What do you think of Jordan killing two al-Qaeda prisoners?

2015-02-04T07:03:09-05:00

Jordan killed two al-Qaeda terrorists in their custody in response to the burning to death of the Jordanian pilot by ISIS.

Do you think this was the right response? Or does this mean Jordan is stooping to the level of ISIS? Granted, they did not burn the prisoners, but they killed them nonetheless. Is this a revenge killing? Is it justified? Or not? What are your thoughts?

http://www.omaha.com/news/world/jordan-executes-two-al-qaida-prisoners-after-is-kills-pilot/article_7728bd38-ac55-11e4-b1da-d70d1a0f24e6.html

Response by SGT Jim Z. made Feb 4 at 2015 7:13 AM

2015-02-04T07:13:42-05:00

Personally I think they backed themselves into that corner by making the demand originally and if they backed down they would lose "face" therefore they did it and I would classify as revenge.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 7:43 AM

2015-02-04T07:43:28-05:00

I agree with them doing it Im tired of only hearing about guys on our side being killed

Response by SGT Francis Wright made Feb 4 at 2015 7:57 AM

2015-02-04T07:57:01-05:00

Just two? Should have been more. They do not appreciate being treated humanely.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 8:54 AM

2015-02-04T08:54:15-05:00

This has been getting out of control for awhile now. If continued to go unchecked we will all be answering the call to prayer daily. If the Muslim world does not start standing up and renouncing the brutality of the radicals the jihad is going to spread like wildfire.

These jackasses need to be dealt with, with extreme prejudice before we see the Fourth Reich Islam style. Jordan is about the only middle east country truly making a stand.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Feb 4 at 2015 9:39 AM

2015-02-04T09:39:03-05:00

It's not something I can condone the US doing.

It's not Justice, as a concept in the US.

Two wrongs don't make a right as the old saying goes.

When you take a prisoner, you take on an obligation with that prisoner. The US has discovered that first hand. We call them detainees... and they've been sitting in Guantanamo for how long now, because their host nation does want them, we don't want them, and no one else will have them. You can't just kill them without Due Process.

MSG Ramon Hidalgo-Acosta brought up that these prisoners were already on Death Row, and this was merely an acceleration of their sentence. That's fine. But the "Perception" is that this is a revenge killing. And as we all know, perception is reality.

If the US were to do, or even consider doing something like this (revenge killing of Prisoners), I would be screaming bloody murder. We're better than this. We have to set the example. If we want (or more accurately have been forced) to be the World Police, then we need to do it from a position of Morale Authority.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 10:42 AM

2015-02-04T10:42:03-05:00

Kill em all. They've already been convicted.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 10:44 AM

2015-02-04T10:44:10-05:00

I didn't read into it much but I wonder the cost of the 2 terrorists vs the pilot. A pilot has hours upon hours of costly training compared to 2 foot soldiers. if that's the case, then isis would still be 1 up on them. I do on the other hand agree with the killing of the 2 terrorist.

Response by COL Vincent Stoneking made Feb 4 at 2015 11:34 AM

2015-02-04T11:34:41-05:00

It's a start?

Response by Cpl Matthew Wall made Feb 4 at 2015 1:53 PM

2015-02-04T13:53:57-05:00

Honestly? I say good for them. This is PC BS that we have been doing isn't doing anything. These turds need learn and the only way to do that is with a hammer. This bringing justice crap to them is overrated. Just kill em' all and let God sort em' out.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 2:15 PM

2015-02-04T14:15:02-05:00

ISIS see the US ideals as a weakness. Here in the US, a criminal gets caught after blatantly blowing up a office building killing some people in the process. Because of the nature of the crime, it's declared as an act of terrorism. So the terrorist goes to jail, gets fed, gets health care and representation all on our dime. So now comes the court date and how does one plea? "not guilty". Meanwhile all the evidence clearly shows what happened but we're going to see this dragged through the courts, again on our dime, when we should have just put 2 to the chest and 1 to the head. Booyah!see how that would have been so much easier? A year later the Boston bombing suspect is now just getting to trial, really?

