SGT Private RallyPoint Member 7298731 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A soldier in my section has had real world shoulder problems his whole military career. I guess the PA lessened his restrictions over time. He felt the need to change something in his profile which surprised me because he really never was a bad soldier. Someone caught wind of it and I guess our company commander is going to handle it. What punishment is he likely to receive? 2021-09-26T12:44:09-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 7298731

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A soldier in my section has had real world shoulder problems his whole military career. I guess the PA lessened his restrictions over time. He felt the need to change something in his profile which surprised me because he really never was a bad soldier. Someone caught wind of it and I guess our company commander is going to handle it. What punishment is he likely to receive?

2021-09-26T12:44:09-04:00 2021-09-26T12:44:09-04:00 MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P 7298755

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Best guess... Article 15 for knowingly/willingly forging official document as well as false official statement (re: the aforementioned altered document). Additionally, likely to be flagged (for reenlistment bar) and a GOMAR established.

2021-09-26T12:57:23-04:00 2021-09-26T12:57:23-04:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 7298780

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I was a SPC stationed in Italy a SGT in my company altered his own PU score on a record APFT. He changed a 3 to an 8 in order to get a passing score. His event grader, an SFC, ended up being the person inputting scores back at the company. The 1SG and CO notified. He was eventually reduced in rank to SPC in front of the whole company while he cried.

2021-09-26T13:09:54-04:00 2021-09-26T13:09:54-04:00 SPC Rick HUnt 7298838

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depends how you altered it really. An the hostile bullshit you caused for you coc I suppose.

2021-09-26T13:34:18-04:00 2021-09-26T13:34:18-04:00 CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member 7298899

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>He&#39;s a poser, I guess.

2021-09-26T14:13:04-04:00 2021-09-26T14:13:04-04:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 7299145

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In my Battalion, a SFC altered a profile in order to make himself eligible for promotion (he was unable to complete the APFT and forged a profile allowing him to complete alternate tests). Once it was discovered, he received a Battalion level Article 15. He didn&#39;t lose his rank, but his career was over. He was out of the military less than 6 months later without being able to reach retirement.<br /><br />It was a shame since this was a high speed individual who excelled in his military knowledge and had been diligent in his duties. I think his problem was that he couldn&#39;t stand the fact that people were being promoted past him.

2021-09-26T16:05:29-04:00 2021-09-26T16:05:29-04:00 MAJ Byron Oyler 7299581

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depends what changing it effected the big picture. Could be as little as a negative counseling statement or an ART 15. It is an integrity issue and maybe finding a set of stairs that need cleaning and repainting with the Army values would be a good punishment. Something a good leader does is evaluate what works for rehab. Spanking stopped working with my son, then taking his video games away stopped but typing from the dictionary is so painful. The book does not need to be thrown at this soldier but something creative to remind this was a bad idea will work.

2021-09-26T19:59:08-04:00 2021-09-26T19:59:08-04:00 SSG Gary R Peek 7299892

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2021-09-26T22:13:36-04:00 2021-09-26T22:13:36-04:00 SSG Brian G. 7300005

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>IT depends on how lenient or strict the commander is. If they are lenient it could be as light as a GOMAR. It gets progressively worse from there. He lied, he forged a document that is official and technically he is malingering. His commander will likely not push for a Court Martial but certain could Article 15 him and in this instance it not be a summarized but a Field grade so he loses rank, pay, confinement and extra duty. And most likely he gets flagged for re-enlistment.

2021-09-26T23:39:46-04:00 2021-09-26T23:39:46-04:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 7300009

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Probably an article 15; so rank, pay, and time.

2021-09-26T23:44:34-04:00 2021-09-26T23:44:34-04:00 CSM Darieus ZaGara 7300218

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There are many possible charges here, that is the least of his worries, integrity, trust, honesty have gone out the window. I would guess a Company grade AR15 at the least. First offense or not this is a serious issue. This could go higher depending upon who issued the profile.

