 War. Their fellow soldiers and their families will never for21
get them. Let this Plaque aid their countries to remember
22 them as well. Placed this day,
[llllllllll23 ].’’.
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Response by Sgt David G Duchesneau made May 12 at 2015 11:50 AM

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All I know is they said that it wouldn't hurt us. We set up perimeters around hill tops that were hit with Agent Orange and we dug fox holes in that infested dirt and we laied there for days on end. We drank water from the streams and again, they told us to just use the halogen pills. What a bunch of bull shit. We washed up in the streams and again they, the Marine Corps, said is was safe. So far, I have had two cancer surgeries because of that shit and right now I am in remission. I have been diagnosed with stage 2, adult onset diabetes. So much for Agent Orange being safe and not a heath risk. WTF-Over!
Bastards!

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made May 12 at 2015 12:46 PM

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it causes cancer?

Response by Sgt David G Duchesneau made May 12 at 2015 1:22 PM

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What do I know about Agent Orange? It sucks! Yes , it literally sucks the life out of you until one day you are gone!

Response by SMSgt Dan Powell made May 12 at 2015 1:43 PM

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I wasn't as heavily exposed to AO as so many other Viet Vets. My older brother was a Marine and has lost count of the cancers he has fought. Of the Marines he served in I Corp with, he is the last man standing. I have Type II Diabetes, heart problems & skin cancer. My oldest daughter has among other things, spinal bifida and nuerological problems. Cancer is probably the least of her worries at this point. My exposure at Plieku AB, RVN was from the water supply. After drinking it showering in it and having clothes washed in it, I guess I got sufficient exposure. Don't forget all the GIs stationed at many places around the world who were exposed and the VA denies recognition of linkage.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2015 1:58 PM

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http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/benefits/children-

Benefits for Veterans' Children with Birth Defects - Public Health

Information on VA benefits for children with certain birth defects who are biological children of Veterans with qualifying service in Vietnam or Korea.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2015 1:59 PM

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The following pictures are hard to look at, but this what the Korean and Vietnam Wars have done to children.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hbe5BaBoo

Agent Orange Orphans : 50 years on children suffer from effects of U.S chemical weapons in...

These photos show orphans suffering from the horrific effects of America's use of chemical weapons during the Vietnam War. The children were born decades aft...

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2015 2:04 PM

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These are pictures of Vietnamese children left behind to suffer from the effects of AO.

http://www.businessinsider.com/paula-bronsteins-photos-of-disabled-agent-orange-vietnamese-2014-7

These 11 Gut-Wrenching Photos Show America's Devastating Legacy In Vietnam

The effects of Agent Orange will last generations.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2015 4:05 PM

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http://naturalsociety.com/still-eating-agent-orange/
Be sure to read this:

For those of you who think you know about AO and Roundup, you don't . Monsanto is still producing poisions. No need to go back and forth, it's real and here and around the world.

Is Monsanto's RoundUp (Glyphosate) the New Agent Orange?

Monsanto poisoned thousands with its Agent Orange years ago. But could Monsanto's RoundUp herbicide (glyphosate) be the new Agent Orange of our time?

Response by TSgt Christopher D. made May 12 at 2015 4:12 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member sir, next time you're planning a visit to the Houston VA, please let me know. I'd be glad to meet you and visit our comrades together.

Response by Sgt Daniel Curry made May 12 at 2015 7:25 PM

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I remember when this was being tested in the sixties in Redwood City, California, near San Francisco.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2015 11:53 PM

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My grandfather fought in Vietnam. God rest his soul. He was exposed to the Agent orange while over there. He developed lung cancer from it. The doctors had said there was nothing they could do. By the time it was discovered, the cancer had wrapped completely around his lungs. At that point, it was irreparable.

Response by SSG Lloyd Becker BSBA-HCM, MBA made May 14 at 2015 2:38 AM

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Operation Ranch-hand is not over. If you check the food supply, you will find that Monsanto and Dow Chemical names are all over it.

GMO foods have been spliced with pesticides by Monsanto. Non-GMO foods are generally offered by farmers who grow from hierloom seeds and do not use any chemicals. There is a lot of information on Agent Orange. You can start with http://www.cornicopia.org. From there, it has links to Agent Orange.

The people at USDA, used to work for Monsanto and Dow Chemical. Of course they will say the food supply is safe. I would suggest you check it out for yourself.

Response by SGT Thomas Lucken made Jun 19 at 2015 7:44 AM

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I know the current presumptive dates for Korea are very bogus!!!!!!!!!

Many vets who have especially served/spent time on the DMZ long before and after the current dates are suffering from A.O. related diseases!!!!!

But, Korea has always been the forgotten beast, sadly! Forgotten War, Forgotten DMZ Duty, Forgotten A.O. used = Forgotten Veterans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by SSG John Erny made Jun 19 at 2015 1:56 PM

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Agent Orange Contained 2,4-dichlorophenoxyacetic acid (2,4-D) and 2,4,5-trichlorophenoxyacetic acid, many of you have used part of agent orange and did not know it, 2,4-d is used in many common weed killers like weed b gone. The second chemical had dixon mixed in with it and it is one of the most dangerous cancer causing chemicals know. If you are exposed to it chances are you will get cancer.

