Posted on Aug 18, 2023
What, if any, is your opinion of GEN Patton?
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More specifically the reports and recorded history of his actions and behavior in the time period between the end of the war and his death.
Is it possible he may have suffered from TBI? Or is it more likely that adversaries were exaggerating or fabricating stories to discredit him?. Or was Gen. Pattons mental state possibly more deteriorated than what was reported, and Gen. Eisenhower was successful in covering the bulk of it up?
I am not seeking any replies that are intended to disrespect or discredit Gen. Patton in any way. I am only seeking others perception of the recorded history. So word your replies accordingly please.
Is it possible he may have suffered from TBI? Or is it more likely that adversaries were exaggerating or fabricating stories to discredit him?. Or was Gen. Pattons mental state possibly more deteriorated than what was reported, and Gen. Eisenhower was successful in covering the bulk of it up?
I am not seeking any replies that are intended to disrespect or discredit Gen. Patton in any way. I am only seeking others perception of the recorded history. So word your replies accordingly please.
Military History
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WWII World War Two
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The issue at hand is that there is no one alive that personally knew Patton. Those that did, and wrote books about it....you have to consider that they wrote from their point of view. All we can do is perceive and interpret what they wrote. Ego? Certainly. Results provided? Most definitely. Did he rub people the wrong way? Again, many a story tells that's a yes. Again, I can only go off what I read and hear.
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SPC James McCullough
Thats exactly what I was seeking Master Sargent. Your and others perspective. This question I proposed in regards to General Patton is only the beginning. In the very near future I will be posting more questions about other historic military leaders. Some of these questions as well as some of the leaders are highly controversial. This will undoubtedly generate some dialogue that will be heated and controversial as well. With that said, I would like to make it very clear that my intention is not to create division or to generate animosity amongst users of this platform. My intention is to bring about awareness of the consequences of passively standing by while a small select group of individuals are allowed to erase, subdue or cancel out the history of military leaders of this country and or their military accomplishments or lack there of. Our military history is what it is. Good bad right wrong or indifferent it should be allowed to stand for what it was, preserved in as accurate of detail as is possible. If we stand by passively and allow these individuals to proceed unabated in their efforts to rewrite military history then I believe we are saying that the service and sacrifices these men and women made for their country
doesn’t warrant the respect of the nation simply because a minority of people view them or their
actions, beliefs or convictions in an unfavorable light. Regardless if the majority of people agree or disagree with this minority groups views they will be allowed to continue their efforts due in large part to the fact that any individual or party voicing opposition to this minority group will be dealt with swiftly, including but certainly not limited to some derogatory term being used to identify them. Which results in others running scared and taking action to quickly distance themselves from this individual or party and even aligning themselves with the minority group with whom they may not entirely agree with. This Master Sargent is not limited to military history. This is going on across many social spectrums across this country of ours. These minority groups, regardless of their goals, or who they are. They have learned that being a minority group does by no means have to result in the inability to push forward with an agenda that the majority does not align themselves with. If done the right way, many in the majority who disagree with or do not support in principal the views, opinions and agendas of these minority groups will actually become some of the strongest and most effective supporters of these minority groups. Simply because they fear being viewed or labeled as, for instance homophobic, racist, antisemitic, rightwing radical, christian radical, isolationist, anti-immagration, gun loving radical, domestic terrorist, womanizing, sexist, seperationist, fascist, war monger and the list goes on and on. I have even been called a “Patriot” by a group of young people who used the term as if it were intended to insult me. So, as I said this may get a little heated but I encourage you to stay tuned. A little hint and perhaps insight into who is next on the list. Should provoke a little thought. I mean the mans property was confiscated by the United States without due process and turned into a National Cemetery. I believe he is due some respect. Respect that over the last decade plus that has been trampled upon. Its time this be discussed. Stay tuned Master Sargent as like Gen. Patton did I am sure I am about to rub some folks the wrong way. Though I learned a long time ago that I am responsible for my feelings and my feelings only. I cant control others feelings so I do not concern my self with that, at all.
