What do you think of the new Army PT uniform?

2013-12-05T01:03:57-05:00

I've seen the Soldiers wearing the black and gold uniforms for pt recently but only a few. The Army seems to have this problem with uniform changes, I'm a little annoyed. Although I think the current PT's are bland, I don't feel like the Army should be shelling out all this money for flair. It's the same uniform, different color scheme, anyone else annoyed by this? I feel if they were going to make new PTs they could have changed them up besides color. Not to mention I really hate the LS turtle neck. Also, does anyone know the wear date for these new PT's?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2013 8:42 AM

2013-11-12T08:42:19-05:00

As far as I know the new PT's are to be issued starting FY 2015, but won't be required until 2018 unless something has changed. Hope this helps.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2013 4:36 AM

2013-12-05T04:36:26-05:00

I agree with you on spending money but the new pt's. Will have some improvements not just color change. Better pockets for keys and ID. The long sleeve won't be a turtle neck. The shirt material is supposed to be more under armor like. Should be some improvements but I would rather have paper to print on and would kill for some money to buy paper towels at the office.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2013 6:43 AM

2013-12-05T06:43:08-05:00

I think new materials are the way to go when I joined 4 years ago the NG gave me a set of PTs for going to RSP drills while waiting for basic. These PT's were of modern breathable, wicking materials that I would be happy to wear anywhere. So if the new Army style ends up more like that I am willing to accept my initial issue and will pay out of pocket to buy extra shorts and tops.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2013 11:29 AM

2013-12-05T11:29:37-05:00

Anyone who has been in a while will recall the odd PT's. They were horrible. The PT's we wear now are not bad but could use improvements. The shirt should be a lighter weight and the winters are horrible also. I civilian gear is much more breathable in the cold weather. It really won't be much of a waste of money. They will just phase them in as they did the ASU and ACU. I hope they call it the APU.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2013 5:29 PM

2013-12-08T17:29:28-05:00

Black I agree looks very nice but I think its a horrible choice for PT. It is going to hold more body heat and potentially cause more heat casualties in the summer time. Additionally why should we field a PT uniform with even less visibility when most PT is conducted during low visibility hours.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2013 9:10 AM

2013-12-09T09:10:48-05:00

Its one of those things that I just shrug my shoulders at. In my opnion we're too busy trying to keep pace with the other services PT uniforms. All I see it as more money I have to spend and to be honest the clothing allowance doesnt really cover what we need in regards to maintenance and purchases

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2013 3:18 PM

2013-12-09T15:18:38-05:00

There are a few differences that are going to make these new Pt's better. The shirt is a new material similar to the loose fitting version of under armor, the long sleeve top as said above will not be a turtle neck, the shorts instead of having those weird underwear things in them, will now have spandex like compression shorts in them.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2013 7:20 PM

2013-12-09T19:20:24-05:00

i think they can take the money and put it is everyones pay

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2013 8:55 PM

2013-12-09T20:55:28-05:00

if that's what they look like then sure, let me have them, right now !!!!

Response by SSG Michael H. made Dec 10 at 2013 11:45 AM

2013-12-10T11:45:04-05:00

It's just my opinion but I am tired of buying new uniforms.
They need to just get a uniform and stick with it. There are more important
things that we could be spending our money on than this.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Dec 11 at 2013 9:57 AM

2013-12-11T09:57:25-05:00

SGT AJ, I agree with you brother! Lets keep the old stuff unless the army wants to issue me the new ones or bring back the old school ones which were cheap and simple. Did I say cheap? Army PTs should not cost more than Jordans.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2013 11:59 AM

2013-12-11T11:59:24-05:00

It will be 2015 before the Army starts giving them to basic soldiers and then another year or two until they are mandatory for all. This is pretty much the same as when we switched from the old greys to the current uniforms. Since I have hated the current heavy, expensive uniforms I am looking towards the new release especially if it gets rid of that F$%^ing PT belt. Now I am sure some high speeds will think it should be kept, probably the same ones who made Soldiers with the new fully reflective uniforms wear a PT belt, but that thing needs to disappear. Improving the uniform and learning from mistakes is never a problem. One of your complaints, the turtle neck, is removed from the uniform setup. Take a second to look at the good side of a new uniform instead of wanting to stay with a broken uniform.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2013 12:06 PM