2021-09-27T04:40:02-04:00 2021-09-27T04:40:02-04:00 SSG Bill McCoy 7300660

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What&#39;s the saying? Stupid games get stupid prizes ... and modifying ANY document can land a person in hot water. Results can range from NJP (Company or FG), to a Court Martial depending on the document modified and resultant charges. If his CO is feeling kind, he could expect at the VERY least, a Counselling Statment or more likely, an Art 15.

2021-09-27T15:06:12-04:00 2021-09-27T15:06:12-04:00 Cpl Vic Burk 7300837

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>@SPC james Davison He will be lucky if it is referred to a courts martial. That would be under fraud to alter a service record. I would suspect at very minimum he would lose a rank and get a whopper fine. When I was in the Corps a 1stSgt was brought up on charges for doing that. He got busted to a Gunnery Sergeant for it. He retired shortly there after.

2021-09-27T19:10:38-04:00 2021-09-27T19:10:38-04:00 SSG Roger Ayscue 7301074

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Changing an official document, can get you a Court Martial and a Big Chicken Dinner (A BCD). I remember once that a SGT/E-5 in my and CSM James Post&#39;s company forged my and his signatures on a Record APFT Card for submission with his OCS Packet. The forgery was not to raise the score, because he actually had scored a 300, but he had neglected to get the PT Card for the packet and the submission date was the next day, so rather than calling one of us to go in to the company to get it for him, he opted to Doctor one up. He was caught by the OCS Selection Board and a Court Martial was the result. I have to give it up for Peanut though, and his total dedication to the special kind of stupid, even up to denying he had done anything &quot;That Serious&quot; to the Court Martial Board.<br />The crime is Falsification of a Government Document. It is just wrong on every level <br />@SGMJames Post

2021-09-28T00:56:06-04:00 2021-09-28T00:56:06-04:00 LTC Russ Smith 7301296

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Did he alter it so he could return to duty or alter it to get out of duty?

2021-09-28T07:34:36-04:00 2021-09-28T07:34:36-04:00 SGT Lorenzo Nieto 7305730

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I was serving back in 1967 you did that it’s jail time.

2021-10-02T07:06:42-04:00 2021-10-02T07:06:42-04:00 Sgt Dale Briggs 7308089

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ohh, cheating on a profile, altering records. Bye I’d suppose, a chargeable offense?

2021-10-04T19:23:23-04:00 2021-10-04T19:23:23-04:00 Sgt Dale Briggs 7308091

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Altering records are serious charges, I’d guess bye and perhaps charged with falsifying records.

2021-10-04T19:24:31-04:00 2021-10-04T19:24:31-04:00 Cpl Christopher Bishop 7308316

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What should they get, and what will they get are very different things.<br /><br />No integrity should mean no rank. Welcome to E1.<br /><br />What will they get? A slap on the wrist.

2021-10-05T02:17:04-04:00 2021-10-05T02:17:04-04:00 COL Victor Hagan 7362517

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depends on the individual soldier and their past performance. It will probably result in a company grade Article 15 with a reduction in rank and extra duty.

2021-11-10T13:21:05-05:00 2021-11-10T13:21:05-05:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 7362643

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;s been a month since you posted this question. I&#39;m curious about the update. What eventually happened to this Soldier?

2021-11-10T14:31:08-05:00 2021-11-10T14:31:08-05:00 SGT James Sedlacek 7365901

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Since medical profiles are documents written from the medical officer to the CO of the Soldier, this soldier essentially lied to his/her CO. Company Grade Article 15 is normal, loss of one pay grade, 7 days loss of pay, 14 days of extra duty.

