What if HAMAS and HEZBOLLAH got bold - Would they Act?

2023-10-18T11:24:38-04:00

The other day when POTUS announced a trip to Israel in the middle of IDF combat preparations I was having coffee with some other veterans and non-veterans when these topics came up:

- Hey if HAMAS has a huge supply of rockets and Air Force 1 is on the ground and they launch say 150 of the missiles, what if the IRON Dome cannot catch them all and the plane is hit and destroyed on the ground in Israel?

- Would the Congress have the stomach and the courage to elect a Speaker NOW so that POTUS could request a Declaration of War as FDR did on 08 Dec 1941?

- Would VPOTUS Harris in the absence of a stranded or incapacitated POTUS be able to act to quickly work with Congressional leadership to respond, especially if the 25th Amendment required invoking?

- Would Defense then work immediately and closely with HLS to secure (i.e., seal) the US Borders and track down unvetted immigrants for deportation, especially if some are discovered to have Cartel or other adverse ties that could threaten the “…domestic tranquility…” to “…provide for the "...common defense…” of the USA?

- Would the Israeli PM confide in POTUS their plans to handle HAMAS (Why? or Why Not?)
These are just a few of the topics that arose. While each of us participated in this ‘lively discussion’ around these and other current topics, it was interesting to see how the media and social media were also responding. What are the thoughts of the RP family.

As always, please keep responses focused and respectfully to others willing to participate in this thread. Looking forward to understanding the pulse of the RP family on these few questions………………….

PS Located this commentary regarding "2018 Human Shield Legislation" (https://www.rallypoint.com/shared-links/biden-admin-ignores-law-to-sanction-hamas-and-hezbollah-for-civilian-shield-use-lawmakers-say). Humm! Why create legislation if it is NOT going to be acted upon. Terrorists, drug lords, criminals in general, and so "so-called - peaceful rioters" all deploy the tactic using human shields. If the law is not going to be used what difference does it make to have.

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Response by LTC Eugene Chu made Oct 18 at 2023 12:41 PM

2023-10-18T12:41:48-04:00

1. Attacking AF1 would require precision targeting. Hamas and Hezbollah would need specific intelligence tailored for fires (which does not fit their capabilities).
2. Hamas and Hezbollah rockets are unreliable for point targeting. The explosion at Gaza hospital may have from a misfire.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-says-islamic-jihad-rocket-misfire-caused-gaza-hospital-blast/

Israel says Islamic Jihad rocket misfire caused blast near Gaza hospital

After Hamas, Arab states blame Israel, IDF says analysis shows errant rocket fired by Gazan terror group hit Al-Ahli hospital's parking lot; videos appear to back Israel's position

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Oct 18 at 2023 1:08 PM

2023-10-18T13:08:47-04:00

The thought of Kamala Harris stepping in...she is incapable of stepping up...

Response by CPL LaForest Gray made Oct 18 at 2023 1:23 PM

2023-10-18T13:23:34-04:00

Biden arrives in Israel
Oct. 18
Under the threat of rocket strikes and heightened security, President Biden arrives in Israel Wednesday morning and is greeted with an embrace by Prime Minister Netanyahu on the tarmac of Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv.

During a joint appearance with Netanyahu, Biden says he is "proud to be here."

"I want to say to the people of Israel, their courage, their commitment, their bravery is stunning, it's really stunning," Biden says, vowing to supply Israel with whatever it needs to defend itself.

In response, Netanyahu says, "Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you for standing with Israel today, tomorrow and always."

At the Vatican in Rome, Pope Francis appeals for peace in the Middle East.

"Today our thoughts go to Israel and Palestine," the pope says. "Casualties are rising and the situation in Gaza is desperate. Please do everything possible to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe."

SOURCE : https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/timeline-surprise-rocket-attack-hamas-israel/story?id=103816006

Israel-Hamas conflict: Timeline and key developments

As Israelis were wrapping up the seven-day-long Jewish festival of Sukkot on Oct. 7, the horrifying sounds of sirens echoed across their country.

Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Oct 18 at 2023 4:03 PM

2023-10-18T16:03:44-04:00

I highly doubt this would never happen for a lot of reasons but probably the most obvious one would be "why?" They'd gain almost nothing compared to what they'd have to lose.

Response by SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM made Oct 19 at 2023 11:16 AM

2023-10-19T11:16:45-04:00

I WOULD NEVER WISH THAT ON ANYONE EVEN SLEEPY JOE BUT IF THAT WAS TO HAPPEN AND VP WAS CLUELESS, I THINK ALL THE CRAZY WARS AND SUPPORT TO OTHER COUNTRIES WOULD STOP AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD GO BACK TO EVERYDAY LIFE LIKE IT WAS. WITHOUT THESE CLOWNS IN OFFICE.

Response by 1SG Russell S. made Dec 16 at 2023 8:59 AM

2023-12-16T08:59:50-05:00

Rule 1: never, ever, underestimate your enemy