2013-12-11T12:06:49-05:00

This may sound silly but coming from a female perspective I would love if they made sizes that fit me better. I understand women are the minority and such but part of being a Soldier is at least looking the part. The smallest sizes still look like I am wearing a baggy ill-fitting PT uniform. The shirt sleeves at least reach my elbows. I would at least like to try to look squared away so I am excited for the new uniform because I am told it will fit me better and my female counterparts.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2013 12:20 PM

2013-12-11T12:20:51-05:00

SGT, I think I came to a conclusion the shorts are by far the worst.

Response by LTC Jason Bartlett made Dec 11 at 2013 9:19 PM

2013-12-11T21:19:59-05:00

This is what my first PT uniform looked like, we wore a unit shirt for the top (light blue trim and white, Top of the Rock 3-19 IN). Trust me no one has anything to complain about just be lucky your not wearing banana suits.

Response by SFC Robert Alsup made Dec 17 at 2013 2:00 PM

2013-12-17T14:00:22-05:00

Why is the current PT uniform still called Improved? IPFU(Improved Physical Fitness Uniform) replaced the old one years ago. How about just PFU? Will the next one be called the New and Improved Physical Fitness Uniform (NIPFU)

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2014 11:46 PM

2014-01-23T23:46:03-05:00

The link attached below provides the most current info I've seen regarding the APFU.

http://soldiersystems.net/2013/07/26/more-on-the-new-army-physical-fitness-uniform/

Additional Details On The New Army Physical Fitness Uniform - Soldier Systems Daily

This is the briefing provided to senior Army leaders regarding the new Army Physical Fitness Uniform. I am no longer in the Army but as a former Soldier, I really like what they’ve done. Traditional...

Response by CPT Mike M. made Jan 24 at 2014 12:09 AM

2014-01-24T00:09:55-05:00

They're still in testing phase. There's one unit here at Fort Hood that's wearing them. Not sure when the official "beta test" will be complete and they'll be ready to dish them out to the rest of us.

Response by SFC Timothy Riser made Mar 29 at 2014 6:15 PM

2014-03-29T18:15:13-04:00

Bland? Have you seen previous uniforms?

I don't like the current IPFU but it is 100 times better than what we had in the past. I don't think the current IPFU should be such a priority, if it isn't broke don't fix it. We have more important things we should be using our money for in regards to research and development

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Apr 1 at 2014 12:40 AM

2014-04-01T00:40:28-04:00

I hope this doesn't sound weird, but I think the current shorts are sloppy and too long. I am not saying we should have PT shorts that look like the Marines, but I am an avid runner and a cardio nut so having comforable shorts is a very important to me.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 12:48 AM

2014-04-01T00:48:36-04:00

As mentioned, the army would spend money on the production of the ipfu regardless of what version or design it is, but the real problem comes from the R&D. The money spends Ridiculous amounts of money on revamping things that do not need revamping. Or worse yet, things that need revamping, but never see update. The pt uniform falls into the former. It doesn't need to have funds invested into it's revision if it works. Put this money into soldiers pockets. Put it into installation renovation. Put it into into rebuilding the decrepit schools on post. There are ways to invest this money wisely, and the pt uniform is not it... Particularly when we will still have to buy it out of our pockets (lord know the clothing allowance stretches so far as it is)... And then still be required wear the god awful infamous pt belt.

Complete waste of precious money, tha is dwindling as it is...

Much like the initiative to revamp the duty uniform... What a cluster that turned out to be.