2021-11-12T11:32:17-05:00 2021-11-12T11:32:17-05:00 SSG Rick Robbins 7368311

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Reduction in rank and remedial PT for a given time then discharge if not able to meet standards. Here is where I probably catch grief. I am retired from a Army Reserve Unit and I retired as a Major from our Local EMS after 25 years. I point this out to empathize I have been in charge of troops in different capacities for a long time.<br />That being said, I think it is entirely inappropriate to discipline him in front of the unit. I was taught in the military in NCO Academy, Praise in public, punish in private. It does not serve any purpose to be assholes by tearing a troop down in front of their peers. This is the kind of action that causes people to take their lives, or somebody else’s life. In the civilian side of the house that’s is call bullying. I am not indicating that he should be treated like a child, but treating him like a piece of shit is not necessary either.

2021-11-14T02:32:34-05:00 2021-11-14T02:32:34-05:00 SSG Rick Miller 7373230

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It could be anything from a counselling statement to a court martial. It depends on how severe the alteration was, and how strict the CoC is. In most of the units I was in, it would be a field grade Article 15, loss of rank, loss of pay, bar to reenlistment at a minimum. Might even initiate chapter proceedings, since he/she just proved they are of questionable integrity. In short, that ass would be toast.

2021-11-17T08:06:12-05:00 2021-11-17T08:06:12-05:00 SSG Eric Blue 7374156

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depends on how much the chain of command and NCO support channel love or hate that soldier. I&#39;ve seen soldiers get presidential treatment from command teams in spite of doing the completely wrong thing while I&#39;ve seen others get confined for showing up intoxicated to first formation.

2021-11-17T17:38:07-05:00 2021-11-17T17:38:07-05:00 Sgt Daniel Garner 7415890

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>He would be added to the Biden cabinet, I’m sure.

2021-12-11T10:41:43-05:00 2021-12-11T10:41:43-05:00 SGT Shane Serna 7417615

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Funny it’s alright for anyone to do it in office working with 1SG and Captain or S shops. See it every PT test for points or weight. But a soldier in normal ranks will probably get counseling or if upper ranks want to make an example or don’t like the Soldier give an Article 15.

2021-12-12T10:47:16-05:00 2021-12-12T10:47:16-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 7419181

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Gee, seeing that an official document was altered, UCMJ Article 123 and federal actions<br />18 U.S. Code § 1028 - Fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents, authentication features, and information.<br /><br />I do not believe a SPC and below will get that harsh of a sentence, but the severity needs to be enforced. <br />I would seek Article 15 reduction.

2021-12-13T09:47:12-05:00 2021-12-13T09:47:12-05:00 SPC Chris Ison 7419314

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would need to know more about what alterations he made. I would need to know more about the injury and his original limitations. And O would need to know his MOS.<br /><br />If this is going to be confined to the company level, he is not going to get what he deserves, this is a serious infraction involved fraud, waste, and abuse.<br /><br />The charges should be:<br /><br />Article 92—Failure to obey order or regulation. The profile itself is a written order by the BN PA.<br />Article 115—Malingering. This covers the fact that he tried to avoid duty.<br /><br />77. Article 134—(False or unauthorized pass offenses) This covers the specific alteration of the order.<br /><br />I would court martial the soldier, and have him discharged. He doesn&#39;t want to, or can not, fulfill his duty. And this would send a message to the command about malingering.

2021-12-13T11:17:35-05:00 2021-12-13T11:17:35-05:00 SrA Mike Bahl 7420058

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Art 15 for falsifying an official govt document. Anything less and I would honestly be surprised.

2021-12-13T19:28:34-05:00 2021-12-13T19:28:34-05:00 SFC Antonio Baird 7424936

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The question should be what is the appropriate punishment for their alteration of official records. An excellent tool that is grossly overlooked is a Bar To Reenlist. It spells out why the Soldier was barred from reenacting, how long it will be in effect, and the type of discharge they would receive if they don&#39;t shape up. In addition, an Article 15 with suspended reduction in rank, and a forfeiture of some kind may be appropriate. Finally, the first O6 in their chain for command can withdraw their &quot;regular pass privileges.&quot; In plain English, this would restrict them to the base, the PX, and place of worship. Hope this helps.

