What exactly is a Change of Rater NCOER? Is it a new one with different names on it, or is it an actual form that is called Change of Rater?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 02:00:52 -0500

The details are as follows. I was recently promoted, switched units and my old unit still owes me my NCOER. My final month at my unit I filled out my support page as needed. I am still waiting on my old unit to give finish that NCOER. Now with my new unit my Platoon SGT will now be my rater when he does my NCOER he will just put all of his information on the next NCOER? Correct? or is there an NCO CHANGE OF RATER ? my old or new platoon SGT needs to fill out? if so what exactly is a CHANGE OF RATER NCOER?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2019 2:58 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 02:58:26 -0500

AR 623-3, ch 3-40.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2019 3:43 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 03:43:04 -0500

Whenever your rater (typically your first line supervisor) changes, you are supposed to get a "change of rater" NCOER. It is the same as a standard NCOER, just the reason code being "change of rater" so that you do not have any gaps in rating time. Previous units are notorious for slacking on this, and if need be, you may need to get your current leadership to reach out to them if they are not giving you the NCOER, because they do owe it to you. There are some other options if there is an issue with getting it for some reason, but the proper way to go is to have a change of rater NCOER. Again, because you are not supposed to have gaps in your ratings as an NCO or an Officer. This all should have been explained to you when (and even before) you became an NCO. Have you never had an NCOER class before (at PLDC/WLC/BLC or some unit-level NCODP)? If not, this is all explained in AR 623-3 which you can download with your CAC from Army pubs online.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2019 6:32 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 06:32:48 -0500

You are an NCO, you need to review the regulation and ask questions about what you don't understand, as opposed to asking the random, faceless internet to explain an answer that I already spelled out in written form per regulation.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2019 7:03 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 07:03:05 -0500

As a NCO, you should be able to find the correct answer in the regulation. You need to take a hard look at yourself in the mirror and start educating yourself on basic NCO knowledge. The simple fact that you do not know about NCOERs, tells me that you have a lot to learn.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2019 10:35 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 10:35:04 -0500

SGT Private RallyPoint Member I understand you are a new NCO, and the information you have been provided by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member is correct.
You've already gotten the "you're an NCO, look it up before you ask," so I know you'll do that in the future.
The problem is your entire NCO support chain, or whatever that is referred to nowadays, gets a No Go for permitting you to transfer units without this being completed. You may have thought they were squared away, and they may believe they are squared away, but this shows they aren't. This is why you have to read every AR, DA Pam, FM, TM, and local corresponding policy memo/letter for every issue.
Don't assume competence based on grade, position, or level of education.

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Jan 27 at 2019 3:52 PM

SGT Joseph Gunderson — Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:52:57 -0500

What the hell are they teaching NCOs at WLC BLC whatever the hell they are calling it now?!

Response by LTC Ray Buenteo made Apr 5 at 2022 11:45 AM

LTC Ray Buenteo — Tue, 05 Apr 2022 11:45:37 -0400

Change of rater is the reason for the NCOER not a form.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2023 3:56 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:56:44 -0400

I love how all the NCOs on here just told you to look it up and didn’t give you the answer. That’s shitty leadership. You went looking for guidance and the answer and instead of being effective leaders they just told you to get bent. Shame on y’all. Do better. This is why our Soldiers are failing.