Response by SSG Robert Pierce made Jul 27 at 2014 1:28 PM

2014-07-27T13:28:22-04:00

SGT Johnson,

I can remember there was a survey sent out to all Leaders giving them the opportunity to voice their desired changes to the uniform. I'm proud to say that I took part in that. No, I do not agree on the financial issues that come with the production of the uniform. In theory I feel the Army should manufacture the uniforms and prepare them for sales once our Nation' s debt ratio subsides. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've had to ask a Soldier, "Where's your reflective belt"? The reflection strip on the IPFU Jacket we wear now always wears off to include the pt shorts. When the time is right I think we should transition into the new pt uniform.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 31 at 2014 11:49 AM

2014-07-31T11:49:22-04:00

I really don't get why we have spent so much money on uniforms, changes in slight color scheme. Let's go back to BDUs and DCUs, change the pockets on them and get it over with. How much have we as the DoD spent on Uniforms in the past 10-12 years? Now we're handing out pink slips to deployed soldiers? I think someone in Higher needs to get their shit straight. That's my 2 cents.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 31 at 2014 8:59 PM

2014-07-31T20:59:06-04:00

What is wrong with the current ones? Too many uniforms. A total waste of money to field test something that really does not matter how it looks as it has nothing to do with deployment (not being seen by enemy). Why bother? Yet another way to punish everyone by making them pay for something that never needed to be changed. I bet someone got an award for this and now has a job lined up after they retire.

What a waste!

Response by 1LT Nick Kidwell made Jul 31 at 2014 10:33 PM

2014-07-31T22:33:55-04:00

How is this not high-vis for road PT? And what ever happened to road guards in reflective vests?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2014 2:51 AM

2014-08-01T02:51:59-04:00

2 things I'm looking forward to... not having the elastic bottoms on the pants and having a shirt that isn't a burlap sack in humidity. The current shirt is ridiculous - the neck is too tight and it holds more water than a sponge.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2014 10:35 AM

2014-08-01T10:35:53-04:00

Thanks for sharing the info! I know everyone in my class will be very pleased to hear the improvements. I'm not too excited about the color, but the most important changes (pocket size, fit, and material) are certainly welcomed.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2014 1:22 PM

2014-08-01T13:22:52-04:00

Saw these while I was at Ft Sill. They look better and they are apparently more comfortable in heat and cold.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2014 8:19 AM

2014-08-02T08:19:32-04:00

I'm curious to try the new uniforms, but I don't have a strong hate for the current ones like so many people seem to.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2014 4:22 PM

2014-08-02T16:22:42-04:00

I really did not have a problem with our current PTs except for the occasional pair of shorts that would ride in the front. However the new PTs look a lot more comfortable. Plus I remember when I was still an AASLT instructor, we would always see a soldier wearing the new PTs around III Corps HQ during PT and we as the instructors would all say that they looked a whole lot more comfortable. But all in all I'm ready for this change

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2014 3:08 PM

2014-08-11T15:08:05-04:00

Air Force has changed their PT since I have been in and for the most part it was good but they did have some hiccups. The original pants and shorts were really crappy material and the shorts had mesh in them like swim shorts, that was really stupid like we were not suppose to cut it out but everyone did. They just need to have a lot of input not just officers and higher ups. Actually ask young service members their opinion.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2014 9:22 PM

2014-08-11T21:22:01-04:00

I'm not too fond of the color scheme. But this isn't a fashion show. Or is it?

Response by LTC Paul Heinlein made Aug 11 at 2014 9:39 PM

2014-08-11T21:39:14-04:00

Good luck doing PT in the Summer Time in the Southeast, Midwest, Southwest US where most of our Army Bases are! I place ten to one odds when the heat cramps and heat stroke stats go up, Senior Leadership is going to be scratching their heads trying to figure out why and end up blaming the Team, Squad, Platoon and Company Level leadership for the failure! Just my two cents.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2014 10:59 PM

2014-08-11T22:59:03-04:00

I am excited about it. There is even an option to buy an improved PT shirt over the standard issued one. This great. We need to keep up with regular fitness gear. Our PTs are old and aren't that great. There has been a lot of improvements to this uniform. I for one welcome it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2014 11:10 PM

2014-08-11T23:10:57-04:00

This change was a long time in the making. I remember years back taking numerous surveys on what my preferences / suggestions were for a new APFU. At that time, I also remember telling myself "why is the Army worried about changing the APFU?". Now, that it has been decided, I am actually pretty excited for the change. Its like those times when your shopping for a new civilian "PT" clothes, its not that you need them, you just want them... I always feel a little extra motivation when Im in new gear for some reason. I for one am actually a fan of the black and gold colors (says that pittsburgh steelers fan)!

