What is something that you wish that more people understood about the military?

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RP Members, Connections, and Friends here is one of those questions that are still prevalent today that got lost in the black hole here on RallyPoint. I revived it for more RP Members to comment on.

Based on your Service Branch and your experience in the military what are some of the things you wished people understood about you as a person and what you experienced while being in the military?

Mine would be the Camaraderie you build as a Team or individually with those you have served with! Also, those you've lost along the path once traveled!

Don't Hold Back-Tell your Story RP Nation!

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Mar 11 at 2016 2:57 PM

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Where is the passion for the troops and wars.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Mar 11 at 2016 3:00 PM

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I don't like it that people think because i'm not active duty that I'm no longer a Marine.

Response by SSG Ed Mikus made Mar 11 at 2016 3:00 PM

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we do not want to start another war

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Mar 11 at 2016 3:06 PM

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That each serviceman and woman is both human and unique and we are not robots who kill with no remorse COL Mikel J. Burroughs

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Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 11 at 2016 3:23 PM

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That the military is not anything like the stories or jokes that are told about it.

Sadly, much of the mythology is propagated by service members themselves, telling stories to mystify and aggrandize themselves. One of my favorite examples of this are the stories told by sailors in earlier times, of battling ferocious monsters and meeting mythical creatures. My teachers used this "history" to demonstrate what ignorant and superstitious people they were whereas common sense told me they were only spinning yarns to impress the ladies and get laid.

Response by SGT Patrick Reno made Mar 11 at 2016 3:25 PM

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People Just don't understand the bond. We know it, we feel it, we understand. I have tried to explain it countless times but it just doesn't click for them. I have friends that I have worked with for the last 24 years and they will never be as close as People that I served with. 99% of the population will never understand why we would run out in the middle of a shit storm to save some one we don't even know.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 11 at 2016 3:27 PM

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That we don't necessarily long for war.

Response by SFC J Fullerton made Mar 11 at 2016 3:28 PM

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That it more like regular job than being in prison. Some people think your whole identity is stripped and you live a structured and controlled life with 0 freedom like an inmate in the state pen.

Response by SPC David S. made Mar 11 at 2016 3:32 PM

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I think one of the biggest and hardest things for most civilians to understand is why we serve. I think many often construe our service with the destructive nature associated with war. We're neanderthals blood lusting for war. The truth is that under our austere appearance we are just like the rest of society - we love, feel pain, have dreams and really desire peace probably more than most.

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made Mar 11 at 2016 3:57 PM

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That we operate as a team, not lone Hollywood style heroes.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Mar 11 at 2016 5:45 PM

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That we a tight knit bunch that looks out for each other.

Response by SPC(P) Alexandra Hinds made Mar 11 at 2016 9:20 PM

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As I have noticed throughout my Military career (as short lived as it may be compared to some of you ergo, thank you for your Service), the most prominent response I get when being complimented and/or being locked in a heated discussion is how these people seem to believe that we enlisted to fight (and enjoy) the conflict/violence on the battlefield, the paychecks and the travel. Yes, I do believe that there are some members out there who somehow get the utmost joy out of the killings and what I mentioned above. However, I cannot and will not believe that they are averaged in with the vast majority of the Military population.
Most do not enlist for the deployments or the paychecks. For the personnel who truly believe that we are using our title as United States service-members for our own personal gain, shame on you.
For those doing such a thing, shame on us.

Response by SSG Leonard J W. made Mar 11 at 2016 10:17 PM

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COL Mikel J. Burroughs, I'm looking forward to reading insight about others. I think one of the defining facts about me is that I was an introvert before enlisting...some of my experiences have definitely increased the tendency to avoid people sometimes.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2016 10:23 PM

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That what they see on the news and read about in the newspaper isn't everything.

But unfortunately as immersed as society is in social media and news constantly at your fingertips it would be irrelevant and useless to try and explain any different to them.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2016 2:06 AM

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One of the things that I wish people could understand that most of us don't do it for recognition or praise. We do it out of a sense of duty and honor.

Response by SSG Ryan Moore made Mar 12 at 2016 9:08 AM

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That all of us having feelings and that we are not puppets being stringed by the government and most of us if not all have scars some visible and some not

Response by SSgt Robert Marx made Mar 12 at 2016 12:10 PM

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Freedom must be fought for at times; we all as citizens contribute something collectively; strive to always be a part of the solution rather than the problem.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Mar 12 at 2016 12:18 PM

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The nation sends us to war. It is not the military.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2016 12:24 PM

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I have always been a serious individual. The military made me more so. Myself and other veterans have a zero or very low tolerance for petty B.S.

Response by SFC Wade W. made Mar 12 at 2016 2:24 PM

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I would really appreciate it if people understood that your MOS is not all you did. With all of the positions available at company, battalion and brigade level, military police is not all I did. All of the leadership and supervisory positions and all of the additional duties that are tasked. When you speak about all of the different positions you held and all of the skills accumulated over a 25-year career and people are like "but I thought you were an MP".

Response by PO1 John Meyer, CPC made Mar 12 at 2016 7:40 PM

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In no particular order...

1. That we're not war mongering, berserker, Klingons who live and feed off of combat.

2. That we didn't enlist because we were at the end of our rope and had no other options in life.

3. That we're not robotic automatons that lack emotion and/or the ability to think for ourselves.

4. That we lack the ability to have a meaningful, faithful relationship with another person (aka a girl in every port). Yes.... I've been asked that when found out to be a sailor.

These are just a sample of the things that get under my skin when asked.

Response by A1C Melissa Jackson made Mar 13 at 2016 1:15 PM

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I strongly dislike the response about how:
"I could never have joined the military- I am too independent and I would have spit in the face of a sergeant yelling in my face"

All I can think of these types is that they are extremely immature, frightened people full of false bravado. Frankly, I would not have WANTED to have served with such people. They are the kinds who would have haunted the smoke pit and were never to be found when the REAL rubber hit the road.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2016 3:18 PM

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In the mid 80's, I had just returned from Marine Corps boot camp and was given 30 days to work with my local recruiters. While at my high school, we were there interacting with former classmates and familiar faces. Many of them walked by us and shouted "Baby Killers!" Fast forward to 2007. I had just returned from a year in Iraq and visited my husband's school. The kids were all 5th and 6th graders in his band classes. For the last 15 minutes of each class, after introductions and explaining that I'd just returned, he allowed them a question and answer session with me. The first question I got from each class was "Did you kill anyone?" My answer was "No, thank God". The misconception that because you serve, you must be a killer, is trying at times. I explained that my job over there was flying, but we sure got mortared quite a bit. The phrase "No one wants to fight, but someone has to know how" sticks in my head. We're not killers by nature but are trained to do so if necessary, is what I wish those who haven't served understood. Just my two bits.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2016 4:09 PM

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To Millenials who think serving is all about Killing. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It's about being part of something bigger than yourself. It's about serving something bigger than yourself. It's about protecting those, who cannot protect themselves.

