LT Carl Martin 1935617 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> 2016-09-30T08:59:02-04:00 LT Carl Martin 1935617

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2016-09-30T08:59:02-04:00 2016-09-30T08:59:02-04:00 SGT David T. 1935624

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Makes it easier for us non-navy types to figure out what to call Sailors.

2016-09-30T09:02:05-04:00 2016-09-30T09:02:05-04:00 Capt Private RallyPoint Member 1935636

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Are they going to make it easier to understand?

2016-09-30T09:07:50-04:00 2016-09-30T09:07:50-04:00 Cpl Justin Goolsby 1935710

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Personally I think it makes it easier to understand. Why be addressed as your job title if no one outside of your actual job is going to know what your job is. Being addressed by rank is simple and it keeps people from thinking they&#39;re untouchable. I have known some who would mouth off to a senior rank because they were in different fields and didn&#39;t think they could be corrected by someone of a different field.

2016-09-30T09:43:55-04:00 2016-09-30T09:43:55-04:00 CDR Terry Boles 1935712

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is an interesting development or change. I can understand the simplification of designated Navy ranks since I have had the pleasure to be a member of other services. I think in the end, it helps most understand the rank structure, however possibly take away some of the long traditions of being separate entities within the Navy i.e. Brown show vs Black shoe, Fireman vs Airman, etc. Should they keep the rating design on the dress uniforms like their unit tabs then OK, it still identifies their rating (job) albeit the new improved Navy a Seaman is a Seaman. It will be interesting to see how the fleet and old salts weigh in. Interesting change!

2016-09-30T09:44:04-04:00 2016-09-30T09:44:04-04:00 CAPT Kevin B. 1935858

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Had to laugh a bit over this one. I remember a lot of griping about not being able to tell what someone&#39;s job was without the rating symbol on the Crow. They didn&#39;t have it on working uniforms so you&#39;d only see it mostly when people weren&#39;t working their job, i.e. at dress formation, port entry, etc. Everything has consequences. It will smooth out some of the up/down manning bumps but can suboptimize what&#39;s left with a training/skill gap. A lot seems geared to lessening tough decision stuff with the top brass. If that is true, then I&#39;d be concerned that the result is a more diluted force structure. Time will tell. One thing for sure, they&#39;ll never measure the before/after aspects. They&#39;ll just take credit for the improvement, real or imagined.

2016-09-30T10:51:22-04:00 2016-09-30T10:51:22-04:00 LCDR Private RallyPoint Member 1935982

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>their reasoning is &quot;to brings us more in line with the other services” which means the Army, don&#39;t know how you walk away with a plural there

2016-09-30T11:49:15-04:00 2016-09-30T11:49:15-04:00 SN Greg Wright 1936166

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What I think isn&#39;t appropriate for this forum. I will say that I have never loathed a politician like I do Ray Mabus.

2016-09-30T12:56:36-04:00 2016-09-30T12:56:36-04:00 SFC Joseph Weber 1936935

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You guys are getting rid of the one boat, two boat, three boat, red boat, blue boat, green boat rating system?? That&#39;s crazy!

2016-09-30T17:43:57-04:00 2016-09-30T17:43:57-04:00 SSgt David Tedrow 1939153

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it is just another example of &quot;political correctness&quot; running out of control. This is just another example of taking something that helps a service stand apart from another. Soon the politicians will want a unified armed forces where everyone is the same. Leave the things alone that work and are not broken.

2016-10-01T16:02:30-04:00 2016-10-01T16:02:30-04:00 1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member 1944971

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Easy. A person should be judged by their character and the work they produce and not by a title. I get the whole tradition issue; but change is not always a bad thing.