2021-12-16T11:03:15-05:00 2021-12-16T11:03:15-05:00 SPC Steven Nihipali 7425690

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>in basic, I went 1 day over on my profile... the next day my PltnSg had a word with me noticed I still wasn&#39;t walking right and allowed the day. 3 days later I was sent back to sick call cause I couldn&#39;t walk at all. to this day, we&#39;re not sure what it was. I&#39;m out now still unsure after the VA ran test after test. just weak joints or something

2021-12-16T18:59:47-05:00 2021-12-16T18:59:47-05:00 1SG Chris Patterson 7439273

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have seen a SSG do that for the E7 board, he forged my signature as the NCOIC. My 1SG and I got a call from the board because he didn&#39;t look like he could score what he gave himself according to his DA photo. He got an Art 15, demoted to SGT and RCP&#39;d.

2021-12-24T15:52:00-05:00 2021-12-24T15:52:00-05:00 CPT Derek Wren 7495451

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Whatever punishment he is likely to receive will most likely be between himself the 1SG &amp; CO. This is a great site for assistance and insight on certain aspects of the military, however not necessarily one to inquire about punishment for fellow soldiers.<br />That being said, every company commander is different in the way in which they discipline soldiers. You will never and your entire military career find a leader that did not one point in time in their career or life make a mistake so they understand that stuff happens. All I can say is that he is a good soldier I never had issues that they should be in better shape than a soldier that has had issues before. That’s as in-depth as I would or could go.

2022-01-25T11:42:09-05:00 2022-01-25T11:42:09-05:00 PFC Chester Southworth 7503737

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Our CSM in front of the unit did halfway push-ups during his PT test and everyone didn&#39;t question it. Yet, we all laughed at each other when we did the PT test saying hey, don&#39;t do Sgt major Pushups! Go all the way down and then lock out your elbows all the way up, your not a CSM over this unit! He(CSM) got highest PT score that day. Situps too we&#39;re questionable, elbows up counted as a sit-up only for our CSM. Probably got an award for it too and a bonus.

2022-01-30T03:28:07-05:00 2022-01-30T03:28:07-05:00 SN Dale "CG" Veach 7504453

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>UCMJ...Article 15. He &quot;never was a bad soldier&quot;? He lied and falsified documentation. That&#39;s a &quot;bad&quot; soldier!

2022-01-30T15:41:39-05:00 2022-01-30T15:41:39-05:00 SP5 Donna Barr 7505576

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Man, we had tougher sarges - they blatantly stole cases of steaks out of the back of the mess hall for the NCO club and didn’t care who saw them.

2022-01-31T11:24:05-05:00 2022-01-31T11:24:05-05:00 SSG James Knopp 7509308

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>An alternative to soldiers trying to change up to make career consequences on their own would admit their shortcomings, but work something out with the higher ups. Just because you can’t achieve or surpass the Army’s standards all the time doesn’t mean you are a bad soldier. The punishment sometimes doesn’t fit the crime. <br />My last decade in the military was served along side Army pilots. On more than one occasion I saw AFTP scoresheet “pencilwhipped” so they didn’t get grounded. Does that make him less of a pilot? I think not. <br />While I was on an out of state assignment I stopped by to see my aging and ailing father and stayed longer than I should. When I got back to my unit my 1SG and Co worked with me and gave me two weeks of extra duty instead of me having a black mark in my records because they saw in me a good soldier.<br />If your a good soldier then try to work it out. Maybe the soldier in question could of been moved to a different area of expertise. All humans, in my mind, are capable of being kind and somehow good at something. As we may think, soldiers aren’t “supermen”. Although, some are better trained.<br />That being said, some where some time we have all made mistakes in our lives. Most of us are better for it.

2022-02-02T13:16:09-05:00 2022-02-02T13:16:09-05:00 SSG Eric Blue 7510883

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Article 15 for falsifying an official document, bar to reenlistment, and a memo of reprimand..more than likely. In today&#39;s command climate, it depends on what the soldier is doing for the chain of command and NCO support channel. I&#39;ve seen felonies get swept under the rug during my Army career.