Response by MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht made Mar 13 at 2016 4:40 PM

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I wish they knew first hand about what is going on. Not Hollywood movies. Only way to hear it is from those who were there and the most of us do not like to talk about it. For me, it was fun. I got to sleep in until 0530. By then I was a half mile into the woods checking my trap line. After I made my bed, it was off to the mess hall. I had to clean the barn first. Basic was a piece of cake because I grew up with "Yes Sir & No Sir". After a few bumps I was able to FLY. Flew all over the world. Nobody really understands who we are, what we done or what we stand for. I tell them--if not for us you would be speaking German or Japanese--if you survived. Yet, some of these people protest because they don't like somebody or any other nit picking reason. GOD bless America and all who served and will serve.

Response by Capt Brandon Charters made Mar 13 at 2016 4:57 PM

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Great question COL Mikel J. Burroughs. I think it's very difficult to convey the everyday grind and discipline it takes to be in the military. From the sailor who is on a nuke sub working around the clock for 6+ months, to the E-5 who does preflight checks on a $400M+ aircraft and certifies it "ready to fly". The level of pressure, technical aptitude, ops tempo, and attention to detail are unparalleled and very hard to explain to the average civilian.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Mar 13 at 2016 5:42 PM

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There is a misconception that the only people who join are poor, stupid and don't have anything else going for them. This is also coupled with a perception that service members do not have to think and someone tells them what to do every second of the day....oblivious to the essential element to their premise that eventually someone, somewhere has to be thinking enough to tell someone what to do. Some of the smartest people I have ever met were in uniform. Specialists earning PhDs. Etc. the average person has never served a cause larger than their immediate family (if that) and see the teamwork and commitment to a service and a mission as mindless robots. It also defies sound bite worthy explanation.

Another misconception is we are all booze and drug addled, crazed and dysfunctional from our experience. Somehow broken beyond repair with no possible place in "their world", reserved to being pitied and living on the dole because they are ticking time bombs. There are certainly people who have given their all and not who they used to be, but the vast majority are no worse off than anyone else roaming the streets of America.

Response by SFC Marcus Belt made Mar 13 at 2016 5:53 PM

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I wish civilians would understand that we're an all-volunteer force.

I also wish that they understood that inter-service rivalry is generally good natured, and harmless, but most importantly, if you've never served, you don't get a vote.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Mar 13 at 2016 6:01 PM

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I wish people at large understood that we can learn just about anything, quickly. Wish they also understood that our certification, experience, and training that sounds kinda like the civilian thing is close enough and we can do it well with out much transition.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2016 6:26 PM

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That it is something everyone should experience. A side from serving your country, you come out with training, a brotherhood, organization, life and leadership skills. You are educated and have the opportunities to further educate. Striving for excellence and to be the best becomes your standard.

Response by SGT Dominick Bush made Mar 13 at 2016 6:30 PM

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Not all of us are broken or feel shame after a war. Some of us LOVE war. We were built for it. My heart goes out to the ones that lost themselves to it but me I would go back and stay there forever if I could.

Response by SPC Darren Koele made Mar 13 at 2016 8:23 PM

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Being deployed is not synonymous with shooting and killing people.
Being deployed does not mean; raping, pillaging, plundering, and shooting every man, woman, and child within our reach.
The military does NOT make the decision to go to war.
Service members don't go to war because they like it, they due it because they took an oath... an oath that means something to them.
The military is not a movie. Do not confuse Stripes, Private Benjamin, or Mash with real life. People of any rank do not have the privilege of shirking their duty, talking back to their superior, or just being a general smart ass without consequence.
Again, it is not a movie. We are not Rambo.
No, we are not stupid people with no other future. Most of us chose to join before we even graduated. I decided when I was 15 and signed up officially 2 weeks after my 17th birthday.
We are not criminals, we are not drop outs.
Some are open about their combat experience(s) and others are not; you'll just have to accept that. It's not always a case of PTSD or otherwise being "messed up". Sometimes it's just a case of selective expression. Hell, my dad still won't open up about Vietnam to me... but he does with other Vietnam Vets. It's it worth getting bent out of shape over? No. I just let him know that if he's every ready to open up, I'm willing to listen, and if not, I will continue to love and support him.

Response by SGT Michael Thorin made Mar 13 at 2016 11:00 PM

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1. We never let each other down.

It didn't matter what color of skin, nationality or religion you were, you were my brother. The only way that I would ever let my brother down, would be when I breathed my last breath. Because until that happened, I would always fight for them.

2. We always picked each other up.

When one of us was down or upset, the others would pitch in to make sure that soldier had the motivation he needed to stand up and get back in the fact, not because they needed to, but because they actually cared enough to.

3. Our lives become intertwined.

In Afghanistan and Iraq, our 1 and 1 1/2 year deployments throughout the conflict meant that we were physically detached from our family's. This led to many interesting conversations about family. We did not do so to feign interest, we did so because it kept us connected.

4. Whether we liked it our not, we did what our leaders (which the general public would refer to as manager or a boss) requested.

We learned early from our service that a chain of command and a rank structure is the most efficient "management model", if you will. It is not designed to satisfy each soldier individually, it is designed to accomplish the mission. Many times, the desire to make each individual happy, you will eventually piss everyone off.

5. We are not "killers and murderers".

We were sent to perform a job, and we did it. Our government required of us to accomplish a mission, and you cannot accomplish those missions with Nurf Guns and plastic knives. We were professionals doing our job and keeping each other alive.

6. The phrase, "you have never defended my freedoms, especially by fighting in Iraq", is incredibly offensive and shows a greater level of ignorance of how the world works.

Every man and woman who has, is, or ever will serve this Great Nation has, is and will be fighting for your freedoms. Every one is a hero, a hero that wakes up every morning sacrificing a great deal of their freedoms by serving in a military that stands to every day and tells all other nations that "we are ready for you, and you will not take our people or our Constitution and freedoms.

In closing, there are many people who walk around to day, and when their boss asks them to do something, that laugh it off and threaten to sue because "it looks and feels like he is targeting me."

Soldiers have lived through orders that they didn't like, but they did them, and they grew as men and women.

We didn't sell each other out, and we understood that our "bosses" weren't there to make us happy, they were there to get missions accomplished. It was our job, the NCO's job, to keep morale up while accomplishing the mission. Admittedly, there were many times it was a chess game, and also a few that were much like checkers.

Our Nation and our freedoms are most certainly being protected by the very existence of our military.

If you want to prove it; get rid of our military and see just how long it will be until we are overrun by Russia, China, heck, maybe even Canada.

I am, of course, joking a bit with using Canada, but I am sure we all get the point.

The very people who criticize our military and our National Defense budget, will be the first ones cursing when our military is no longer considered a World Power.

Response by Maj Doug Broussard made Mar 13 at 2016 11:54 PM

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I'm sure tha tmost people don't understand the comraderie and brotherhood that is form between members of a squadron that flew combat missions together. The group from the 336 TFS is spread ou t ove rthe Us and those of us who were in Ubon in '72 still consider each other like brothers. Until you've face the dangers of combat, you won't appreciate the help of those (in this case) me and leaders who help you do you job and survive

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2016 11:54 AM

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That the Army doesn't make you who you are, it takes the best things that you are (like determination, strength, loyalty, and compassion) and makes them better.
Mommy and Daddy had you for the first 18 years, The Army only had you for the last 2. If a Soldier screws up, look to the tree, not the basket.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2016 12:04 PM

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#1: We are not a bunch of Baby Killing Rapists.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2016 1:33 PM

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That most of us are here because we chose to be here and not because we "couldn't get a real job"...