Response by SPC David S. made Jun 19 at 2015 2:25 PM

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Monsanto is playing a very dangerous game with mother nature as in making GMO's. If nothing but a particular GMO will grow in the ground what happens when a blight comes around and knocks out the GMO. When you make a plant resilient to every known problem sooner or later nature will create a fix in the form of a super blight.

Now they are messing with crops and our top soil. Sure our crops are yielding more now per acre than they ever had but at what cost. Much like Operation Ranch Hand in Vietnam there was fallout back in the US at Times Beach, MO. Also many military installations are contaminated - if you wonder why a based was closed this may be a contributing factor.

http://www.gmasw.com/ao_bases.htm

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/mo-timesbeach.html

Ill Fated Times Beach, Missouri

Along Route 66 you now see one of Missouri’s newest state parks, the Route 66 State Park. However, this was once the former site of a resort community on the Meramec River called Times Beach.

Response by CPL Steve Brady made Jun 20 at 2015 1:07 PM

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to all it may concern please see FT mcClelallan Grads,google article on Anniston,Alabama, home of the U.S.A.M.P.Academy until its closure,because of "financial" reasons (base closures) you will really get a lesson on dioxin exposure and to any chemical students/MPs who went to FT Mac,from its opening till it closed you need to see THIS, speaking from experience, ive already been to stage 4 lymphoma and back but the chemicals that i have been exposed to in the early 80s and beyond have left me permanetly disabled @ 52,un-able to work,and im just 1 in 1000s

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 20 at 2015 1:22 PM

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My father is a Veitnam vet 25th ID was exposed to agent orange for 14 months. He now has dementia and they are linking it to the exposure. I am learning a lot thanks to the VFW and other agency's. We use things in a time of war that we shouldn't and the long time effects are horrible for sure.

Response by CPL Steve Brady made Jun 20 at 2015 1:39 PM

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I share a piece of property with a vet who was a flight medic in nam who is now in chemo for lymphoma and he may not make it

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2015 1:26 PM

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Response by Cpl Lawrence Lavictoire made Nov 25 at 2015 6:11 PM

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loaded it on trucks to load on choppers to spray. After spraying, patrolled the same areas nightly; slept in it, breathed it....know how it smells, the color an how it sticks to skin. I go to the va and ask them about my medical issues and I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to agent orange. I'm just an old vet! So Keith, my answer to your question is, "I don't know anything about agent orange", and that's what the VA tells me anyway!!!!!!!!

Response by Sgt Spencer Sikder made Nov 25 at 2015 8:27 PM

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WOW! "Our benevolent agricultural guardians at the USDA have announced that they are allowing the introduction of new corn and soybean seeds that have been designed specifically to withstand a dousing with 2,4-D, a key ingredient in the infamously deadly Agent Orange." Unfriggin' believable!!!!

Response by PO3 Michael James made Nov 25 at 2015 8:41 PM

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Well Sgt. Bodine, Its been 45 years.. 13/14 operations, (paid for by civilian employer) and finally the VA has just recognized a partial compensation, however, they continue to ignore the two Cancers, and the heart disease.. Also, they refuse to consider the STRESS they put on the wives and the children of the Veterans !! Talk about PTSD.. But I am making some headway, and I will NOT quit !!

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2015 11:33 PM

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Monsanto's cash cow. And now we eat the food that they produce.

Response by LTC Charles Hamilton made Feb 9 at 2018 9:39 PM

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Diagnosed at MD Anderson Houston by pathology after hemicolectomy with discovery of Carcinoid tumor and NHL in 8 lymph nodes. This was Jan 1977. At 41 yrs since Dx, I am apparently the oldest survivor for NET on the Inet.
While home on leave between tours in Vietnam in 1968 I had an emergency appendectomy but no pathology. In 2015 I had a urostomy done to remove my bladder and my prostate. Dx was TCC or Urothelial Cancer with Sarcomatoid aspects. I am now 74 yrs old. I teach other people about GI diseases resulting from Agent Orange.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Feb 10 at 2018 2:57 AM

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This is the area where agent Orange barrels were stockpiled for use by the 12th Special Operations Squadron, "Ranch Hands " at Da Nang, Viet Nam who with the C123 aircraft sprayed Agent Orange. To this day in 2018 nothing will grow there, the chemical even got into the water system esp as this wasn't far from a swampy area. I had worked a post located 100 feet at best from this location in 1968-69 and some of My co-workers within My own unit, as well as 12th SOS people either have ill effects from AO exposure or have died from it.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Feb 10 at 2018 6:40 AM

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We use to sell one of the chemical that was in Agent Orange, farmers used it as an herbicide, the other half of the A O formula was outlawed.