SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member 4077232 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We&#39;ve all read articles on it, or seen them online. I want your opinions, what do you think the army considered obese, and in what ways do you think it&#39;s causing problems in the military? And how can it be solved? What does the army consider an obese soldier? 2018-10-26T18:39:11-04:00 SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member 4077232 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We&#39;ve all read articles on it, or seen them online. I want your opinions, what do you think the army considered obese, and in what ways do you think it&#39;s causing problems in the military? And how can it be solved? What does the army consider an obese soldier? 2018-10-26T18:39:11-04:00 2018-10-26T18:39:11-04:00 Maj John Bell 4077253 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Don&#39;t know about the Army, or the current USMC standard; but it used to be 18% body fat for men. I apologize but I did do not know what the standard was for women. Usually determined by skin pinch calipers, but A Marine could also submit a full body immersion or body density electric resistance test. Response by Maj John Bell made Oct 26 at 2018 6:46 PM 2018-10-26T18:46:23-04:00 2018-10-26T18:46:23-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 4077400 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Those who fail height &amp; weight and tape, regardless of how out of date BMI is. Oh, and those who simply look obese. It&#39;s worse if you can&#39;t pass the APFT. Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2018 7:54 PM 2018-10-26T19:54:15-04:00 2018-10-26T19:54:15-04:00 SGT Joseph Gunderson 4077711 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The military falls under the DoD (obviously), a government agency. Thus the military is going to use federal guidelines to designate those kinds of things. Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Oct 26 at 2018 10:08 PM 2018-10-26T22:08:02-04:00 2018-10-26T22:08:02-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 4077780 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When you see those articles about obese, they are referring to BMI. A BMI of 30 or higher is considered obese by the medical community. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2018 10:50 PM 2018-10-26T22:50:52-04:00 2018-10-26T22:50:52-04:00 LT Brad McInnis 4077890 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My 2 cents.. I don&#39;t know if they updated the BCI charts used, but when I was in they were horrible. Had a senior NCO, awesome sailor, big weightlifter, and he would fail the BCT every year because he was big. He became the unit&#39;s PT leader, and I took him to get a water buoyancy measurement, and every year I had to submit that with his record. Hopefully, that has changed since then... Response by LT Brad McInnis made Oct 27 at 2018 12:07 AM 2018-10-27T00:07:12-04:00 2018-10-27T00:07:12-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 4077951 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just look in the AR for ABCP - it&#39;s right there what&#39;s considered obese. They&#39;re allegedly reviewing that but we see how long those reviews take. They do need to find a better way because basing anything on the antiquated model of BMI is ridiculous. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2018 12:58 AM 2018-10-27T00:58:56-04:00 2018-10-27T00:58:56-04:00 2018-10-26T18:39:11-04:00