Posted on May 28, 2015
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If you were a recruiter, what would your angle be?
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COL Charles Williams
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While both are reserve components, and while both have been blurred since 911... ARNG is the state militia, and under the command of the governor in normal times... The guard belongs to the state, and routinely provides support to local, and state governments and law enforcement for a wide variety of contingencies. They can also be augmentation forces to the Regular Army, when needed. The Reserves are simply always just augmentation forces to the Active Army. The Guard seems much more exciting and relevant day in and day out.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Col Williams, respectfully, a point of contention here. The National Guard is actually not THE militia. It is made up of militia members (able bodied males) between 18-45, but only those members who have agreed to enlist as members willing to be called up for Federal service.
The following quote comes from the provided link.
Sen. Proctor (36 Cong. Rec. 125 (Dec. 9 1902): "The old law makes every able-bodied man in the country a member of the militia, and provides no further organization. This bill separates and makes a class which can be called into active service."

Proctor, at p. 305: "The National Guard is in full organization; it is already created and would naturally be first called upon if wanted for a limited time, and then the militia would be called upon."
http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2005/04/is_the_national.php
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Don't let the state governors fool you, there is so much more directive from National Guard Bureau (NGB) than you think. We do things much different than the active component but we are still held to their standards because folks at NGB are with the active component folks at the Department of the Army and Pentagon.
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COL Charles Williams
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Thanks SSG (Join to see) SSG Gerhard S.. Thanks for the comments and clarification. I appreciate the detail.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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You're welcome COL Charles Williams. I would also like to agree with SSG (Join to see) that the NG, at least in my experience is held to a high standard as evidenced by the number of units and commanders that were quite surprised to learn we were a National Guard LRS unit AFTER we had performed in an exemplary manner in theatre.
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1LT Infantry Officer
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First off, I am in the National Guard so that makes it pretty awesome. But there a lot of factors going on. Each state is different. I have looked at the Reserves too. Being how I am infantry there isn't a traditional infantry unit I could go too. But there are training and other duties that I could do as an infantry officer. You would really have too look at the surrounding units. I know promotion in the Reserves can be quicker and from I understand they can pay for travel. What really keeps me in the Guard is the combat arms side. I like infantry and want to try SF. I couldn't do that in the Reserves. Push in usually the state will offer more benefits to guard members also.
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1LT Infantry Officer
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SFC James Sczymanski I was referring to why I am in the Guard. I do realize that there is one infantry battalion that falls under a NG command for operational task org but I have no means of going to HI and being a part of that. I was saying there isn't any that I could go to.
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MSG Morgan Fiszel, CPCM, CFCM
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The guard offers jobs close to home with promotion opportunities close to home. The reserves cannot provide this. In the reserves the chances of having to travel hundreds of miles to drill is high. This makes leadership difficult also. In the guard most of your Soldiers will live in the immediate area.
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SFC Training Nco
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Your logic is completely flawed. I am a reservist and my previous unit was only 30 minutes from my house however, I as a reservist have the flexibility and availability to move from unit to unit across state lines for promotional positions as well as career fulfillment purposes. With the reserves as a Soldier with an MOS that has flexibility such as mine(68W) I can be in a multitude of positions and unit configurations such as; Instructor units, CSH units, Hospital units, and MP units or have the availability to do non-MOS specific training such as Drill Sergeant or Recruiter. The other benefit of the reserves is that I can not be called up by the State for relief or Police augmentation issues and whatever the Governor of the state needs.
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SPC Recruiting and Retention NCO (ANG)
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If it is a BENEFIT to not be called up by the State for relief or police augmentation issues, then wow SSG. Serving the country apparently does not include the community. I don't believe his logic is completely flawed. The semantics of his opening statement, maybe. However, the point he was bringing up is that in the Reseves is it highly likely that you will NOT be stationed close to home. As a 68W of course there would be a wide range of units open to you....everyone needs a medic.
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SFC Training Nco
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here is my justification for the benefit of not being activated during a state emergency take for example the civilian police officer or firefighter who as a Soldier is an 88M(truck Driver) or 42A(admin specialist) which is a better use of his skill set leaving him to do his civilian job or utilize him in his military specialty? That is the benefit of not being activated by the Guard. Now to the issue of HIGHLY LIKELY being stationed not close to home that is completely up to you if you are willing to accept that your promotions my take longer or be willing to change your MOS the possibility is great for you to be close to home. I personally have been stationed as far away as 350 miles from my house to 25 miles from my house and that was all my doing as I jumped on opportunities as they became available. Another thing that is different between the Reserves and Guard is that in the reserves their is access to missions nation wide you can accept and they are not always available to the guard.
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