SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member 1285505 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> What do you think will happen to the 1st female combat engineer who went AWOL, deserted, and then turned herself in? 2016-02-06T23:04:35-05:00 SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member 1285505 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> What do you think will happen to the 1st female combat engineer who went AWOL, deserted, and then turned herself in? 2016-02-06T23:04:35-05:00 2016-02-06T23:04:35-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 1285513 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Possible Article 15. But this is basic so just recycle her to Day 1 and keep it moving Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2016 11:06 PM 2016-02-06T23:06:24-05:00 2016-02-06T23:06:24-05:00 A1C Private RallyPoint Member 1285515 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Discharge Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2016 11:07 PM 2016-02-06T23:07:42-05:00 2016-02-06T23:07:42-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 1285527 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Failure to adapt.... Discharge! Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2016 11:11 PM 2016-02-06T23:11:03-05:00 2016-02-06T23:11:03-05:00 CPT Mark Gonzalez 1285530 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Article 15, and discharge. Response by CPT Mark Gonzalez made Feb 6 at 2016 11:12 PM 2016-02-06T23:12:07-05:00 2016-02-06T23:12:07-05:00 SFC William Farrell 1285533 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How long has she been gone? That should dictate the appropriate punishment. Just read the she was Dropped From the Rolls (DFR) as a deserter so Id say court-martial and then whatever they decide along the lines of the men who have done the same. No different because she's a female with a husband and child at home. Response by SFC William Farrell made Feb 6 at 2016 11:12 PM 2016-02-06T23:12:49-05:00 2016-02-06T23:12:49-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 1285557 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="486039" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/486039-36b-financial-management-technician-166th-av-bde-first-army-div-west">SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member</a> Other than honorable discharge. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2016 11:22 PM 2016-02-06T23:22:20-05:00 2016-02-06T23:22:20-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 1285592 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>She will be processed just like previous Trainees who have pulled similar stunts in TRADOC; this is nothing new except for the media hype. There's a slim chance based upon her personal circumstances that she could be a day one recycle. However, from a former Commander's perspective, I just see a discharge based on failure to adapt. I'd rather not take that chance of keeping her on the books for it to happen again. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2016 11:39 PM 2016-02-06T23:39:13-05:00 2016-02-06T23:39:13-05:00 SN Greg Wright 1285770 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="486039" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/486039-36b-financial-management-technician-166th-av-bde-first-army-div-west">SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member</a> The issue isn't that she has a vagina. The issue is that she doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to follow through with something she committed to. This also happens to owners of a penis. This is, in short, a non-story. She's a douchebag. Plenty of those in both genders. Pass her over, and keep looking for the next gem. Response by SN Greg Wright made Feb 7 at 2016 1:08 AM 2016-02-07T01:08:54-05:00 2016-02-07T01:08:54-05:00 Capt Seid Waddell 1285837 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Same as a male combat engineer. Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Feb 7 at 2016 2:44 AM 2016-02-07T02:44:20-05:00 2016-02-07T02:44:20-05:00 PO2 Sam Tkach 1285874 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't know all the circumstances, so I can't render an opinion. Response by PO2 Sam Tkach made Feb 7 at 2016 4:58 AM 2016-02-07T04:58:27-05:00 2016-02-07T04:58:27-05:00 SCPO Joshua I 1285888 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Send her home like they do everybody else that pulls this stunt. Response by SCPO Joshua I made Feb 7 at 2016 6:12 AM 2016-02-07T06:12:28-05:00 2016-02-07T06:12:28-05:00 SGM Steve Wettstein 1285997 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They will probably just process her out with more than likely an OTH discharge. Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Feb 7 at 2016 8:56 AM 2016-02-07T08:56:04-05:00 2016-02-07T08:56:04-05:00 Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS 1286005 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Investigation into the facts of the case leading to possible Art 15/Summary CM then likely administrative discharge.