2022-02-03T11:27:31-05:00 2022-02-03T11:27:31-05:00 SSG James Stodola 7516817

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well, by the phrase &quot;Whole military career&quot; I am guessing he has been in for a while and is thinking of a full retirement. You have to look at that entire career up to this point and see what other things he has done against regulations, if any. Nobody is truly squeeky clean when you stay for a long time, so his history plays a big part in the punishment as well as the actual &quot;crime&quot; per se&#39;. I would like to know what his motivation for this was. Is he in a unit that is active in an operational status and is this keeping him from participating fully? Is he just simply frustrated with his injury / condition, did he hurt it while in military service ore is this an old pre-service injury coming back, something that would not have kept him out in the first place? The commander would, or should have a talk with the PA or Doc who initially set the profile and determine how it has progressed up to this point, and how it is affecting his duties for starters. Next have a talk with the soldier and determine why this was done and for what reason. Once as much information is gathered, like in an investigation, then the picture becomes more clear and easier to deal with as fairly as can be. I can easily see an Article 15 in this picture, but when weighing out all the information, that could be a light punishment if tailored correctly. How does the commander view things like this, how does he view this soldier and their performance to date. All questions that must be factored in, in order to have a &quot;punishment that fits the crime&quot; so to speak. I see one problem and that would be what is current rank is, as if this is an NCO then it would be looked on in a different way and based on that and that alone, it could draw a much harsher punishment. So, depending on how good of a soldier he is and has been will have have some bearing on the punishment, if the commander has a fair minded approach, it could be letter of reprimand and extra duties, pay taken, and maybe a suspended reduction in rank. Of course should this get out of hand, or is pushed to a courts martial, then it could get ugly. The maximum under article 107 could be; If you are found guilty under Article 107 of the UCMJ, your sentence will not exceed:<br />Reduction to E-1<br />Forfeiture of all pay and allowances<br />Five years of confinement<br />A dishonorable discharge<br /><br />So just on what I know, it could go several ways, but I am thinking at minimum an Art. 15.

2022-02-07T11:12:45-05:00 2022-02-07T11:12:45-05:00 A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney 7657089

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>HOPEFULLY, None.<br />The gods Know, If I Was Scrutinized Very Closely, I&#39;d Be Standing In Front Of A<br />FIRING SQUAD..<br />If Those Of You Whom Know Me Could Have Read My Resumes,<br />You&#39;d Realize I Could Have Been A Successful Writer For Disney&#39;s Fictional Programs.<br />Fortunately, I Know How To Write A Resume <br />That Can&#39;t Be Traced To The Fictional Statements I Made.<br />And I DID Write a LOT Of Fictional Information..<br />SUCKERS

2022-05-03T15:06:54-04:00 2022-05-03T15:06:54-04:00 SGT Charles Graham 7663165

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>PROBABLY GO TO THE BATTALION COMMANDER FOR A BATTALION ARTICLE 15. OUTSIDE CHANCE OF A SUMMARY COURT MARTIAL.

2022-05-06T19:01:36-04:00 2022-05-06T19:01:36-04:00 SFC Rollie Hubbard 7664694

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maybe article 15

2022-05-07T19:40:26-04:00 2022-05-07T19:40:26-04:00 LCpl Richard Lally 7665729

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depends on what he added or deleted. There should be allowances for certain changes as long as they were not fictitious . Also depends on the C.C. and his outlook on the situation. most art 15 hearings are just placed in your SRB. The only way rank reduction was made known was when they saw the person removing his chevrons