Response by SFC J Fullerton made Mar 14 at 2016 1:47 PM

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That military leadership experience IS a transferable skill to supervisory and management positions in civilian occupations.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2016 3:01 PM

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We all do not have PTSD, VD, or in a militia. Col Joseph Lenertz

Response by LCpl Steve Smith made Mar 14 at 2016 4:22 PM

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What is something I wish more people understood about the military? Great Question Colonel. I wish people Really Understood what those that join the military sacrifice for them and our Country.

Response by Sgt Robert Rivard made Mar 14 at 2016 4:44 PM

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I try not to get myself involved with people like that. I joined in 1967. My Grandfather was in WW1. My Father in WW2. My Uncle in the Korean war. We are a military family as well as many others in the states. I did what I wanted to do to serve this country! Just the way it was and is with me!!!

Response by SSG Delanda Hunt made Mar 15 at 2016 2:08 PM

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That we didn't join up for the pay.

Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Mar 15 at 2016 8:12 PM

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COL Mikel J. Burroughs - Recently after separation, I had a senior manager approach me. Reverent of the camaraderie of the Corps, he asked for some ideas of things that we did in the Marines to develop teamwork. Although his intent was to conduct some sort of team-building exercise, he ended up NOT taking any of my suggestions... seemed he was more interested in avoiding a labor-relations complaint.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 9:15 PM

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This picture looks like it is taken at the end of the 'Darby Queen', Ranger Obstacal course. 42 years later, it's easier to grin.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2016 9:32 AM

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That we are not all "gung ho", "HOOAH", and obnoxious as some people and movies make us out to be

Response by CW3(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2016 4:04 PM

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Me personally..........WE DONT GET PAID MUCH!!!! People swear you are rich. I had to tell them if i didnt live in the barracks and have a meal card I WOULD BE BROKE

Response by CPO Andy Carrillo, MS made Mar 16 at 2016 8:16 PM

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The pain of being deployed and leaving one's loved ones behind, not knowing if you will return home above ambient temperature, and the joy of a reunion. As they often say in Hawaii: 'eh, no can!'

Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 16 at 2016 11:07 PM

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COL Mikel J. Burroughs That is a good one... I would say that all service matters, and that most of us are not in the Infantry and/or Special Operations...

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Mar 17 at 2016 6:28 AM

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That we were trained to help our state and country, that we were there to help them in times of need, and if need be defend our country.

Response by MSgt Tom Buglia made Mar 17 at 2016 10:10 AM

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The "Thank you for your service" is nice but, I did not stay in the Air Force 20 years for that. I think like everyone, we have our reasons why we join, do a tour or a career. A thank you is not necessary. Tom.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Mar 17 at 2016 10:45 AM

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1) Most people who enlist do not do so because they want to kill
2) Not everyone in the military is in a combat role
3) Not everyone in a Combat Role will see actual combat
4) The stupidest question you can ask someone who is or has been in the military is "Did you ever kill anyone?" with "How Many people did you kill?" being a close second.
5) You will call your best friends in the military some of the worst names.

Response by SFC Craig Dalen made Mar 17 at 2016 10:47 AM

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I would want everyone to truly understand what emotions we get going on deployment and how some changes are inevitable. Also the brotherhood that is formed with a bunch of people from all walks of life.

Response by CPO Frank Coluccio made Mar 17 at 2016 11:43 AM

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That the military isn't an 8-5, M - F job. It's 24/7/365.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 1:31 PM

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1. We are all not infantry (even if the Marine Corp likes to think we are)
2. There is literally a job for everyone with over 500 specialties over 5 branches (you could be a "pencil pusher" in air conditioned tent, or walk around M4 in the desert wishing you were that "pencil pusher' somedays, I find it very hard to believe that most people couldn't find a job where they at least marginally like what they are doing for their country)
3. That we are all badass, I wish but lets face it majority of us are not
4. To realize if you truly cared about your job you wouldn't quit your job becasue you disliked your boss, why would do that or decide not to join because of the President our CEO.
5. Were not better, we don't think were better, don't need a free meal or praise, and we don't expect anything more than anyone else; but there is no better feeling in the world than when average joe "civilian" who thinks we are.

Response by PO1 Ronald Schmiegelt made Mar 18 at 2016 11:52 PM

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There are too many preconceived ideas out there about military life and what the military does. These come from people who know nothing about the military other than what they see on TV. Also some military members have wrong ideas about what civilians doing similar jobs deal with.

In 1996 I was doing an insurance survey on an offshore supply vessel. When I finished I had several hours to kill before I could catch a ride back to shore. I struck up a conversation with the Captain of the boat. He told me that his company will no-longer hire out of the Coast Guard. He told me that they had hired a retired Coast Guard Master Chief (with the proper license) to be a captain of one of their vessels. He tried to run the boat much like a Coast Guard Cutter. He had too many people quit on him after the boat docked and it became too costly to keep him on the boat.

The tool pusher on a jack-up rig told me another story he had with the Coast Guard. He said that the Coast Guard performed an unannounced spot inspection on the rig. He said that the Officer in Charge of the inspection team demanded to see the deluge system work. The tool pusher refused, stating that his crew had just painted the deck on the drill platform. He would not run the deluge system until the paint had dried. This sparked an argument between the tool pusher and Junior Coast Guard Officer. When the tool pusher reported back to his company, one of the things that he was told was that nobody from the Coast Guard would work for that company.

After the Coast Guard, I had a superior tell me that I was taking too much time off to go to the VA for medical treatment. As military compensation (retired as well) and VA disability compensation is public information, during an evaluation, he tried to factor my retirement and VA compensation into my salary from the company.

Since my military service, I have filled out thousands of job applications and had over a hundred interviews. In my experience, hiring executives see veterans as damaged goods. They think we all have PTSD as well as difficulty functioning in society. Today there are too many people in senior civilian positions who have never served. I don't know how many times I have been told, "Thank you for your service, but we can't use you."

I don't intend for this to be a be all - end all story. There are many people out there who have had completely different experiences than I did. Unemployment among veterans is excessively high. This could be part of the reason.

We in the military work for both good and bad people. In the Marines I knew that, whether in or out of uniform, another Marine had my back. The Coast Guard still had camaraderie, but not to the extent of the Marine Corps. When I was in small boats or patrol boats, I had no doubt about my other crew members. On shore was a different story. There was more backstabbing going on.

In my years in the Coast Guard, I've worked well over a thousand Search and Rescue as well as law enforcement cases. These were both offshore and onshore in command and planning. I've seen some of the worst that nature has to offer. (Though much of it was at night and you couldn't see much without light.) Other peoples emergencies were a daily business for me. I learned to react as such. Many people can't understand why I'm calm and collected in urgent situations. Many others can tell similar stories, even from other branches of the service.

This has been longer than I intended. It'll probably raise some questions. I could probably write a book. I know that I'm not alone in this.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Mar 19 at 2016 8:13 PM

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One of my biggest goals was to see changes were done to improve the professional and personal lives of the soldiers and NCOs, and I would become a personal example. There were quite a few times in training meetings when the 1SG and the NCOs got my approval not because they were right, but everything being equal, they had passion in their discourse for their COA. I threw the best Christmas parties with a karaoke gong.