<br /><br />NO ONE wants this to be a media circus. Everyone wants this to just quietly go away. If she wants to stay in the Army, the Command will likely work with her (day 1 recycle) and do everything in their power to make her a "perfect soldier" from this day forward. If she doesn't, they will likely work with her, and get her out the door as quietly as possible, and make it "appear" as non-punitive as possible. We don't want anyone who doesn't want to be here either. They're a liability, and just a problem waiting to boil over in the future. Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Feb 7 at 2016 9:01 AM 2016-02-07T09:01:56-05:00 2016-02-07T09:01:56-05:00 MAJ Ken Landgren 1286756 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>EO punishment Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Feb 7 at 2016 3:06 PM 2016-02-07T15:06:49-05:00 2016-02-07T15:06:49-05:00 CPT Aaron Kletzing 1287515 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Promoted early? Jk...other than honorable discharge is my guess Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Feb 8 at 2016 12:28 AM 2016-02-08T00:28:10-05:00 2016-02-08T00:28:10-05:00 SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres 1289357 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>she should be brought before her unit and stripped of all rank and insignia, she should be forced to pay back any incentive pay/bonuses that she has accrued; then chaptered out. Dishonorable discharge on her DD214. Response by SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres made Feb 8 at 2016 10:55 PM 2016-02-08T22:55:28-05:00 2016-02-08T22:55:28-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 1289742 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Everything possible to not ever make her seen responsible. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 7:33 AM 2016-02-09T07:33:27-05:00 2016-02-09T07:33:27-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 1290186 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>she will PROBABLY get a slap on the wrist, then a reprimand, if she's a E4 or below, and 'naughty letter' "Don't do this again...etc" E5 -E7, bad ncoer but returned to service. I however, do not know all the facts though. Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 11:16 AM 2016-02-09T11:16:58-05:00 2016-02-09T11:16:58-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 1290340 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not knowing the specific circumstances it’s impossible to say. Article 15 at a minimum… then the trainee/soldier (I didn’t see the status of the person identified) has to be looked at closely to decide if the person can be recycled/salvaged, for lack of a better word. <br /><br />To me one of the best practices in the military is the ability of senior NCO’s and Officers to use discretion in cases like this for the good of the service “and” the person. Most of the time it works out, sometimes it doesn’t. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 12:11 PM 2016-02-09T12:11:53-05:00 2016-02-09T12:11:53-05:00 LTC Paul Labrador 1290792 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Bad conduct discharge. Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Feb 9 at 2016 2:26 PM 2016-02-09T14:26:24-05:00 2016-02-09T14:26:24-05:00 SGT Jay Ehrenfeld 1291912 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They will do nothing just slap her hand Response by SGT Jay Ehrenfeld made Feb 9 at 2016 10:54 PM 2016-02-09T22:54:38-05:00 2016-02-09T22:54:38-05:00 SFC Joseph Weber 1291970 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>None of your answers are what normally happens. She'll most likely be processed back in from her DFR and then given a Chapter 13 or 14. and sent on her way. Just like hundreds of trainees every year. Response by SFC Joseph Weber made Feb 9 at 2016 11:32 PM 2016-02-09T23:32:22-05:00 2016-02-09T23:32:22-05:00 SSgt Private RallyPoint Member 1296742 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>She was in less than 180 days. Chances are entry level separation for good of service with an re code of 3. If they allow moral waivers she'll be eligible to reenlist after a year(?). Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 11:33 PM 2016-02-11T23:33:03-05:00 2016-02-11T23:33:03-05:00 CPL Billy Shuttlesworth 1438019 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>She shouldn't of been a 12B to start with. I was a 12B for 8 years and a Desert Storm vet. There is a place for women in the Army just NOT IN combat MOS's. Response by CPL Billy Shuttlesworth made Apr 7 at 2016 10:11 PM 2016-04-07T22:11:53-04:00 2016-04-07T22:11:53-04:00 SPC(P) Carlos Santini 1466686 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know of a guy that deserted during training at Ft. Lenardwood, MO when I was there in March 2001 and he called the base after a few days telling them that he was sorry for leaving and whatever else he said. He got recycled to a new company and the last I heard he ended up finishing basic training. So it depends on the soldiers demeanor and what the command feels about the situation. Response by SPC(P) Carlos Santini made Apr 20 at 2016 4:18 PM 2016-04-20T16:18:29-04:00 2016-04-20T16:18:29-04:00 SGT John Ball 7634576 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>She should get the Big Chicken Dinner! Response by SGT John Ball made Apr 20 at 2022 8:10 PM 2022-04-20T20:10:53-04:00 2022-04-20T20:10:53-04:00 2016-02-06T23:04:35-05:00