doesn’t warrant the respect of the nation simply because a minority of people view them or their
actions, beliefs or convictions in an unfavorable light. Regardless if the majority of people agree or disagree with this minority groups views they will be allowed to continue their efforts due in large part to the fact that any individual or party voicing opposition to this minority group will be dealt with swiftly, including but certainly not limited to some derogatory term being used to identify them. Which results in others running scared and taking action to quickly distance themselves from this individual or party and even aligning themselves with the minority group with whom they may not entirely agree with. This Master Sargent is not limited to military history. This is going on across many social spectrums across this country of ours. These minority groups, regardless of their goals, or who they are. They have learned that being a minority group does by no means have to result in the inability to push forward with an agenda that the majority does not align themselves with. If done the right way, many in the majority who disagree with or do not support in principal the views, opinions and agendas of these minority groups will actually become some of the strongest and most effective supporters of these minority groups. Simply because they fear being viewed or labeled as, for instance homophobic, racist, antisemitic, rightwing radical, christian radical, isolationist, anti-immagration, gun loving radical, domestic terrorist, womanizing, sexist, seperationist, fascist, war monger and the list goes on and on. I have even been called a “Patriot” by a group of young people who used the term as if it were intended to insult me. So, as I said this may get a little heated but I encourage you to stay tuned. A little hint and perhaps insight into who is next on the list. Should provoke a little thought. I mean the mans property was confiscated by the United States without due process and turned into a National Cemetery. I believe he is due some respect. Respect that over the last decade plus that has been trampled upon. Its time this be discussed. Stay tuned Master Sargent as like Gen. Patton did I am sure I am about to rub some folks the wrong way. Though I learned a long time ago that I am responsible for my feelings and my feelings only. I cant control others feelings so I do not concern my self with that, at all.
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GySgt Charles O'Connell
SPC James McCullough - I have found that when people review historical events, it is only the event they focus on, and not the societal norms that caused or perpetuated the event/s. Essentially, what is abhorrent in todays society, was commonplace and accepted in the past.
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Yes, the right man at the right time. From what I've read of Gen. Patton, he was a man who longed for a place in military history, a place equal to that of his historical heroes. His greatest desire was to command an army in combat, and he packed the talent to achieve this goal. Market Garden was mentioned in other comments. Would it have had greater success had Patton been in command, an audacious leader, but more importantly a better strategist and tactician. I think he would have come up with a better plan than Montgomery, whose plan, while audacious, was flawed. I say this of course in hindsight. But I think that a Patton plan would have had greater chance of success than Montgomery's. Again, I say this in hindsight.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
I don't think Patton would have bought into a plan that was so tactically risky as Market Garden. Deep penetration of enemy territory along such a narrow axis of attack where the terrain restricted maneuver of the mechanized forces should have been seen as a crap shoot anyway.
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Amn Dale Preisach
Montgomery was a General with the same peccadillos as Patton. He knew this war would be in the History books. And even the thought of an operation such as Market Garden was more an attempt of political patronage than sound strategy.
An entrenched enemy, and skilled at combat Leaders. The German army was still fairly well supplied, . The whole of it was for The British to have their Press coverage and something for them to brag about.
Monty wasn't a brilliant strategist. Just knew who was who as it were.
An entrenched enemy, and skilled at combat Leaders. The German army was still fairly well supplied, . The whole of it was for The British to have their Press coverage and something for them to brag about.
Monty wasn't a brilliant strategist. Just knew who was who as it were.
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I think that Gen Patton did an excellent job of emulating his hero, Stonewall Jackson. He fought like Jackson. He was a master of maneuver. Did he piss of a lot of people? Yes, those who were less competent. Was he unwarrantedly acerbic? No, he was often frustrated. His allies were often far greater obstacles than his enemies. Bottom line: I would have rather served under him than any other.
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