Response by SFC William Farrell made Mar 19 at 2016 10:51 PM

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The price we pay for service COL Mikel J. Burroughs; it's not aways a walk in the park!

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Mar 20 at 2016 12:50 AM

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That it's voluntary....that we sign up because we love our country and we fight for it....that we are people of HONOR and RESPECT .....and most of all....we see the BIG picture and KNOW that in order to protect our country, our loved ones, friends and family....that we may have to go to war....and we are okay with that if that's what it comes down to.........That the USA needs the Military more than they'll ever know...and that by shutting down bases, pulling out troops too soon and cutting back and cutting back and cutting back is only going to hurt WE THE PEOPLE in the long run.

Response by CW2 Fred Baker made Mar 22 at 2016 12:26 AM

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I left the service 45 years ago and my wife describes any gathering of "old soldiers" as brothers of a different mother. She gets it, not everyone else does.

Response by SGT Paul Mackay made Apr 16 at 2016 7:49 PM

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that I'm agood man besides what I was accused of in the Army

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Apr 17 at 2016 10:01 AM

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War is never like the movies. Death and injury is real. But the most of all: If it wasn't for people like us doing a job like this - they wouldn't have the right to complain about the UNITED STATES of AMERICA and burn, trample and abuse my flag.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Apr 17 at 2016 1:29 PM

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Based on my career in the Navy and a second career in the private industry, made it clear that the military will do anything to achieve an objective, regardless of any reward or commendation being considered. Some of the most innovative people, in the event of arduous situations, equipment issues or personnel shortages, and the job will be completed to ensure mission success. Civilians need a carrot to do anything that requires extra effort, with few exceptions. Unfortunately, once our military brothers and sisters become part of the civilian population, rewards are the motivation rather quickly.

Response by LTC Terrence Farrier, PhD made Apr 17 at 2016 10:26 PM

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Understanding the sense of duty for in some who have served. Another would be that all military members aren't the anal disciplinarians some form stereotypical judgements of them to be. The more rank you get the more you see how to help develop others instead of seeing someone who seems to refuse guidance. Done right, you can accomplish both.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2016 10:37 AM

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The biggest misconception I come across that I discuss w/non-mil folks is getting them to understand the plethora of jobs in the military required to make it run.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2016 1:45 PM

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I wish the new kids would be patient enough to wade thru the bs to bud their own stories. good stories don't happen in five minutes :)
Lot of hurrying up and waiting befire you can tell it in amusing tale..

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2016 2:07 PM

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Not everyone in the Air Force's jobs revolve around planes. It's funny going home and having people ask what plane I fly then seeing the look on their face when I tell them I don't.

Response by SSgt Jamie Ritter LeBlanc made Apr 19 at 2016 4:31 PM

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My personal favorite is when my brother in law was trying to tell my parents about the Vietnam war as if they hadn't served during the campaign.

Response by SSG Jeremy Kohlwes made Apr 19 at 2016 9:02 PM

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That we we were all just people doing a job, not some glorified heroes trying to save the world.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Apr 20 at 2016 10:04 AM

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I think it is the lessons learned in the military that will stay with you forever. i.e. Discipline, Pride, Leadership, Training, & Devotion to Duty, Corps and Nation. These were some of the lessons I learned a long time ago and not a day goes by that I don't think about some of them & recall my years of service.

Response by CW2 Fred Baker made May 4 at 2017 2:12 PM

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Camaraderie and esprit de corps is not a concept owned by the military alone, but it is, because of the nature of the military, unique. Most veterans saw their first years as an adult in the military. They were trained how to live in hostile environments. They necessarily bonded. They were then released to the civilian environment with no training on transition. It was akin to being dropped on a world of aliens and told to fit in. Sadly, civilians cannot understand veterans either. They can only equate the loyalty veterans have toward each other, good and bad characters alike, to the blind loyalty of a dog. They will never understand the trust of a comrade to have your back no matter what.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 8 at 2019 10:04 PM

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It doesn't matter so much now in my life, but when I first got out, I wish the civilian world had understood the responsibility and the difficulty of the associated tasks that I had handled during some of my time in the Army, even as a lowly E-5. I honestly felt like I was being talked-down to by people who had no clue.

At this stage, I'm not currently looking to do management, (I like being an "individual contributor"), but when I first got out, I could have performed management and leadership much better than twits that were appointed over me by corporate nincompoops. The business world puts way, way too much faith in college degrees. I most fully realized this after finally getting a degree. What I learned in college is a joke in comparison to what I learned in the Army.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 8 at 2019 11:02 PM

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It’s more than a job. It is a way of living.

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Jan 9 at 2019 12:43 PM

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That we are a cross section of American society, not perfect, but most of us believe in what we have chosen to do.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Jan 9 at 2019 12:51 PM

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First and foremost that we hate war more than they do. Despite that we go to wars based on the orders of our our civilian overseers.

Response by CPL James S. made Jan 9 at 2019 1:51 PM

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The first thing I wish they would understand is: Not all military members are in combat positions! Too often I see civilians assuming that because they wore the uniform they're killers or combat operators.

Then I would like them to understand that there are jobs in the military that require special training and circumstances giving you experience that far exceeds civilian training.

I would also like people to know that some of us join the military for reasons that can't be easily explained - how do you tell a random stranger that you joined because you experienced terrorism regularly and know what it's like to not have the rights they take for granted? They don't understand that living overseas means living by host nation laws, not US laws.

Lastly, I would like them to understand that just because you're an NCO or enlisted doesn't mean you're uneducated - some of us hold multiple degrees and chose the position or job they had because of a desire to be or do something that can't be done as an officer. For example, There are no military officers in the Fire Department.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2019 1:56 PM

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This is going to sound kind of silly, but I really wish people would realize we don't all know each other. I am guard and it never fails for someone to ask if I know their friend or family because they are also in the guard in my state.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jan 9 at 2019 2:03 PM

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While many claim they understand the sacrifices made, they cannot. Many of these amazing men and women could do quite well in other ventures but are hooked by the end of their first tour and make it a career. Overtime does not happen, the flat salary and benefits are adequate but not substantial. Military spouses are often stay at home for many reasons other tgan their own preference. The Garrison machine runs. largely by the volunteering spouses, so that second income is not often in play either. So when you hear that the government or politicians wish to cut benefits for retirement or otherwise push back asking them to look at the totality of the career Soldier/Family. Sacrifice is the middle name. Thank you all for your service.

Response by A1C Alexa Cosson made Jan 9 at 2019 2:40 PM

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Col. Burroughs, if only we could instill the pride and discipline in civilians, as we received in the military, this country would be great again, and the petty squabbles and pouting about trivial things would end. Everyone would treat their neighbors, co-workers and strangers, with respect, civility, and manners. People would find humor in things again, but take seriously what needs to be. Oh, were it so!!