2016-10-03T22:57:56-04:00 2016-10-03T22:57:56-04:00 LCDR Private RallyPoint Member 1945405

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In the past 27 years I&#39;ve been in, I&#39;ve held two Navy ratings (QM and HM) and in both fields have seen ratings come and go (DT was folded into HM, SM was folded into QM, and QM&#39;s on subs became ETs not to mention DP&#39;s, etc.) and name change (SK to LS, MS to CS, etc.). Ratings have been created, merged, renamed, and destroyed so they&#39;ve never been sacrosanct. While I understand the emotional attachment people have to their rates, this is not something that hasn&#39;t happened to LOTS of different rates over the years. The difference here is scope - it&#39;s happening to all. While we won&#39;t know the results of the changes until they&#39;re complete and we&#39;ve had a chance to measure, I can say that there has always been a lot of overlap in the deck rates. BM&#39;s, QM&#39;s, SM&#39;s, OS&#39;s all have significant overlapping responsibilities and it makes sense (at least to me) to provide the opportunity for a sailor to cross qualify and have the opportunity to fill any of the positions. One can have depth *and* breadth of training and when combined with opportunities for civilian certification or licensure, I think there will be more good than bad that comes out of this.

2016-10-04T06:53:53-04:00 2016-10-04T06:53:53-04:00 CPO John Dupee 1945411

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The UNITED STATES DEFENSE FORCE was born 29SEPTEMBER2016. The long game is a SINGLE Military. <br /><br />-They&#39;ve been chipping away at the CPO process for years. Now they&#39;ve moved their attention to the bottom and working up.<br />-ALL services will be in Green before long.<br />-NAVY Advancement exams will be next in favor of a system like ARMY or MARINES<br />-Get NAVY in line with rank structure priority like ARMY and MARINES. <br /><br />This was NEVER about titles or making civilian transition easier. This is ALL about the needs of the Navy and doing even more with less. That Machinist&#39;s Mate will now be able to work in the galley as a cook and NOT necessarily because HE/SHE wants to

2016-10-04T06:56:13-04:00 2016-10-04T06:56:13-04:00 PO3 Lynn Spalding 1945551

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I really think they should leave well enough alone.

2016-10-04T07:53:35-04:00 2016-10-04T07:53:35-04:00 PO2 Marc Gunter 1945572

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The only possible benefit I can see is that it might prevent some sailors (sailpersons?) from being forced out of the service because &quot;we can&#39;t let you cross-rate from GS to MA because GS is more critical...so you&#39;re just going to have to take the medical discharge with 10% disability instead of finishing out your last 10 years.&quot;<br /><br />Meanwhile, I bounced from job to job for the next 12 years because nobody would hire a turbine tech without a college degree or 20 years in the service.

2016-10-04T07:59:22-04:00 2016-10-04T07:59:22-04:00 CPO Douglas Winslow 1945580

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think this is absolute GARBAGE! Sailors are different from all the other services because we identify ourselves by our Rating First, Rank Second........ the one last thing that made us unique has just been stripped from us. <br /><br />Thank God I&#39;m retired and don&#39;t have to pretend to support this decision made my PC Idiots.<br /><br />ETC (Retired) Douglas J. Winslow

2016-10-04T08:01:58-04:00 2016-10-04T08:01:58-04:00 PO1 Matthew Maxon 1945587

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is the dumbest shit in Naval Stupidity ever done by the stupid ass Chain of Command trying to put something on their CV when they get the fuck out!! Just proves they DGAF about the people they &quot;Lead&quot;. To hell with 200+ years of tradition!

2016-10-04T08:04:13-04:00 2016-10-04T08:04:13-04:00 CAPT Hiram Patterson 1945641

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Total lunacy! Ever heard the phrase &quot;Jack of all trades, master of nothing?&quot;

2016-10-04T08:18:20-04:00 2016-10-04T08:18:20-04:00 PO2 Richard Blakey 1945727

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>first my rate was ms now cs hell on

2016-10-04T08:53:40-04:00 2016-10-04T08:53:40-04:00 PO3 Chris Fuentes 1945746

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>i feel like the government is trying to make all branches one then will have all the power it needs to over take any other government its all smoke and mirrors. don&#39;t let the us turn us into slaves even more then what we are.

2016-10-04T09:02:11-04:00 2016-10-04T09:02:11-04:00 PO1 James Giunta 1945945

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don&#39;t think much of it at all.... Navy traditions are so much more than worrying about gender neutrality or political correctness. Women have been in the Navy since WW II &amp; virtually every rating in the Navy has been open to women (with few exceptions) for decades. Now all of a sudden everyone wants to worry about whether or not the rating title depicts a man or woman? Total crap.

