Cadet CPL Lamin Conteh 5303069 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> 2019-12-03T17:54:38-05:00 Cadet CPL Lamin Conteh 5303069

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2019-12-03T17:54:38-05:00 2019-12-03T17:54:38-05:00 MAJ Javier Rivera 5303096

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Experience... Just like most new Soldiers/Service members!

2019-12-03T18:03:01-05:00 2019-12-03T18:03:01-05:00 SSG Carlos Madden 5303120

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Experience, wisdom, and maturity. But that&#39;s kind of expected.

2019-12-03T18:11:52-05:00 2019-12-03T18:11:52-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 5303133

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There are a handful of commissioned officers who never should have made it through the process. They’re easy to spot. Otherwise, all joking aside, most of what young LT’s lack can and is fixed by time and mentorship. The only thing I can’t fix is a bad attitude.

2019-12-03T18:15:31-05:00 2019-12-03T18:15:31-05:00 Maj Kim Patterson 5303149

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1655755" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1655755-pre-commission">Cadet CPL Lamin Conteh</a> Experience. And willingness to listen to their NCOs who have been at it for awhile. I am most grateful for the NCOs that pulled me aside early on and said something akin to you can either do it the way ( your commissioning source) told you or we can teach you. I went with option B.

2019-12-03T18:21:32-05:00 2019-12-03T18:21:32-05:00 MAJ Ken Landgren 5303179

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am not saying they totally lack these skills. I am saying these areas are what they need to work on:<br /><br />- Leadership<br />- Tactical and technical skills<br />- Knowing organizations that he must coordinate with and why<br />- Using NCOs for institutional knowledge<br />- Stay out of NCO business<br />- Have compassion<br />- Fight for the troops

2019-12-03T18:28:14-05:00 2019-12-03T18:28:14-05:00 CAPT Kevin B. 5303193

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Everyone is hitting on the good points. It&#39;s the next step that&#39;s crucial. That is the experience actually changes you for the good. The overall average capability to do that has been arguably declining over the years. You see the difference every day. What used to be &quot;Wow, I will improve so my butt doesn&#39;t get chewed like that again&quot; to a whiny &quot;I got picked on for no reason&quot;. So you tell me which one is more likely to improve. Look around at the junior officer community. You can easily spot who&#39;s walking in open air and who has the perpetual cloud hanging over them. Good officer leadership won&#39;t let the cloud pullers hang around for long.

2019-12-03T18:31:29-05:00 2019-12-03T18:31:29-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 5303235

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Feedback from PVTs....

2019-12-03T18:38:23-05:00 2019-12-03T18:38:23-05:00 CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member 5303243

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>rank

2019-12-03T18:40:20-05:00 2019-12-03T18:40:20-05:00 SPC Stewart Smith 5303252

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While I was in Germany(my first duty station) the butter bars lacked experience. They all looked toward the senior leadership for advice, knowledge, and assistance. They were great. <br />While I was in El Paso(my second duty station) the butter bars lacked experience and respect for the senior leadership. They would constantly bicker with the NCOs and it was quite embarrassing to see the NCOs bickering back. <br />If you go commissioned, make sure you listen to the senior leadership. Just because you technically outrank an NCO does not mean you do not have something to learn from them.

2019-12-03T18:43:15-05:00 2019-12-03T18:43:15-05:00 MAJ Ken Landgren 5303272

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>- They also lack situational awareness sometimes<br />- Moral courage

2019-12-03T18:46:43-05:00 2019-12-03T18:46:43-05:00 SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member 5303422

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Life experience.

2019-12-03T19:30:27-05:00 2019-12-03T19:30:27-05:00 SFC Casey O'Mally 5303502

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wisdom. But that (hopefully) comes with experience. The biggest wisdom gap I see is understanding when to be patient, and when to be urgent.

2019-12-03T19:57:13-05:00 2019-12-03T19:57:13-05:00 Lt Col Jim Coe 5303573

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I certainly lacked perspective. With little experience and cursory training I was self centered. Pilot training provided a 1-year buffer between university and the real Air Force. Even then the real Air Force was very different than I expected. My first lesson: if you want something you have to ask for it.