Response by Cpl Thomas Woods made Jan 9 at 2019 2:59 PM

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Leftover 18th century stereotypes...That all enlisted personnel were uncuffed upon arrival at the recruit depot, or they're all poor kids who have zero skills other than killing people, and are only looking for a paycheck & bennies...And they know nothing of that feeling that those who serve in harm's way know only too well: When you put your life into the hands of another, you are bonded tighter than the "family" you left behind...They have NO IDEA! I'd say I wish there was a way that they could, but that is something that can only be understood from "the inside"...There is a small part of me that cherishes their ignorance. And whether they realize it or not, they don't want to know...Best kept that way.

Response by SPC Gary Welch made Jan 9 at 2019 3:09 PM

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That we do this to serve our country I gladly gave up alot for 19 yrs to defend my country. Even though I left the service with bad knees,ptsd,trouble sleeping , depression and some other stuff if I had to do it again I wouldn't hesitate for one second.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2019 3:21 PM

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Military service provides invaluable experience that you won’t necessarily gain by going straight into college or the job market. So while that service member may not have the exact qualifications employers may be looking for, there are things you can teach and things you can’t. Service shouldn’t hold a person back, post-service.

Response by LTC Jeff Shearer made Jan 9 at 2019 3:27 PM

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COL I am not sure because I just realized I have no friends outside the military hahaha I kill me

COL I think this is a conversation to have in person with you are a group of folks. As I booted this around this quickly became more than any of yall wanted to read. However, I will tell it is very interesting, I am pretty sure it is pulitzer prize winning material. Sorry COL I have lots of ideas as I said unfortunately I am having a hard time putting my thoughts together in a logical order.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Jan 9 at 2019 3:54 PM

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That we have Social Security and Medicare deducted from our pay!

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2019 4:03 PM

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That we do have the option to disregard unlawful orders.

Response by COL Jack Taliaferro made Jan 9 at 2019 4:52 PM

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Mike, you pretty well pegged it. The bonds formed. Brothers for life. Even tho you will probably never see most of them again, they are with you forever. Those who have not served cannot imagine how that really is.

Response by SGT Pappa Russ Scarvelli made Jan 9 at 2019 5:09 PM

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I would like for more people to understand that if you always perform at YOUR optimum level and utilize a "CAN DO attitude" that you will escalate beyond your own expectations.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Jan 9 at 2019 5:53 PM

2019-01-09T17:53:22-05:00

I guess I missed this one so here goes...

How much of a brotherhood it really is. We come from all walks of life and are molded to one common mission. That I know, active or retired, I have your back and you have mine..in combatand peacetime...and it goes till death as such. It is kind of like a brotherly fight about whos best...we can beat the crap out of each other but in the end nobody better never jump my brother or sister cause even though we may disagree on somethings we will gang up on you and fight like hell for each other...civilians just don't get that brotherhood that was forged in fire.

As an airman, I wish folks didn't think all we do is fly airplanes...many of us are combat veterans and only 4% fly airplanes...rest are rescuing, fueling, running combat logistics convoys, providing out the wire security, calling in air strikes, etc. That's my two pennies.

Response by PO3 William Hetrick made Jan 9 at 2019 6:41 PM

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The team work and camaraderie is a must but also people need to understand the sacrifices that military life has. The lifestyle of being away from your family and friends trying to protect your country. Then to come back and try to readjust to a civilian lifestyle.

Response by 1SG Thomas Griffiths made Jan 9 at 2019 6:42 PM

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My biggest thing is the MOS and education that separate people from everyday infantry. When I tell people the military have over 100 professions that can translate into the civilian society they look perplexed.

Response by SP5 Dennis Loberger made Jan 9 at 2019 6:44 PM

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At this time, I am sometimes thanked for my service. I feel awkward being thanked because it is not necessary for me nor do I feel I did anything special. I have at times highlighted what I wish people knew, that is that in my view my wife's sacrifices were far greater than mine. She didn't sign up to raise a 2 year old and newborn by herself while was overseas on less income than we had before I was drafted. People often refer to what we do but never talk about the family and their trials and tribulations. I did what the Army asked me to do and went where they told me to go. Nothing special in that. My wife is my hero because she did a remarkable job raising our 2 boys under trying circumstances. Never forget about the families... .. they serve too

Response by Cpl Tyler Therrien made Jan 9 at 2019 7:01 PM

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Some things we don't talk about, some things we CAN'T talk about, stop asking!

Response by PO2 Steven Michaeli made Jan 9 at 2019 7:21 PM

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Stop trying to bring us home; stop closing overseas bases. Understand that we want to serve, we want to travel, we would rather fight over there so we don’t have to fight at home

Response by SGT Quentin Moore made Jan 9 at 2019 7:25 PM

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We had each other backs.We looked after each other’s families when the other was gone.

Response by MSG Danny Mathers made Jan 9 at 2019 8:11 PM

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Soldiers have a Brotherhood that Civilians will never understand. The Brotherhood is forged by training, the military culture and friendships developed through the crusibles of determined endurance. The Brotherhood of War is something the protected will never be a part of. The only thing they need to understand is that the Military is the Sheepdog that protects the sheep (civilians) from the wolves. Opinions vary........

Response by 1SG James Matthews made Jan 9 at 2019 8:25 PM

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I wish they could understand that if you make a career in the military that when you retire you are not the same person you were in high school or college--your mind set has changed and the difference between a 100% civilian and a retired military civilian is and always will remain like the difference between night and day.

Response by MSG Frank Kapaun made Jan 9 at 2019 8:51 PM

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How mind numbingly boring a war zone is.

Response by SGT Donald Croswhite made Jan 9 at 2019 10:56 PM

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Allot of people think the military is a last ditch effort. Some of us are still patriots.

Response by CPT Ricky Riley made Jan 9 at 2019 11:29 PM

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The thing I would like people who haven’t served is that we do not get scared easily and we are not shaken easily. I have a saying. “No one is shooting at us, we can work the rest out.” People that know me know I am pretty laid back and don’t backdown.

Response by SFC William Farrell made Jan 9 at 2019 11:46 PM

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Well for us Vietnam veterans COL Mikel J. Burroughs its the we weren't baby killers and drug addicts and that we served honorably.

Response by SCPO Morris Ramsey made Jan 9 at 2019 11:54 PM

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My wife is really the only family member who really knows anything about the Navy and the things I did while I was in the Navy and what I did and continue to do part time as a DoD contractor. I used to try and explain to friends and family what I did and do even now. Things that I cannot tell them leaves them believing I must have done something else. They watch too many movies. I would like for them to know that if I could I would tell them more. They need to understand I am actually saving their lives by not telling them more.

Response by Cpl Bernard Bates made Jan 9 at 2019 11:57 PM

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Any one in todays world that doesn't have anyone they know, in the military, I don't think they know that the service is made up of individual men and women. It sad because in the pre Vietnam days service members were still respected. Because of the Draft almost everyone had or knew a service member. Individual GI,s were not forgotten. We were trusted. I remember in early 60,s I was in a bus station proudly wearing a marine green Uniform. I was a slick sleeve pvt. a man with a little girl came up to me, he wanted to use the restroom and asked me if I would watch is daughter while he went into the restroom so I did and when he came back out. he thanked me. Another time I was asked by an Old lady if I would help her with her luggage, so I did and she thanked me. I guess back then people looked up to a servicemember in Uniform as A public servant. To bad todays generation missed what is sorely needed today. Semper fi.