2016-10-04T10:05:38-04:00 2016-10-04T10:05:38-04:00 PO3 Terry Miller 1945979

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Another example of trying to reshape America into a socialist mold. Strip the individuality from sailors by taking away an identifying characteristic and one that sailors have proudly worn from 241 years. This kind of disrespect for enlisted is intolerable.

2016-10-04T10:11:28-04:00 2016-10-04T10:11:28-04:00 LT Richard Michael 1946003

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Total Bullshit. Glad I retired.

2016-10-04T10:19:34-04:00 2016-10-04T10:19:34-04:00 PO2 Carl Ralls 1946005

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is aggravating; big mistake! Argh! What&#39;s the point?

2016-10-04T10:20:26-04:00 2016-10-04T10:20:26-04:00 SN Will Dickson 1946053

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am all for being able to cross train and branch out beyond your nominal rate. Having said that... This change is complete and utter bullshit and shows nothing more than our Navy further caving under the yoke of political correctness!

2016-10-04T10:39:30-04:00 2016-10-04T10:39:30-04:00 SCPO Robert Henry 1946094

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It just goes to show that Civilians who have Never served in the military, especially the Navy, such as the Secretary of the Navy, should not be making decisions that impact the Honors and Traditions of the force. Unlike the other sister services, when the Navy is at sea, you can not call the local fire department or emergency services to rescue you. You need specifically trained personnel to do the jobs and take care of the emergencies and repairs at sea. The rating on the Crow indicates a degree of professionalism and pride for the sailors that were it. If a person is a second class Petty officer, let&#39;s say Machinist Mate, then your supervisor knows what you have been trained to do and what you can generally accomplish without supervision. You do not just call any PO 2 to repair the boiler or turbines you call a boiler tech or machinist mate, nor do you call any PO2 to man the personnel office and type a letter, you call a Yeoman, and you definitely do not call a machinist mate to moor the ship or coxswain the whaleboat you call a Boatswains Mate. None of these titles are gender specific so that is not a reason to eliminate the ratings. All of the ratings are a personal pride to the sailors because the rates combined with the ranks show the sailors training and professionalism. The Officers in the Navy differ, unlike the enlisted, the Officers fall mainly into two categories, Command at Sea, and Support, i.e. Supply, legal, engineers, etc. support Officers are not eligible for Command at Sea. You can not have a JAG Officer, no matter what you saw in the TV series, Commanding a Destroyer, a Squadron of F-14&#39;s or any other Command at Sea. Traditions, Honors, and Day to Day Operations of the Navy have been developed over hundreds of years of ships at sea. They should not be eliminated by some &quot;Sand Crab&quot;, (sideways walking beach creature), like the Secretary of the Navy and the land locked advisers, who pass through that office because of political whims and fancies.

2016-10-04T10:50:04-04:00 2016-10-04T10:50:04-04:00 PO1 Roger Waddle 1946206

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>BULLSHIT THATS WHAT I THINK

2016-10-04T11:19:50-04:00 2016-10-04T11:19:50-04:00 PO1 Frank Reiffenstein 1946253

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I thought all the uniform changes over the last few years was stupid. This by far the dumbest thing the Navy has done. I believe they bowed down to P. C. again. Wake up and smell the salt water. <br />Retired Shipserviceman First Class (SW).

2016-10-04T11:29:35-04:00 2016-10-04T11:29:35-04:00 PO2 Kevin Easter 1946271

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Bad idea. The Navy is organized around shipboard life. Life aboard ship is and always has been based upon job description and type. In this respect, it differs fundamentally from the other services which are land-based services. The recent attempts by the Navy to align itself with the other services is misguided, in my opinion.