2022-05-08T14:08:55-04:00 2022-05-08T14:08:55-04:00 SPC Jason Halper 7666011

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I agree with all the comments below. The integrity issue always comes up as the ultimate sin, especially in the military. If the change was made for a malicious or selfish reason, it’s likely the person will be in significant amounts of trouble. When changes are made to an official record, that official record can determine current and future promotional opportunities, benefits, really serving as the foundation for anything the soldier earns or needs in the future. If it was done to avoid some sort of punishment or alternative assignment, it is still a selfish reason however there may be leeway based on the soldiers personal intent . If it was done on a unintentional platform, I don’t see anything very harsh happening however violating integrity is always the key issue here. I saw this happen in one of my units where a soldier was changing purchase orders to sell materials ordered by the unit on the Korean black market. He was subsequently caught and subject to all sorts of fun remedies. The biggest issue here is the soldier needs to understand that integrity is the foundation of the military.

2022-05-08T18:47:58-04:00 2022-05-08T18:47:58-04:00 SSgt Steven Stone 7673548

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Article 15, falsification of an official government document- reduction in rank and suspension of pay and allowances for a period of time with some EPD in there somewhere I’m sure would be my opinion. This of course is based upon the my time in the USMC which had been many moons ago. May have changed how they do things nowadays

2022-05-12T17:32:32-04:00 2022-05-12T17:32:32-04:00 SFC Bill Sutherland 7674892

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Time keepers are the key, we would never allow the Orginial to go with the soldier and all records are rechecked and for that reason, are held at Company/brigade/division level. But as far as punishment that’s up to each individual NCO/Ic or Company Commander.

2022-05-13T11:22:27-04:00 2022-05-13T11:22:27-04:00 SFC Robert Sloan 7794572

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am guessing that the profile was a hand written one from a company/battalion medic. Their actions show a lack of integrity. Most likely will get an article 15 for falsifying official documents.

2022-07-27T17:32:14-04:00 2022-07-27T17:32:14-04:00 SPC Vonnie Jones 7799075

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sad to say the least ART 15, the rest depends on the Commander.

2022-07-30T01:50:37-04:00 2022-07-30T01:50:37-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 7803127

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depends on the commander. I was in a class once where a female cadet, Ms. Pamela J. Hall lied on more than one DA 2823 to try and save her own behind from being recycled. She put the blame on &quot;dealing with this classmate&quot; that she said &quot;visited her house&quot; and &quot;gave her a package&quot; while she was away during Christmas Exodus. Turn out she lived somewhere in the state of Kansas he lived in Michigan, and the class was in Georgia. She admitted to lying in court much later while being sued for defamation after the commander, Mr. Carl Bergaman refused to have any investigation done (willful ignorance I think they call it) and made an attempt at separating the then 2nd Lt as an enlisted soldier under a chapter 12 without any due process. The girl? She did not get recycled. She moved on to her OBC and until the young gentleman sued her in court for losing his career, she probably did not think another thing about it.<br />So it really depends on the commander and what they want to do. Me, I would have court martialed the commander for that kind of negligence or at least for bad judgement.

2022-08-01T17:50:10-04:00 2022-08-01T17:50:10-04:00 LTC Stephen F. 7814372

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The punishment depends on the seriousness of the altering the profile <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1516726" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1516726-25b-information-technology-specialist">SGT Private RallyPoint Member</a>. If the profile was altered to be awarded an unauthorized purple heart, I would expect a General Court Martial would be judging this soldier.<br />If it was a modified extension of time on the profile, I expect a Company Commander Article 15.<br />If it modified a temporary profile to a permanent profile, I expect a Battalion Commander Article 15 or up to a General Officer Article 15.<br />FYI<a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1666168" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1666168-cpl-vic-burk">Cpl Vic Burk</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="848656" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/848656-8001-basic-warrant-officer-mos">CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="198196" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/198196-68s-preventive-medicine-specialist">MSG Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="305380" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/305380-csm-charles-hayden">CSM Charles Hayden</a><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1637496" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1637496-maj-roland-mcdonald">MAJ Roland McDonald</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1715811" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1715811-1sg-joseph-dartey">1SG Joseph Dartey</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="986911" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/986911-sgm-major-stroupe">SGM Major Stroupe</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="868573" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/868573-sgm-bill-frazer">SGM Bill Frazer</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="334546" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/334546-sfc-william-farrell">SFC William Farrell</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="778096" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/778096-sgt-joseph-dutton">SGT Joseph Dutton</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="334546" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/334546-sfc-william-farrell">SFC William Farrell</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1927043" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1927043-amn-dale-preisach">Amn Dale Preisach</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1921460" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1921460-63b-light-wheel-vehicle-mechanic">SSgt David M.</a><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1653347" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1653347-po1-howard-barnes">PO1 Howard Barnes</a><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1654861" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1654861-po3-edward-riddle">PO3 Edward Riddle</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1714768" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1714768-98g-voice-interceptor">SGT Tiffanie G.</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="343396" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/343396-88z-transportation-senior-sergeant">MSG Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="72972" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/72972-76f-quartermaster-parts-supply-specialist">SGT Mary G.</a>