Response by SFC Scott Carroll made Aug 12 at 2014 8:24 AM

2014-08-12T08:24:26-04:00

Love how even with the new color scheme and the big yellow "V" on the jacket you are still going to have to wear the "PT belt of POWER".

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2014 9:16 AM

2014-08-17T09:16:46-04:00

With all the budget cuts, the Army felt it necessary for a whole new design that will cost soldier's more???

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 21 at 2014 3:00 PM

2014-08-21T15:00:48-04:00

I like it!! My only question is though...... How much can we take form the Rangers before they go crazy? First the black beret, and now their prized colors!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 21 at 2014 10:11 PM

2014-08-21T22:11:56-04:00

I like it. They addressed the black color issue with a lighter fabric so it ends up working out or so they say. Not to mention many unit PT shirts are black anyways.

I think they said that the reason its not reflective is because they don't want to get rid of the PT belt. I bet if they kept it reflective the cost would be more expensive (These PTs are supposed to be cheaper than the current), then Soldiers would complain about that too.

Maybe they'll let us wear fivefingers and use MP3 players during PT next...I can dream.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 22 at 2014 1:58 PM

2014-08-22T13:58:28-04:00

I think its an extraordinary waste of money and resources. They are talking about cutting Soldier numbers, Soldier benefits, but have no issue spending MILLIONS and you know that's not exaggerated number, on a new PT uniform? In my opinion its fraud waste and abuse.

Some new company just took Uncle Sam to the cleaners. While at the same time Uncle Sam trying to take benefits from Soldiers.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 22 at 2014 2:16 PM

2014-08-22T14:16:42-04:00

Yet one more waste of money. Old timers like me are asking "AGAIN"???? This is the second PT uniform change in my career...add to that two Class C uniform changes and then ASUs....its getting old. That is not even counting the DCUs and true multi-cams for deployment. Does ever new Army Chief of Staff and/or Sergeant Major of the Army need their "own" uniform. Hopefully these are not required until October 2017 like I rumor says because if the Army continues on it's current path I will be retired by then.

Response by SFC Kevin (Ishmeil) Barnett (Retired) made Aug 22 at 2014 4:47 PM

2014-08-22T16:47:21-04:00

I don't know how true this is, but I was told that a bunch of folks were getting money on these changes of these different uniforms. I can understand some changes but 4 PT uniform changes in a span of 26 yrs? Don't know if that is too much or not enough. Correct me if I am wrong on the below PT uniform changes.

1. Banana Suit
2. Army Gray
3. New Army Gray
4. New Army Black

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 22 at 2014 9:18 PM

2014-08-22T21:18:04-04:00

Dislike it. Concepts incorporated into it are great, but the color is all wrong. One of the major points was to add good reflective qualities. What's the point of wearing all black (except for hiding dirt) just to have to wear a reflective belt again!

Response by CPT Jacob Swartout made Aug 22 at 2014 10:48 PM

2014-08-22T22:48:13-04:00

Wearing black PTs in hot temperatures....is that wise?

Response by CW3 Ian Mains made Aug 23 at 2014 12:05 PM

2014-08-23T12:05:29-04:00

I don't see where the big improvements are, well, at least enough to merit a wholesale change in our APFU. They have the better shirt, which will not be issued, because it is "less durable". Also, not a fan of the black shirt. They had a golden opportunity to slay the PT belt once and for all and missed the boat completely. I am just hoping I can somehow avoid this and retire with the black and gray, but I have a sneaking suspicion that I will not be able to. It's all fun and games until some high speed Soldier gets killed when they are running in the dark.

Response by MAJ Timothy Hale made Aug 23 at 2014 2:37 PM

2014-08-23T14:37:32-04:00

Remember folks that we will always have change...as each new day brings new challenges. I was there at the onset when we wore the Banana suits through the old and new Army Grey into the Army Black...

