Posted on Nov 13, 2015
MSgt John Carroll
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A debate started in my shop today when one of my EOD Techs (1) jokingly called another EOD Tech (2) a Nonner. (2) had never heard the word before and that started the debate. What is your definition of a Nonner? I have always been told that a Nonner is an insult for anyone that isn't a Maintainer. Others say it's someone who has a desk job. I personally find the term funny. I love being EOD so I embrace my Nonner status.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
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The way I understood it some time ago, it was any AFSC that was not a maintainer, or any AFSC that did not directly supported the flying mission. When I left Acft Maint to become a Medic, I got a rash of Nonner crap over that one... LMAO!!! Both your EOD Techs are Nonners! :)
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MSgt John Carroll
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Tech 1 is like me and embraces the nonner status. We find it funny since some people get really butthurt about it. Tech 2 had never heard it.
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SSgt Paul Esquibel
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I've always thought it was funny because MXS places this idea that if your not feeling their pain your some how lower vs most of all my friend in the Logistics career fields have all seen combat or been on 1yr FOB's, they would often refer to MXS a a nonner as well only meaning Non-Combatant
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Never heard the term used before today.. so can't help with a definition real or perceived.
But I will say.....I could not have done what needed to be done every day in support of the commander's goals or in support of my Soldiers without every one of the "Support" MOS's inside and outside the wire, fueler, clerk, Vet Tech, and all those at home as well supporting the family while we are gone. Of all the most "emotionally and aggressively charged "Discussions" I had in my career.. those "discussions" with pompous and egotistical "fighting Soldiers" about supporters were the worst and best
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MSgt Jeffrey Forer
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You are such a nonner!! Anybody that talks about his Commanders goals is a nonner!!
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MSgt 1 C6 X1 Cdc Writer
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Amen SGM. I was maintenance and when held up we'd participate in these sort of bits, but even then those of us with any sense knew we wouldn't just be held up but shut down if not for most of the 'Nonners' (at least the competent ones anyway).
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CCMSgt Physicist
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Wingnuts, Nonners, FOBbits...it's time we quit feeding the trolls. Everyone has their strengths. Everyone has their part.
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SSgt Integrated Avionics Systems (Heavy)
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Nonner originated as a shortened term of "Non Sortie Producing Motherfucker" quite some time ago. So technically yes. Buuuuuut it's main application is for the desk jockies. I've not once been on the flight line looking at EOD goin "fuckin nonners".
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SMSgt Thor Merich
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I have never heard the term before. But it seems to me that every AFSC supports the flying mission in some way or another. If my troops were not protecting the maintainers on the flight line, the maintainers would be too busy protecting themselves to work. It seems to me that Nonner is a term that only applies to maintainers who other maintainers don't view as productive. Since the vast majority of the AF is not on the flight line, most of us are Nonners.
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MSgt Jeffrey Forer
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The purest definition of Nonner is those who do not fly or fix aircraft. But it is rarely directed at Cops or EOD. All of this Nonner stuff goes back to Ute days. Way back in the day if Maintenance met there sortie goals they would get a day off to do the stuff they were not able to get done normally (i.e. finance, MPF, or medical). Back then if you didn't get the day off you were a Non-sortie producer or Nonner. The issue has gotten muddy in recent years because the "Goal Day" has been used by commanders for about anything, like DUIs, and everyone gets the day off sometime except Maintenance.
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SMSgt Thor Merich
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MSgt Jeffrey Forer - Thank you for the information. It makes sense now.
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MSgt James Mullis
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I don't recall hearing the term before, but it's really funny and clearly a word only used among friends. I wonder how many people would use it to describe the Finance guy helping them when their pay is scr@@@ up. I just can see it "hey you Nonner, what's wrong with my pay?"
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MSgt John Carroll
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I assure you that the finance guy is a nonner all day every day until they need finance help.
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That finance guy who works 09-1500 Monday through Thursday? I almost lost my mind in the finance office when they told me they lost all my BAs paperwork I turned in 5 months ago. Somehow, even though they get easy office hours, and such a relaxed work environment, they still manage to screw up everything.
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MSgt Jeffrey Forer
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I think that the term was designed for finance
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1stSgt Sergeant Major/First Sergeant
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Wow. Last time I checked, there are only 2 jobs in the Military. Infantry and support. That is all.
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MSgt James Lohr
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There's no Infantry in the Air Force...
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SSgt Alex Robinson
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I never heard the term before today...
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SrA Kathleen Cuyler
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I love working in the command post
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MSgt Jimmy Mullins
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When did the term nonner start to be used? I was active duty and in aircraft maintenance for 21 years and don't remember that term being used.
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