2016-10-04T11:35:12-04:00 2016-10-04T11:35:12-04:00 PO2 Mark Evans 1946281

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not my circus, not my monkey, but this is the stupidest thing I have seen come down the COC and I&#39;ve seen a lot. <br />I&#39;ll always be former STS2(ss)

2016-10-04T11:38:28-04:00 2016-10-04T11:38:28-04:00 PO1 Private RallyPoint Member 1946295

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If that is what Big Navy feels will make our Navy stronger than I have to support my leadership&#39;s decision.<br /><br />Personally, I&#39;m disappointed because I busted my butt to become a BM1. We are becoming a Navy of PC instead of a Navy of long lasting traditions. We&#39;ve always prided ourselves that we have those traditions. But the jobs aren&#39;t going to change, just the names. I am and will always be a Boatswain&#39;s Mate. I have my crossed anchors tattooed on my arm to prove it.<br /><br />Fair Winds and Following Seas Navy Rates (taps being played in the background)

2016-10-04T11:44:41-04:00 2016-10-04T11:44:41-04:00 PO1 Cliff Heath 1946377

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it is one of the dumbest goddamned ideas I have ever heard, proudest moment was putting on those Crossed Cannons. When you are in a rate that you have to bust your ass, get filthy, you want everybody to know you are U.S. NAVY GUNNERS MATE, takes away the identity that makes each rate special. seeing a command personnel inspection with blank Crows would remind of slick sleeve E-1

2016-10-04T12:21:22-04:00 2016-10-04T12:21:22-04:00 CWO2 Roger Lamb 1946425

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m concerned that a knowledge and skills based enlisted promotion system will turn into a political, ass kissing system of political correctness and popularity/beauty contests if rating exams are tossed in the shitcan. I don&#39;t too much care about ETs working as EWs, FTs, etc. but I&#39;ve a bit of experience with ATs crossing to ETs a lot of retraining on concepts of repair will need to be taught in both directions.

2016-10-04T12:35:31-04:00 2016-10-04T12:35:31-04:00 PO1 Jeanette Blackwood 1946534

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Horse snot. It is just another way to align the Navy with other branches. &quot;Let&#39;s get rid of the Rates and just identify by NOS to equate to the other branches MOS&#39;.&quot; Well we wouldn&#39;t want tradition to get in the way of our &quot;creating everyone equal&quot; would we.

2016-10-04T13:07:07-04:00 2016-10-04T13:07:07-04:00 PO1 Donald Hammond 1946592

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was and will always be an Electricians Mate. Submarine Qualified. EM1(SS). <br /><br />But all that talk about being able to cross train into new jobs. Right. When you see a nuke able to cross train to another rating that is NOT a nuke, that will be the day. Born a nuke, die a nuke. <br /><br />Bunch of bilge water.

2016-10-04T13:28:12-04:00 2016-10-04T13:28:12-04:00 Sgt Kelli Mays 1946669

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="286743" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/286743-lt-carl-martin">LT Carl Martin</a> NOt knowing anything about the Rating System...I would say...that things were different 241 years ago and perhaps it needs to be looked at, assessed and changes made.

2016-10-04T13:50:48-04:00 2016-10-04T13:50:48-04:00 CPO Zack Lindsey 1946697

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well I&#39;m old school guess you would say a old fart at least that is what is what my son keeps calling me, but I don&#39;t like it true some things everyone can do, like fight that fire when it starts in the workspace or passageway, or give first aid to your shipmates when they need and it does not matter what is on there arm be it crossed cannons or a eagle on the collar and those things we all aré taught the day we step on the ship. But running the raído or nuke plant or any of the other equipment that is why we should keep the ratings but hey just a old fart here that lost anthor proud NAVY WAY IN THE WAVES

2016-10-04T13:58:38-04:00 2016-10-04T13:58:38-04:00 SCPO Frank Carson 1947199

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Long overdue

2016-10-04T17:23:48-04:00 2016-10-04T17:23:48-04:00 LT David Staehlin 1947215

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think people are getting entirely too emotional about this change. I am proud to have served as a Radioman (RMSR through RM2) in the Navy. But I&#39;m just as proud of the job I did in the Air National Guard, where I didn&#39;t wear my job on my sleeve. <br /><br />I was a Navy Petty Officer Second Class first, then a Radioman. <br />I was an Air National Guard Technical Sergeant first, then an HF Radio Operations Supervisor.<br />I was a Navy Lieutenant first, then a Supply Corps officer. <br /><br />I have no problem with eliminating ratings and instead using NOSs. There are pros and cons to every option. Changes--even big ones--aren&#39;t automatically bad just because they&#39;re different from when we served.