2022-08-09T00:18:53-04:00 2022-08-09T00:18:53-04:00 SGT Joseph Dutton 7852413

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just like any official document. If an individual alters or amends a document without approval or authority is guilty of forgery. Only person that can alter such document is the issuer. The level of punishment all depends on the severity of the altered document. It may be a NJP or a CM procedure. <br />I give you an example when I was in the Navy, we have LOG BOOKS for Watch Standards have to fill in when visiting a certain area. But some has been caught filling out the whole watch on the 1st visit which we called it &quot;Gun Decking&quot;. They got NJP with restriction/extra duty, loss of pay and or rank reduction along with restriction/extra duty, loss of pay. None went to the CM level.

2022-08-30T22:42:34-04:00 2022-08-30T22:42:34-04:00 SGT Erick Holmes 7859244

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In my opinion, if this is out of character for this Soldier you need to have a sit down with this Soldier. Find out what is really going on. Once you have establish that then address the altering a document. I can not tell you what a punishment should be HOWEVER, you should know this Soldier and you need to prove a point but you also need to fit the punishment with the crime.

2022-09-03T15:25:39-04:00 2022-09-03T15:25:39-04:00 MSG Danny Mathers 7861959

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>ART 15

2022-09-05T12:33:59-04:00 2022-09-05T12:33:59-04:00 SFC Joseph Sheffield 7875899

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In Germany in the 80s, a Soldier friend of mine mailed letters back to his family from Germany. In almost every case in the world, this is perfectly ok. But he stole the commander&#39;s envelopes that had &quot;For Official use Only&quot; on them from the Orderly Room and he got to mail them for free, saving a quarter or something on each letter. They caught him and he went to prison. So, play stupid games--win stupid prizes.

2022-09-13T16:45:56-04:00 2022-09-13T16:45:56-04:00 CSM David Heidke 7990762

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I had a really good Soldier do this. Or maybe he wasn’t when he did I but he ended up being a huge asset to the team later in the short career that he destroyed. He wasn’t bitter when his time ran out, he knew what he did and what was coming. It was a loss for the team though.

2022-11-20T11:06:19-05:00 2022-11-20T11:06:19-05:00 CW2 Donald Loughrey 8001481

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I remember a time before the digital world when a Soldier carried his/her 201 file on their person when PCSing to a new duty station. Many Company Grade Article 15s never got to the new unit. A different time I guess and its good to have better record keeping now. I would think a Company Grade Article 15 would be appropriate consequence for this action.

2022-11-28T09:37:02-05:00 2022-11-28T09:37:02-05:00 Lt Col Brad Hornsby 8001917

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Too many variables to answer. Could be a courts-martial, maybe an Article 15. Discharge is possible too. Depends on history of the member (great troop, etc.). Also depends on branch of service and commander involved. This from a retired AF JAG with over 100 courts-martial and thousands of discharges and Article 15s.

2022-11-28T16:39:26-05:00 2022-11-28T16:39:26-05:00 2021-09-26T12:44:09-04:00