When I was a Company Commander (Med Co) at the Interim Brigade Combat Team (Yeah, remember that before we had the Units of Action and Stryker Brigades), this evolutionary step... it wasn't perfect, wasn't close to the version that we have now. But it was a start and we tried to make the best of it at the Company level where it mattered. I recall reading a white paper that spoke to a different transformation. One in which the Army went through Eight major redesigns in the 80 years following the turn from the 19th Century, it included a Motorized Rifle Regiment and other versions of a Regimental Triad.
What am I trying to say here? We are a creature of habit, an organization that, for good and bad, is in constant flux in response to the environment that we live, train and fight in. As that environment changes, we need to change with it. Hopefully to a point that prepares us for being better prepared to engage and overcome the adversities that come with both recurring (OEF) and new enemies (ISIS). I understand the need of the Soldier to gripe and complain, we all do.
But try to keep it in perspective and truly question that rationale if and only if it impedes your ability to train for and conduct the mission that we all signed up to do. Support and defend the Constitution of our Nation.

Response by CW3 Terry Tanner made Aug 30 at 2014 8:49 AM

2014-08-30T08:49:29-04:00

There will always be change in the Army and yes in my time I've seen 4 PT uniform changes. I personally believe the change for an advanced performance material is the right one. Although I like the color black, I think it could be dangerous in the dark and very hot in the sun. The moisture wicking material may take care of the heat concern and the yellow print may be extremely reflective. I know I was sent a survey on this subject, and submitted my suggestions. I would be curious to know if the colors chosen were based on the survey submissions, which would mean out of the choices we were given we are getting what we suggested.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Aug 31 at 2014 5:00 PM

2014-08-31T17:00:14-04:00

Now that I am retired, I can leave feedback from my heart.

Response by SSgt Gregory Guina made Aug 31 at 2014 5:47 PM

2014-08-31T17:47:11-04:00

Sir if I had to guess the owner of the company that is making the new uniform is a newly retired General or a soon to be retired General will soon be joining the board of directors of the company.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2014 7:33 PM

2014-08-31T19:33:58-04:00

Nothing is wrong with the pt uniform

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Aug 31 at 2014 7:53 PM

2014-08-31T19:53:48-04:00

Side note....solid grey is not a pattern. I think we should go plaid.

Response by CW2 Ernest Krutzsch made Aug 31 at 2014 8:20 PM

2014-08-31T20:20:45-04:00

Nothing was wrong with the PT Uniform from the 1970's, you do PT in the damn things not a formal inspection, they could have changed the fabric, as needed, but shorts are shorts and tee shirts are tee shirts, sweats are sweats, most troops are not going to the Olympics and don't need a suit that resists the wind and makes you run 1/10 of a mile an hour faster, they need to be able to do PT in them. The reversible yellow/black tee with yellow shorts allowed for just that!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 1 at 2014 10:52 AM

2014-09-01T10:52:36-04:00

New materials a good idea? Definitely.

New color? Meh, last time I checked all black is the worst thing to wear outdoors in the summertime.

Heat casualties galore!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2014 3:30 PM

2014-09-11T15:30:43-04:00

You watch, some commander somewhere is going to mandate that because the uniforms are so dark that you have to run with flashlights... just like basic trainees. Our leaders advocate that safety should never be an afterthought however this decision indicates that safety was an afterthought as they designed these uniforms. Bust out the reflective belts and lights. Oh and even worse for those that live in hot climates - black PTs in extremely hot places... genius! Regardless how many neat features this uniform has, the color is where they went wrong.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2014 3:31 PM

2014-09-11T15:31:40-04:00

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2014 5:16 PM

2014-10-03T17:16:00-04:00

black and yellow. black and yellow.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 16 at 2014 9:31 AM

2014-10-16T09:31:54-04:00

While I agree with CW2 Krutzsch, the Air Force should take note of the improvements the Army is implementing in the new PT uniform. The pocket for id's/CAC's is a upgrade!