2016-10-04T17:32:55-04:00 2016-10-04T17:32:55-04:00 PO2 Weaver Brian 1947227

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it&#39;s another load of bull from the politically correct, civilian Secretary of the Navy, who knows very little, and cares even less, about long standing traditions of the US Navy. In what world is this new &#39;NOS&#39; easier to understand than the existing NEC? Neither is on their rank/rating insignia. You would probably have to look up either one if you aren&#39;t in that particular specialty anyways. As for making it easier for people outside the Navy to understand, until the Army and Air Force start sending their personnel out to sea on destroyers, I can&#39;t fathom where it makes any difference. This is absolutely not about inclusiveness, or whatever the current politically correct term is, it is about tearing down the traditions and uniqueness of the different branches of the military in the name of political correctness. We may all be created equal, but that doesn&#39;t mean we remain equal our entire lives. Whether they like it or not, people are different, and for a huge variety of reasons.

2016-10-04T17:38:46-04:00 2016-10-04T17:38:46-04:00 MCPO Private RallyPoint Member 1947283

<div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-112560"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-about-the-navy-eliminating-241-year-old-rating-system-in-new-enlisted-rank-overhaul%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=What+do+you+think+about+the+Navy+Eliminating+241-Year-Old+Rating+System+in+New+Enlisted+Rank+Overhaul%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-about-the-navy-eliminating-241-year-old-rating-system-in-new-enlisted-rank-overhaul&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWhat do you think about the Navy Eliminating 241-Year-Old Rating System in New Enlisted Rank Overhaul?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-about-the-navy-eliminating-241-year-old-rating-system-in-new-enlisted-rank-overhaul" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="2b5958cfe5172ae6e85744b171ff0b77" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/112/560/for_gallery_v2/31f5b93f.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/112/560/large_v3/31f5b93f.jpg" alt="31f5b93f" /></a></div></div>To put it bluntly I think it sucks and is a poor decision. However the decision has been made and now needs to be supported to make it turn out for the best. I believe there are enough smart people who with the right motivation can provide constructive feedback to make it work. My own feedback, is continue with the process of allowing/encouraging Sailors to work multiple rates, but still give them a primary rate. That primary rate they can still wear and feel a part of and of course continue the brotherly ribbing that goes with it. I can understand why some would want to change rates after coming in, they see that gods chosen rate is a Machinist Mate and they want to be part of that :)

2016-10-04T18:15:16-04:00 2016-10-04T18:15:16-04:00 PO1 Scott Cottrell 1947309

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it&#39;s BS, but I&#39;m retired. If you call me Petty Officer, I most likely will not respond. If you say AC1, I will most likely respond.

2016-10-04T18:30:34-04:00 2016-10-04T18:30:34-04:00 PO2 Marshall Clowers 1947809

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Dumbest thing of I have heard in a long while. For many years I was AT2. I&#39;d answer to it, use it to identify myself and it would lead off my signature on a VIDS/MAF. On a small boy there was a high probability that I was the ONLY AT2 aboard the ship, and it was a whole hell of a lot more convenient to call someone by their rate, rather than &quot;Good morning Petty Officer Umptysquat&quot;. <br />I understand merging rates, but doing away with the designation altogether will hurt morale. And if someone is trying to use the explanation that it will open up advancement to those ratings that are tight, it&#39;s a fantasy.

2016-10-04T21:54:55-04:00 2016-10-04T21:54:55-04:00 PO1 Kevin Arnold 1948003

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it will put more of a rift between those that were in the Navy before the change and then after the change. The old Navy will be like what is your rating and the new guy will say he is a Petty Officer and then give out some numbers. Okay how will that relate to anything to the old navy or even those who are now employers wanting to know what exactly is they did in the Navy.

2016-10-04T23:26:06-04:00 2016-10-04T23:26:06-04:00 PO1 Michael Gentile 1948236

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is what happens when Obummer fires all the Generals and Admirals who disagree with him. don&#39;t think I could survive todays Navy. Retired ET1(SW/AW) and dam proud of it.

