Posted on Mar 9, 2018
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My soldier left a weapon unattended (no ammo with it but still very much the point). I could go the regular physical corrective action but would rather do something creative yet effective to get the point across... any ideas?
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LTC Jeff Shearer
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Savanna, I have to be honest the ammo is not a huge deal in big picture. The weapon is the big deal. Get creative, but not necessarily nice. Get a rubber duck, aka rubber weapon make him/her keep it 24/7. The cant sign into the arms room lock it into a locker. They will have it with them all the time, at PT, *in the shower, in the latrine, at chow. Inform all the NCO's in the unit so they can help you keep taps on your incident waiting to happen. Savanna, I have slept with a rifle and pistol within hands reach in several counties. Anytime I showered I made sure someone was watching it and I knew where they would be as soon as I got out. It could be something as simple as an oversight, a temporary lapse. Weapon accountability is skill level 1. You be the one who fits this, you be the NCO who steps in and does whats right. You see a troop that needs some fixing, so fix 'em.
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1SG 1st Sergeant
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Mine would go to the shower with me. Protected from water of course. If you can't secure your assigned weapon you cannot secure the ones to your flanks fighting with you. Be creative but absolutely discipline that event sooner not later.
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LTC Jeff Shearer
LTC Jeff Shearer
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agree, agree, agree
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CPT Paul Bass
CPT Paul Bass
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and make it flaming pink !
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LTC Robin Gronovius
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Get a 2x4 about the length of a rifle, stencil the words "I left my rifle unattended" and make him carry the 2x4 around for the week.
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LTC Robin Gronovius
LTC Robin Gronovius
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Easier than dealing with the rubber duck rifle. In today's world, a rubber duck might cause a little too much distress when carrying it around base or at local restaurants off post. The label may make other soldiers take note and immediately answers the question of why he's toting around a piece of wood.
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SGT Richard Gocio
SGT Richard Gocio
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Have the soldier perform a close order drill with the 2x4 after every formation. Have members of the platoon "practice their knowledge of drill and ceremony" by putting the soldier through the paces. Peer pressure does wonders.
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CPO Arthur Weinberger
CPO Arthur Weinberger
5 mo
Great comment.
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SFC Frank Hart
SFC Frank Hart
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Rubber duck or 2x4, which ever but restriction to company area for one week, a clean rubber duck or 2x4 is a happy one. no getting a friend to watch the "weapon" Oh I forgot no slings, strings or other carrying device. If it looks like a weapon i.e. rubber duck then restricted to barracks to hammer home the failure for the married SM or we can go the UCMJ route.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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Tether the weapon to them. If you aren't going to be doing training with the weapons for a while, find yourself a rubber duck (fake rifle) and tether that to the Soldier. Maybe make them report every so often with the weapon. Make sure that you always do a counseling with the corrective action laid out that way they know exactly what to expect. This is for both you and the Soldier.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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1LT William Clardy - I like the way you think.
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1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
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SGT Joseph Gunderson, disciplinary action which teaches nothing is a waste of time and effort, so if you're going to do it, do it right. Just like wall-to-wall counseling should be reserved for the good troop that you're willing to bet a stripe on him learning to not repeat a mistake.
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1SG Dave Carello
1SG Dave Carello
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You truly took the words outa my mouth Sarge. Rubber ducks are wonderful thing, and they don't rust in the shower HINT!
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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1SG Dave Carello - I believe that almost every NCO who has dealt with a similar situation would have thought up something along the same lines.
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