I'm actually surprised the branches have not worked together on a single style of PT uniforms with different color schemes for each branch.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 18 at 2014 11:13 PM

2014-10-18T23:13:18-04:00

They said a whole lot of great things about the current uniform when they changed to it.

My guess is I will have to buy a bunch of new uniforms that won't be any better than the old uniforms they will just such differently than the old uniform.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2014 11:11 PM

2014-10-27T23:11:16-04:00

Has anyone started wearing them yet? I am curious about its reviews.

Response by MAJ Jim Woods made Oct 29 at 2014 6:20 PM

2014-10-29T18:20:57-04:00

PT Uniform in my day was STARCHED fatigue uniform and shined combat boots (and you couldn't take the shirt off or roll the sleeves up (Ft. Benning in July sucked swamp water). I have an opinion about todays PT Uniform ...... I'm jealous......no matter what it looks like. But the reflective belts in war zones? Just paint a target on me....... good think that most Hajjis couldn't shoot.

On the FOB I got reamed out by a Marine Gunny for not having my reflective belt on, not being in the proper uniform (I was a contractor) and having both ear buds in my ears (I have 80% hearing loss and couldn't have heard squat without my aids). The butt chewing felt good..... Like old times. My ever present Battle/Ranger Buddy had to tell me when the siren went off cause' I couldn't hear it. I was the joke of the FOB. I slept right through the incoming and sirens. I can still shoot though and thats all that mattered!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 30 at 2014 5:42 AM

2014-10-30T05:42:08-04:00

I hated the LS turtlenecks too until I got to Fort Carson haha :)

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2014 3:59 AM

2014-11-01T03:59:03-04:00

I don't really like them. In my old Battalion (ETS'd), we never wore the grey shirts. Just our battalion or company shirts with the black shorts. But as for the look, changing color doesn't do much. Not a change worth the money spent to do so. Whoever is in charge of the changes should be relieved of duty.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 5 at 2014 6:45 PM

2014-11-05T18:45:39-05:00

Another unnecessary expense.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2014 3:17 PM

2014-12-24T15:17:09-05:00

I think that the new PT uniform looks nice, of course I could say that they could have spent the money elsewhere if anything the improvements that they made will definitely be a plus,I actually didn't mind the appearance of the old uniform if they had made the improvements and still kept the same colors that would have been fine with me, I honestly think OD Green is a nice color, I sure do miss those old marshmallow sweat suits, they were petty comfortable

Response by SPC Erica Simonsen made Dec 26 at 2014 9:33 PM

2014-12-26T21:33:42-05:00

I think a lot of soldiers are going to end up severely sun burned and over heated in this. They look nice, but aren't very practical due to the color. The grey heather pt uniforms of the mid 90s were great and not sure why they changed them....or why we continue to focus so much on military uniforms so frequently when it is rather costly to conduct "studies" on them, implement them and then for the soldiers to keep purchasing over and over.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 3 at 2015 3:54 AM

2015-01-03T03:54:15-05:00

I mean honestly, did they have to change the ENTIRE PT uniform? Why couldn't they just take the SS/LS shirts and change their material? And why did they have to go with black and no reflective elements. Now I'm going to be worried about getting hit by some asshat that's late for PT hitting me at oh dark crack of ass.

And do we really need a PT uniform to be able to do PT? Just show up in running shoes, white socks, black under armour shorts and grey t-shirt and do PT. Those PT pants and jacket are like running with a parachute deployed behind you.

And before someone pees themselves crying uniformity, we're never completely uniform. You have Soldiers wearing every color of running shoe, some wear green gloves in winter while others wear black. Hell, I've seen some Soldiers wear those damned brown neck gaiters in 30 degree weather. Those look like a bucket of smashed assholes.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jan 3 at 2015 5:13 AM

2015-01-03T05:13:23-05:00

I recently paid of summer PTs, and I don't have the receipt anymore. They should have stayed with the grey sweats because those were simply and cheap.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2015 1:17 PM