Jordan isn't stooping low to any level of ISIS. For me its an eye for an eye. Jordan can call the killing whatever they want, it's their country, who are we to judge their actions. Maybe other middle eastern countries will see Jordan take a stand and say this is enough of ISIS/ISIL and their BS. Honestly what sheikh wants their wealth torn away from them and live in a life of poverty and submission, not a single one. There been some reports of sheikh's supporting terrorism, then their respective country should swoop in on them and take all their wealth from them and deal with them severely. Let Jordan do it's thing, maybe someone will open their eyes.

Response by MSgt Michelle Mondia made Feb 5 at 2015 12:11 AM

2015-02-05T00:11:00-05:00

How very Old Testament of them...

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2015 12:25 AM

2015-02-05T00:25:22-05:00

Was this the right response? Yes it was for Revenge solves nothing, it feels great but ultimately solves nothing. Now these terrorists who the Jordanians killed have been tried and convicted so they got a accelerated fulfillment of their sentence which I'm all for :). Now I like this for two reasons, 1. They had a fair trial and the ability to face their accusers 2. They were convicted by said law and the sentence was executed for all to see. This is important because this isn't a knee jerk reaction this is showing the difference between the rule of law vs the rule of barbarity. The act of putting these convicted terrorists to death by law send the world and ISIS the clear picture that at least in Jordan the law governs. Also this deflates ISIS' propganda machine and shows them for what they are, not freedom fighters or warriors but a band of cowards, thugs and ultimately terrorist of the lowest order.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2015 12:58 AM

2015-02-05T00:58:17-05:00

In some circles it's called an "proportionate response". For the full retaliatory impact, Jordan should publish the "sentence". Are we in court, or another undeclared brush war?

It would assist my language skills if I knew which. Rule #1 thou shalt not mix church and state, it confuses those of us whom follow the "Constitution" to the letter. This includes taking sides in personal Jihads. When "Congress in Session" votes on an official war, call me - unconfused.

Response by 1SG Eric Rice made Feb 5 at 2015 6:34 AM

2015-02-05T06:34:31-05:00

The problem with radical terrorist organizations is that they only know one language....violence. In this situation I believe that it was warranted. The U.S. releases terrorist so they can get back in the game and Jordan is executing them. Seems like we need to reevaluate our strategy to effectively eliminate the threat.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Feb 5 at 2015 8:12 AM

2015-02-05T08:12:14-05:00

My opinion is that it was justified. They were convicted by a court of law and sentenced to death, not simply jerked off the streets and murdered.

Will it have any impact on ISIS? Most likely not, as they have certainly shown that human life means nothing to them. In addition, they will simply be regarded as martyrs and may actually add strength to the ISIS "cause".

I do not think that any nation should overreact and just start killing people indiscriminately in retaliation for the ISIS atrocities. That would make that nation no better than ISIS.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Feb 5 at 2015 11:02 AM

2015-02-05T11:02:47-05:00

Number 1: Jordan is responding the way their society is, not what the western society wants them to be.

2. ISIS only understands this type of dealing. If you stand up, smack them aside the head with a 2x4 then say, "Now that I have your attention", this is the type of response they understand, not mambi pambi pussy footing around like the Western societies want to do.

3. Standing up this way will get faster results than our Great Leader who still refuses to admit it is Islamic Terriorism.

Response by SPC Nicholas Cureton made Feb 6 at 2015 11:26 PM

2015-02-06T23:26:53-05:00

Do I think it was right? No, absolutely not. Do I think it was necessary? No, not really. Do I think it was justified? Yes, I'm not a scholar of Jordanian laws. But to my limited understanding these individuals where basically condemned for their crimes already, this just moved the execution date up.
One mistake people have been making is the expectation of civility from these insurgents, that is like getting into a boxing match with a wild bear and then being upset that the bear isn't following the rules. These terrorists are exactly what the name implies Terrace they're not going to follow rules set forth in an organized manner such as the Geneva Convention. They are going to do everything possible to frighten the general population into following what they say. Just like a bully in a playground, you either have somebody else step in and intervene, or you put that person down and you put them down hard. This is my own opinion take it for what it's worth.

Response by SGT Steven Montgomery made Feb 13 at 2015 11:06 PM

2015-02-13T23:06:34-05:00

I'm with most commenters, a good start but we need to speed up the operation - grease mark in the sand is classic in my opinion!!