Response by Cpl Bill Johnson made Jan 10 at 2019 5:33 AM

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I wish people knew that infantry and the other combat arms are what the military really does. I am tired of hearing "what job skill didnyou learn?". I tell them in was a machineguner. They usually make a face and ask what I mean. Lol.

Response by 1SG Ernest Stull made Jan 10 at 2019 8:10 AM

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Mine is that Its a way of Life and just not a job. You Live Fight and die with your brothers and sisters in Arms and you have their back as they have yours.

Response by Col Randy Hagan made Jan 10 at 2019 1:03 PM

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I would love for the general public to understand that we in the military train hard for and prepare to fight in any war that may come, but, that doesn't mean we seek war, that we are NOT "warmongers" and that we in the military are subordinate to our elected officials. There are far too many non-military folks out there who believe that because we focus on the study the art and science of warfare we are eager to engage in it; they should understand we all recognize warfare as the very last resort to settle disputes and that our study and training makes it possible for us, if we must fight, to do it more effectively than any adversary and end it sooner with less loss of life and property.

Response by SFC Greg Bruorton made Jan 10 at 2019 1:05 PM

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"How many enemy soldiers did you kill?" is usually asked by young children and young adults that should know better. It is true that all soldiers must be familiar with rifles and pistols during their Army tenure but that does not mark them as killers.
The Combat Arms share that distinction because of their MOSs but not necessarily by the support arms. To the best of my recollection, I've never killed an enemy and for that, I am blessed.

My response to such a question is: "No. Usually, the infantrymen are required to do so but cooks, supply and unit clerks, communications and military intelligence members do not."
Depending upon the age of the asker I might elaborate on the different support arms that are in the military.

Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Jan 10 at 2019 1:15 PM

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That we miss being something greater than ourselves!

Response by SGT Forrest Fitzrandolph made Jan 10 at 2019 1:21 PM

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I would think the greatest things most people who never served don’t understand is the brotherhood of all devices. It is something that can never be replaced. Also losing members of our “brotherhood” is extremely difficult to not only explain, but to tell those that never put boots on the ground in a combat zone the circumstances we faced after our military obligation was finished. The one thing that makes having served is when comes up tome and thanks me for my service. It’s hard to accept sometimes because the ones that should get the thanks are those who never made it home. I miss them all. Thanks.

Response by Maj Robert Thornton made Jan 10 at 2019 1:23 PM

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I used to hear how poor the military medical system was. Nothing could be further from the truth. I would try to explain, the military medical systems are essentially the same as in any community. Are there problems, yes, but not really any different from any community medical system.

Response by CPO Charles Helms made Jan 10 at 2019 2:48 PM

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I wish civilians could understand what we sacrificed when we put on our uniform, just to keep them and the country safe!! Also why our bond is so strong and cannot be broken!!

Response by SFC Larry Jones made Jan 10 at 2019 4:25 PM

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One, just because I wear a uniform, do not expect me to be foul mouthed and vulgar. Some may be, but I am not. Speaking from my experience as a recruiter, do not assume that you know which branch of the service is best for your adult child (18 or older to join). That is his or her decision. Today's Army/Navy/Air Force/Marine Corps is not your__________________fill in branch.

Response by Sgt Deborah Cornatzer made Jan 10 at 2019 7:32 PM

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It’s not “just a job”. You don’t decide one morning that you want to quit or just not show up. True, a person can make that choice, but there are consequences, consequences worse than simply ”you’re fired”. I fear I’m sounding “old” and I don’t intend to, but if you don’t understand commitment, than don’t choose a military path.

Response by Sgt John H. made Jan 10 at 2019 8:33 PM

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I would second SFC Marcus Belt comments. I volunteered and served because it was the right thing to do. My experienced deeped my love for the country and strengthened my sense of duty.

Response by SPC William Szkromiuk made Jan 10 at 2019 10:40 PM

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If your family member or friend returns to civilian life. Express sincere interest in what they did and saw. If you cant manage that then don't say anything. Honor their service as much as they will allow. Also remember you will never be able to understand what being in the military is like.

Response by PO1 Kevin Dougherty made Jan 11 at 2019 1:07 AM

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Hmmm ... If I had to choose one thing, it would be to recognize the level of training and expertise that most members come out with. It seems that most see military current or former as somewhat lowbrow. I was and am very well read, and the level of training I had as a USCG ET-1 enabled me to hold my own with many who held an electrical engineering degree, but none of that was recognized outside of the military. I know from talking to others I was not alone in that respect.

Response by Nicci Eisenhauer made Jan 11 at 2019 2:58 AM

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COL Mikel J. Burroughs As a significant other for two deployments and an LEO daughter, not a Veteran myself... I wish that people in our communities would see that we have a deployed loved one and check on us once in a while. It's hard, it's lonely, and no one understands when you live off post. I wish more community members would embrace military families and try to understand, if not relate -- and maybe learn something.

Response by SPC Louis Miller made Jan 11 at 2019 1:21 PM

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It would be asinine to have any military service member advise that the camaraderie from serving and being with other service members did not benefit them. Having it, in and of itself, is a foundation for furthering oneself and the focus of building oneself in any aspect.

Being a Pershing-II vet is something any of those MOS's would advise that we would go back and do in a heartbeat. Skill sets and the INTENSE aptitude building that came from it are things that I still measure my ability to focus and have the drive to continue through whatever strife that encompasses my life. YES, the learning curve and extremes in learning felt like they were debilitating, for the fast track learning paces we had, but they were nonetheless truly beneficial.

If anything was obtained more than any other aspect of my service, it was my ability to see "outside of the box" and see others and their merits accordingly. This is NOT just seeing other service members. I say that with distinction because it includes my viewpoint of all of our societies and plethora of cultures, on this blessed planet, as being sacred and needing each other within their perspective environments and through all aspects of functioning. This being either conservative (as I am), liberal, neutral, or whatever that may be and I truly wish that each citizen of our blessed country had to serve and be enlightened with this same perspective of living on this blessed planet

Be encouraged

Response by MSgt Billy Zuber made Jan 12 at 2019 12:48 PM

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I wish people would understand that unless you served, and saw what we saw, and did what we did, you don't get to judge us. You can try and explain it to them, but they won't understand. There is an "Attitude", or "Opinion" among alot of veterans that reminds me of Col Jessup in the movie "A Few Good Men". Quote : I have neither the time nor inclination to explain myself to a man who sleeps under the very blanket of the freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way. Other - wise, I suggest you pick up a rifle, and stand a post..... Not the opinion of everyone, but it is for some.

Response by PO1 Robert George made Jan 13 at 2019 11:43 PM

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I'm not a 'gun nut'; I'm not a war monger; I'm not a drunkard; I'm not an ignoramus. I have an opinion and I'm allowed to express in the proper format, circumstance and respectfully(wish some civilians would learn that!) without being called names.

Response by SSG Rick Miller made Jan 17 at 2019 12:40 PM

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That it's not like the movies. That we're not mindless robots. That we aren't kill crazy. That we, more than anyone else, hate war. That we're real people, with hopes and dreams. That many of us carry a lot of pain. That we are really a pretty normal bunch, not some clown who's going to go off and start shooting.