2015-05-07T13:17:16-04:00

The APFU is both good and bad (hope for the best, plan for the worst, & get something in the middle).
THE GOOD: The shorts are fantastic with a built in liner like the bike shorts most of us already wear under the current version, improved pockets (2) for keys/ID etc. The shirts are comfortable with some form of moisture wicking, no more turtle neck on the LS, and a sewn in square for name marking. The jacket and pants have adjustable cuffs and the material no longer makes a lot of noise when you walk or your arm touches the torso.
THE BAD: The LS shirt is thin like the SS so warmth is an issue. Neither the jacket nor the pants are lined so cold weather is going to be a serious challenge.
THE UGLY: The supply chain was already strained keeping up with the old APFU, when the roll out took place for the new version the closest active duty base to me (3 hours) had only received size L shorts and did not expect to receive any additional shipments in the immediate future.
*** The PT Belt is still our required force field against all threats as the reflective material was removed as both a cost saving measure and in consideration of tactical environments.

Response by CH (MAJ) William Beaver made May 7 at 2015 5:08 PM

2015-05-07T17:08:21-04:00

Two thumbs up!

Response by CH (MAJ) William Beaver made May 7 at 2015 5:09 PM

2015-05-07T17:09:21-04:00

Hey !!!! Where 's the PT belt? That Soldier is outta uniform!

Response by SGT Frank Leonardo made May 7 at 2015 5:23 PM

2015-05-07T17:23:33-04:00

Not to big on black when it is hot out but looks are ok

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2015 12:22 PM

2015-10-23T12:22:37-04:00

Mixed feelings about this. Yes change is hard economically and socially, but change is also good.
Personally the black PTs are more modern when compared to the grey ones, dispite them being the same design. I do appreciate the built in "spandex".
On the other hand, having to buy new uniforms is a bit of a hassle and burden.
However m, that's the Army we serve in and we should be adaptive in all aspects.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2015 11:46 PM

2015-10-26T23:46:07-04:00

I agree with you on this one. Uniform changes are getting old really quick. Pick it, and stick with it. I was fine with the BDUs and the grey sweats. I prefer to spend my annual clothing maintenance on my current uniform (sewing, dry cleaning, new boots, etc.) as opposed to buying a new uniform all together. Change can be good, but when it changes every couple of years, it gets exhausting. I understand the thought process behind trying to improve "combat readiness", but we have more important things to worry about than the uniform color.

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Oct 28 at 2015 6:17 PM

2015-10-28T18:17:46-04:00

I would love to have this PT uniform back in 60s.

Response by SPC Benjamin Izaguirre made Oct 30 at 2015 3:05 PM

2015-10-30T15:05:46-04:00

That PT uniform is nice wish they had that when I was in the army.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 25 at 2016 4:40 PM

2016-03-25T16:40:02-04:00

yea, why does the AAFES online store sell Unisex AND Female jackets?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 25 at 2016 4:46 PM

2016-03-25T16:46:22-04:00

The song "Black and yellow " should now be played at all PT formations.

Response by LTC Jason Bartlett made Mar 25 at 2016 6:04 PM

2016-03-25T18:04:32-04:00

Terrible uniform. color to quality just another poor choice.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 5 at 2016 10:38 PM

2016-04-05T22:38:21-04:00

Looks better than the Navy's PTU. Worst athletic gear ever.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 14 at 2017 3:34 PM

2017-09-14T15:34:24-04:00

I personally like the shorts better with the build in spandex

Response by SGT David Petree made Sep 16 at 2017 1:44 AM

2017-09-16T01:44:29-04:00

some body for got the safety factor, when they picked the color. If you want to snick around in low light it is great. Work good in the woods. Very bad running down a asphalt rode early in the morning. Then there's having heat stroke in the summer. Really where's the safety guy with all them safety rules ?? Someone was NOT thinking.

Response by PV2 Duane Schlender made Sep 16 at 2017 4:29 AM

2017-09-16T04:29:13-04:00

I would love to have a couple sets.. Anyone willing to toss me a line? Lol...

Response by SP5 Peter Keane made Sep 16 at 2017 11:01 AM

2017-09-16T11:01:56-04:00

This is the PT uniform I used.