2016-10-05T02:30:58-04:00 2016-10-05T02:30:58-04:00 PO2 Heath Howard 1948948

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My title will ALWAYS be HM2(FMF)/USN

2016-10-05T10:56:44-04:00 2016-10-05T10:56:44-04:00 PO3 William Fusick 1949032

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is the dumbest move yet

2016-10-05T11:22:34-04:00 2016-10-05T11:22:34-04:00 PO1 Jeremy Simon 1949340

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Fast forward a couple of years....Today the CNO announces that due to confusion throughout the fleet and difficulty detailing and identifying what job sailors perform based on thier NOS, the Navy will Institute a new system to identify sailors based on thier primary job. This new system shall use a combination of letters and numbers for job specialty and rank. The letters (also known as &quot;ratings&quot;) will most likely be an abbreviated form of the job title for instance: PR, for parachute riggers, AE for aviation electricians...

2016-10-05T13:34:43-04:00 2016-10-05T13:34:43-04:00 PO2 Pete Haga 1949891

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>if it is not broken leave it alone why do they have to mess with shit like this because they want to fast track certain people and skip over others kinda like in the 70s some of us remember that!

2016-10-05T17:17:37-04:00 2016-10-05T17:17:37-04:00 PO3 Terry Miller 1952311

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Socialist Political Correctness run amok. The only reason for doing this is to strip away any vestiges of individuality. Getting rid of &quot;-men&quot; in rates was a convenient excuse. I am very hopeful that the next SecNav will actually have the Navy&#39;s interests at heart instead of the socialist interests that Mabus has been so fond of following.

2016-10-06T14:26:03-04:00 2016-10-06T14:26:03-04:00 SSG Philip Evans 1952355

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Another step in eliminating tradition! It seems that &#39;tradition&#39; is under attack from all sides in society today. No one seems to care for &#39;history&#39;, &#39;values&#39;, or &#39;lessons learned&#39; any longer and God forbid any mention of &#39;morality&#39;! I am a firm believer in traditions and the values they instill. Traditions are &#39;character building&#39;, &#39;enhance &#39;morale&#39;, and give people a good feeling knowing that they are a part of history. Each branch of service has their own traditions and each must find their own way to carry those onward for the future!<br />GMG1 (CC) Philip E. Evans (31 years USN, USNR)<br />SSG (Ranger) Philip E. Evans (5 years USA) (Retired)

2016-10-06T14:43:43-04:00 2016-10-06T14:43:43-04:00 PO2 Steven Parker 1959288

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not in favor of it at all. I will always be an AT. This was one of the worst Ideas ever. The Navy Marines Army and Air Force need to move forward in Tech but not lose tradition. But this President is worthless and has all but destroyed our military&#39;s ability to perform at a top level.

2016-10-09T07:41:18-04:00 2016-10-09T07:41:18-04:00 CPO Byron Sargent 1972248

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe that we are headed toward one Service in which planners in the pentagon will distribute the enlistees into the appropriate or not appropriate job as they see fit. There will be one standard uniform for Working, battle, dress, with distinguishing unit or service patches. Each member will have a primary MOS (service) and secondary MOS (specialty) and so on. The way the navy has changed in the recent years is evidence of this. (or maybe it is just stupidity). I guess it would be very much like the Chinese model. It would require a lot of front end training since there would be the same basic requirements for all enlistees.

2016-10-13T12:35:45-04:00 2016-10-13T12:35:45-04:00 PO3 William Fusick 1973187

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it&#39;s one of the dumbest things they could do. I personally have pride in being an EO3

2016-10-13T16:00:33-04:00 2016-10-13T16:00:33-04:00 SCPO Frank Carson 1997492

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Long overdue. And there will always be a Navy!

2016-10-20T22:19:11-04:00 2016-10-20T22:19:11-04:00 CPO Bill Penrod 2178859

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It was rescinded. Navy enlisted get their job titles back.....................!!

2016-12-21T17:33:23-05:00 2016-12-21T17:33:23-05:00 CPO Bill Penrod 2179453

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Sailors have their ratings back, According to Navy Times..............

2016-12-21T21:50:59-05:00 2016-12-21T21:50:59-05:00 2016-09-30T08:59:02-04:00