Response by MAJ Montgomery Granger made Jan 17 at 2019 4:09 PM

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Wow! Great question! I can feel the catharsis welling up inside of me! Through my career in education (teacher and school district administrator) I interact with a LOT of people who have a wide variety of opinions about military personnel. When I tell them I served there is sort of a hesitation, and then usually a "Thank you for your service," which I appreciate. But after that it's a bit awkward. I can see the wheels turning - "Is this guy a baby-killer?" OK, probably an over exaggeration, but I usually go into medic mode (I started out as a combat medic in the Mech. Inf.), saying how I got in to "patch 'em up and not shoot 'em up." Which is kind of a betrayal. My first gig I was taught by a great 'Nam vet platoon sergeant, double EFMB, who told me, "Son, until somebody gets hurt, you're an 11-B." I trained as an infantryman with an aid bag. I learned almost every squad and crew served weapon before I even went to Basic (delayed entry program). I could shoot 'm up AND patch 'em up by the time I was through! I wish I could educate civilians that we are people too, just like them, who may have had some emotionally significant experiences in uniform. Everybody experiences fear, apprehension, anxiety and trauma at some point in their lives, but that doesn't mean we are violent people, especially in a civilian setting. I think there are some movies out there that play up the deranged vet too much. But, that's just me. Thanks for asking! Hooah!

Response by 1stSgt Jeff Blovat made Jan 18 at 2019 10:55 AM

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Though we volunteer to go, there is much sacrifice by everyone involved. Spouses and children left at home while the soldier is away. Just for starters. Always tough. Though very rewarding.

Response by CW3 Jack Beckman made Feb 3 at 2019 5:59 PM

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That the Army isn't Basic Training. Too many have this idea that the Army is all Basic Training, that a bunch of trainees are only there to be told what to do and cannot think for themselves.

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Feb 4 at 2019 12:48 PM

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When not in uniform and introduced to someone who will ask what I do, of course I answer that I am in the AF. Their next question always is "are you a pilot?" Instead of "what do you do? It's always the pilot question.

Response by SSG Aaron Gough made Feb 22 at 2019 11:15 AM

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Keep your hands out of your f@$#ing pockets!!

Response by LTC David Mott made Mar 6 at 2019 5:39 PM

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Almost always it has been that officer/enlisted, regular/reserve/national guard, Army/Navy/Marine/Air Force, black/white/Indian/hispanic, even draftee/volunteer, we are all on the same team and bleed the same color blood.

Response by MSG Chuck Pewsey made Mar 8 at 2019 2:38 AM

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I wish they understood the military evolves over time and the BS stories they heard from twenty years ago no longer apply.

Response by Cpl Dan A. made Mar 12 at 2019 11:06 AM

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We as Marines and soldiers do not make the wars we fight in. We don't initiate that process. So civilian, we swear an Oath to the Constitution, YOU send us to war through your votes for your elected Representative so. Don't hate the player, hate the game (of war.) We just do the dirty work YOU sent us to do...

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made Mar 12 at 2019 11:59 AM

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That most soldiers do not lie

Response by SGT Joel Greiner made Mar 12 at 2019 1:25 PM

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I wish civilians knew the difference, between what different branches do and what different mos's do. I've had to call out people stories so many times when they tell me their boyfriend was stacking bodies in Afghanistan, after I find out hes a desk jockey in the air force who has never stepped outside the wire.

Response by CPO Alonzo Holley made Mar 12 at 2019 3:17 PM

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A trained military person will immediately act on a situation and correct it while the civilian community holds a four hour meeting to come up with a solution before they act on it. In the end, the military man/woman will come up with a better solution more often.

Response by CPL Robert Short made Mar 12 at 2019 4:34 PM

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That you cannot claim the service of your family member.

It's great that your cousin, uncle, grandma served, but that doesn't mean YOU know anything about what it is like to be in.

Response by TSgt Rudy Adame made Mar 12 at 2019 5:32 PM

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It’s become very common to have close friends relationships,as a complete family.

Response by PV2 Brandon Williamson made Mar 12 at 2019 6:20 PM

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We can’t just call out of work

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2019 6:20 PM

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I recently transitioned to AGR in the reserve after 13 years in the Regular Army. This means living away from a traditional military community, although NS Great Lakes is nearby. Our babysitter was shocked when she saw me in civilian clothes because she didn't think I was allowed to take my uniform off. Classic!

Response by SPC David Dougherty made Mar 12 at 2019 6:21 PM

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It is something that is greater than oneself. A Force of various Branches that are seperate and different in their goals. A deadly force and highly technologically advanced protector of America and along with our Allies kicking the oppressors in the World down from their regimes. A Military that has high standards and is not and should never be a social experiment. Lastly, it is an all Volunteer Force. It is not for all, but those who made to their respect team be it any of the 5 branches yeppers to include the Coast Guard. It is one heck of an experience and only those whom served xan understand it.

Response by SPC Denton McLaughlim made Mar 12 at 2019 6:36 PM

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Accountability. I despise people that are full of excuses or won't accept responsibility for something.
If you screwed it up. You screwed it up. Man up and own it.

Response by MAJ Steve Daugherty made Mar 12 at 2019 7:01 PM

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I remember feeling a bit lost after getting out the first time and starting College. In the Army I had identity and a place I belonged, I was aware and sure what my subordinates and my superiors were supposed to do and if they didn’t do it right I could make them as we all were under the same rule book. In college I became a student number and each professor had his own rules. On top of that you had to figure out the rules on your own as they didn’t let you know.

Response by SP5 Douglas Armfield made Mar 12 at 2019 10:21 PM

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most stories you hear about come from boot camp. Yes boot camp is part of the military, but it doesn't present a true picture of the military. It's just a tool for when you through several hundred strangers, from all walks of life into a whole new phase of their lives. Much of the military can be like a regular job. Combat is the exception to this. My war was Viet Nam. I'm sure things are much different know but I'm guessing combat is still long stretches of boredom coupled with sheer terror. While you do learn to live with it you never get used to it. Now it's a great chance to get some very good job training.

Response by SGT Randall Smith made Mar 13 at 2019 12:00 AM

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I had buddies and friends when stationed in Germany. As a Pvt, PFC and Spc4 there were lots of buddies. As a Sgt the friends was a smaller circle. In Nam I knew guys but had no friends. However there were those you could trust to cover you and help when needed. This civilians don’t understand. You may not like a person but when in trouble you will be there for them and they for you.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2019 9:06 AM

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Different types of people from all walks of life, different countries, different social backgrounds, different political beliefs, different races/religions all getting along very well to accomplish a goal with minimal problems.

Response by SGT David Mullins made Mar 13 at 2019 10:21 AM

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The Army changed my life. Getting my draft notice in 1965 was the best thing that ever happened to me. I decided to join and learn a trade so I could get out of the small logging town where I was raised. I ended up in Germany working in the JAG division, a long ways from a veneer plant worker. After discharge I started school in Seattle where I met my wife. 49 years later, we are retired and we are as much in love as we always were. Thank you Uncle Sam.

Response by PO1 Eric Bigelow made Mar 13 at 2019 10:30 AM

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even though I was coastie. and I had been navy before, don't think I was not gone over 180 days a year when I served on ships.