2019-12-03T20:23:21-05:00 2019-12-03T20:23:21-05:00 SFC Ralph E Kelley 5303669

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Experience like all new soldiers.

2019-12-03T20:59:46-05:00 2019-12-03T20:59:46-05:00 SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member 5303795

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think they lack experience and the understanding of enlisted life. Now obviously these dont apply to all 2LTs as I&#39;ve had phenomenal LTs both in the Army and Marine Corps. <br />The experience is gained over time, but the understanding can only be gained by talking to your soldiers, and ditching the sense of entitlement and supreme know all mentality that I&#39;ve seen from new 2LTs far too often. <br />If I could give one piece of advice to newly commissioned 2LTs it would be, respect is reciprocal. Your enlisted counterparts will respect your rank, but they will not respect your leadership until you respect them and their experience.

2019-12-03T22:10:45-05:00 2019-12-03T22:10:45-05:00 CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member 5303889

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Humility and social skills.

2019-12-03T23:00:34-05:00 2019-12-03T23:00:34-05:00 Lt Col Charlie Brown 5304884

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Experience. If you listen to your NCOs you survive and thrive until you get it.

2019-12-04T07:23:43-05:00 2019-12-04T07:23:43-05:00 LCDR Joshua Gillespie 5305168

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Too easy-experience. Everyone likes to pick on the Butter-Bar (and for good reason), but honestly, most will mature into competent officers given half a chance. The small percentage that are complete wastes of space generally don&#39;t make it very long. You simply cannot &quot;make&quot; tactical geniuses, or imbue the highest standards of personal leadership across four years at ROTC or the Academy, let alone shorter periods in OCS... but you can plant the seeds. Sadly, I believe enlisted, or commissioned, we often end up canning otherwise promising officers and enlisted members for relatively minor errors early in their careers.

2019-12-04T08:43:24-05:00 2019-12-04T08:43:24-05:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 5305196

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Most LTs in general, lack experienced are over compident.

2019-12-04T08:56:56-05:00 2019-12-04T08:56:56-05:00 CPL Earl Kochis 5305546

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The ability to realize that a book can’t teach real world experience!!! All the lieutenants I ever met had a hard time learning that what they were taught in a college environment had no real application to active duty life!!! The academic side helped in job position but some of the history of warfare sunk in to deep and they had a hard time adapting to new strategies and combat standards!! Sometimes their ego was their biggest problem!! Instead of realizing that they were equivalent to a buck private in the officer world and needed to learn from the experience of NCO’s and field grades to become leaders!! To become a good leader you first must learn to follow!!

2019-12-04T10:37:54-05:00 2019-12-04T10:37:54-05:00 PO3 John Keas 5307377

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As much as we deride Butter Bars...they are still trainable. Just need a good NCO (or Petty Officer as the case may be) to tell them how things REALLY work outside of school.

2019-12-04T18:13:08-05:00 2019-12-04T18:13:08-05:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 5307427

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nothing.<br /><br />We somehow forget that Lieutenant&#39;s need to be trained much like the new Privates, and need to be given room to screw up much like new Privates.

2019-12-04T18:25:04-05:00 2019-12-04T18:25:04-05:00 MAJ Byron Oyler 5307479

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Respect and expectations.

2019-12-04T18:36:48-05:00 2019-12-04T18:36:48-05:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 5308267

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Experience. That&#39;s it for the most part. The only real curable difference between a new LT and a seasoned officer is the experience they have procured.

2019-12-04T22:25:24-05:00 2019-12-04T22:25:24-05:00 SSG Dale London 5308364

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Thismay not be a popular response but it comes from my own experience both as an NCO and as an officer.<br />It is almost axiomatic that 2LT&#39;s lack experience but that can be fixed by a decent NCO. Something harder to fix is a lack of perspective. Many new officers get caught up chasing minutiae and miss the bigger picture. What is required here is massive quantities of patience and a willingness to let the LT fall on his face once or twice on small stuff -- big stuff has a wider impact and his soldiers don&#39;t deserve the fallout that comes from a raging eff-up.<br />As a soldier, and later as an NCO, you will need to establish a good sense of perspective for yourself and that will allow you to more effectively house-train your LT.

2019-12-04T23:01:07-05:00 2019-12-04T23:01:07-05:00 SPC Donn Sinclair 5309076

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nobody&#39;s all knowing right out of the box, whether in the military or civilian life. Experience, mentoring from senior officers, guidance and patience from NCO&#39;s. On the LT&#39;s part, don&#39;t be too proud to ask.

2019-12-05T06:49:01-05:00 2019-12-05T06:49:01-05:00 2LT Gerald Dominy 5371265

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Respect for subordinates abilities and leadership..and that other than for that bar on his shoulder..a lt could be handed his hiney back on a platter..the military is a artificial fabricated bubble. Dont let it go to you head. <br /><br />Most prior enlisted and especially combat veterans who make officer . Many would follow into hell armed with a water pistol..if your not one. Dont try to be..learn first.

2019-12-23T01:32:07-05:00 2019-12-23T01:32:07-05:00 2ndLt Paul Ryan 5427362

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>One word - Experience - and a desire to become better!

2020-01-09T00:38:34-05:00 2020-01-09T00:38:34-05:00 SP5 Craig Harridge 5454921

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In a word - HUMILITY. In my brief military experience, many 2LT&#39;s seemed to be quite impressed that EM&#39;s of vastly superior knowledge and experience have to salute them and address them as Sir, something that many have probably never experienced before. I experienced that with a 2LT (OCS &quot;90 day wonder&quot;) who was quite impressed with himself and loved to make others&#39; lives miserable. I also believe that in this generation of entitlement, the humility issue has become even more pronounced. Many young people feel that they already know it all, and should be accelerated to a higher position than they&#39;re actually far from qualified to fill.

2020-01-18T09:17:07-05:00 2020-01-18T09:17:07-05:00 PO2 Steven Michaeli 5463033

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Facial hair

2020-01-20T12:50:09-05:00 2020-01-20T12:50:09-05:00 TSgt Richard Adams 5478065

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just learn from your more experienced NCOs, SNCOs and senior Officers. Be a sponge and learn all you can.

2020-01-24T09:48:54-05:00 2020-01-24T09:48:54-05:00 SMSgt Cary Baker 5478964

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They lack experience - many are just out of college &amp; OTS and really have no experience in leadership, management and mentoring. Good NCOs &amp; SNCOs will mentor and support. A young LT may be a future commander is they want it.

2020-01-24T14:19:09-05:00 2020-01-24T14:19:09-05:00 CW3 Michael Clifford 5486945

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I once had a very famous 4-star general tell me that Second Lieutenants were nothing more than privates with college degrees.

2020-01-26T21:31:06-05:00 2020-01-26T21:31:06-05:00 2LT Alan Turley 5628369

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The surefooted composure of experience.

2020-03-04T17:07:49-05:00 2020-03-04T17:07:49-05:00 CW2 Carl Swanson 6522266

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maturity

2020-11-22T19:29:45-05:00 2020-11-22T19:29:45-05:00 CPT Larry Hudson 6823218

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Experience.

2021-03-14T16:25:13-04:00 2021-03-14T16:25:13-04:00 SFC Gary Fox 7396421

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ve had experience with many who lacked humility. I had a few second lieutenants just out of OBC come in to be the platoon leader who thought they knew more about how to get the mission done than the platoon sergeant and squad leaders. Heck, even specialists had more experience than they did.

2021-11-29T18:08:21-05:00 2021-11-29T18:08:21-05:00 SSG Ralph Watkins 7397141

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I got myself in trouble by getting into a fist fight with an LT. The funny thing came afterwards. I had so many senior NCOs &amp; field grade officers up to a an O-6 all shake my hand. I did what they themselves all wanted to do that to the LTs they dealt with.

2021-11-30T08:25:35-05:00 2021-11-30T08:25:35-05:00 2019-12-03T17:54:38-05:00