Response by PO2 Jeff Klein made Mar 13 at 2019 11:08 AM

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The shared experiences that make friendships that have lasted years later. Whatever was going on - hazardous duty, deployments over the holidays, or just command BS - we were all in it together and equally.

Response by SGT Tj Casiano made Mar 13 at 2019 12:10 PM

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That we're not all heroes, so stop using that blanket label. It's embarrassing.

Response by CPT Tom Fawls made Mar 13 at 2019 12:56 PM

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I wish they'd stop telling me (a peace-time soldier from the 80s) "thank you for your service".

I do understand that most folks say it with a sincere desire to show appreciation, but I did nothing to warrant recognition.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2019 2:20 PM

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Civilians need to understand the premium the military places on education. Many of us hold degrees, obviously the officers do, but many enlisted soldiers do as well.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2019 2:43 PM

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I'd tell anyone thinking of joining that it's not merely a choice between Army, Navy, USAF, or USCG.
Each of those branches has literally hundreds of different jobs to choose from.
It's far more important to pick the job you're best suited for and which branch offers the best training in that field.
After that, it's merely a matter of completing initial training.

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Mar 13 at 2019 2:54 PM

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I have not once killed a baby. Hell, I haven't even killed an adult.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2019 4:21 PM

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That it is a privilege to serve. I think society is beginning to see the military as a corporate entity who should be exactly like the private sector and ensure accommodations are made for everyone. People should understand that we are trying to win our nation's wars and that there are negative implications behind policies that might make them feel good at night.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2019 5:42 PM

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I just know when I'm doing my military job there is more of a concept of teamwork than with my civilian job. That being said the vast majority of people I work with on the civilian side still call some of us baby killers. I think most of them lack the courage and strength to do the job that we do. No heart beats harder than the heart of a volunteer. I volunteered to do this job and I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Response by CPL Eric Bedford made Mar 13 at 2019 8:21 PM

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The largest misconception is that soldiers, salilors, marines and airmen are all war mongers and all pray for war. I tell them that no one wants peace more than those who fight wars.
I ask them, civilians, if they think a sane person would want to risk their life if there were a peaceful solution. I let them know that the reason for the military is defense of their home land and also a resolution when all other options have failed. Use of military forces is always a last resort.

Response by SrA Derrek Cherry made Mar 13 at 2019 8:25 PM

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My biggest problem with the civilian understanding is I refuse to cut corners on jobs and falsify documents at my workplace. They also don't understand why I am not still in the military. They assume I quit. I try to get them to understand I'm disabled now and can't go back. But because my disability is more hidden (exercise-induced bronchoconstriction) they dismiss it as me lying. I also try to get people to understand that military soldiers are smart people! Most people think you just have to exercise and shoot things. I try to explain that there are complex jobs that many soldiers have to do but they have a preconceived idea that most soldiers are dumb, uneducated and possibly convicts.

Response by LTC Gene Moser made Mar 13 at 2019 8:33 PM

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I never heard this word after taking the oath, but when I got involved with adult military brats, I heard "sillyvilllian." Yep. Now I was born during WWII. My mother went home to have me - home being in Louisiana. So I've actually gone back to where I was born and there were friends and family there -still are. They told me Alex is my home town. I tell them, or told them, "No, Fort Sill is my home town." I actually started kindergarten there and part of 1st grade. Arty basic course, FA advanced course, refresher course for prefix 5, taught gunnery in a USAR school, etc. I'm leaving some money to my daughter so she can go there and scatter some of my ashes there. Funny thing, my late wife, a member of the Order of Molly Pitcher, who couldn't spell "army" when we met, understood the military very well. Some can. Most can't

Response by LT Don Mead made Mar 14 at 2019 8:38 AM

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I wish 18 year olds knew how many of them would regret not serving when they were 50 year olds.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2019 9:41 AM

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I wish there was a way to explain how deeply rooted the altruism we have generally runs. The fact that most of us are willing to accept some unkown risk or danger later on in order to help someone who is in certain risk or danger now. Even if we MIGHT have a more difficult situation in the future, we're gonna take those odds to help someone else who needs it right now. Doesn't matter for who, we're willing to do that almost instinctively, both in or out of uniform

Response by SCPO Frank Carson made Mar 23 at 2019 8:21 PM

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The military life has never been captured in any movie ...

Response by SGT Daniel Myers made Mar 24 at 2019 5:48 PM

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You're never going to be a civilian ever again. Sometimes I work with policemen and they can be cliquey to just like military people. Some think that military people for instance have no business helping to guard schools and the like from domestic terrorism. I would put up a highly trained, highly skilled, military veteran, against the best trained Leo's out there head to head, and they would be embarrassed. Many of us, even though we may have left the military life behind, doesn't mean we've abandoned our friends, our training, our continuing education and commitment to defending our Nation's Constitution which ALL of us swore an Oath to protect, defend, and preserve from ALL enemies foreign AND domestic. NONE OF US HAVE EVER BEEN RELIEVED OF THIS OATH! The things we were all taught will come flooding back when needed. They were drilled into each and every one of us that looked into the eyes of the dragon and have lived to talk about it. Civilians don't know real problems, struggles, stress, PTSD, loneliness, fear of being alone with your own thoughts. The biggest thing I hate is the one's that tritely say; "thank you for your service", to which I want to reply; "that's great and all now, but where were you 44 years ago when I came home to people spitting on me?" I would rather hear this from another veteran and they seem very pleased when I thank them for their service and welcome them home. Sorry, touchy subject for me.

Response by CPT Keith Whitter made Mar 26 at 2019 10:33 AM

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I believe that what the average civilian should understand is the amount of hard work and dedication from our military members that they produce each day, and that they are there voluntarily defending the rights of our nation's citizens.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2019 6:24 PM

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I wish people understood that the military isn’t just made up of people who didn’t have another option in life. There are so many programs and professions we all go into! There are doctors, lawyers, nurses, technological specialists and so much more.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2019 2:59 AM

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I wish they would understand that we do not think we are entitled to anything such as military discounts and/or boarding a plane before the rest of the civilians; those are just perks. I do not use those perks unless it really helps a charitable cause or a significant discount price for a family pack of theme park tickets. LOL. But to play Devil's Advocate, no Service Member should go around demanding military discounts and thinking that they're entitled just because they're in the service. The Military is an all volunteer service, you joined to serve your country and reap all the college, medical and housing benefits you can get, anything more, you're being a douchebag.
I, nor you or any service member should ever demand a "thank you for your service" from a civilian. If a civilian thanks you, accept it and politely say, "thank you" back or politely say something humble. I, on the other hand, get angered when a Veteran dislikes when a civilian says "thank you for your service". Hey Sarn, that person really means it and that civilian is thanking you for their freedom and safety. If you don't like it, don't let anyone know you're in the military like when you ask for a discount, wearing your uniform in a public place or before boarding a plane. Simple.
I say, "Thank you for your service" to the WWII, Korean War and Vietnam vets. Those are the true people you should be thanking. If we lost WWII, we'd be speaking German, probably wouldn't exist or end up being slaves.

Response by MAJ Javier G. made May 12 at 2019 2:45 PM

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What I wish people understood about the military is that we are not a laboratory for social experiments. We are an institution of age-old and proven laws and regulations dedicated to protecting our Nation and its interest.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 6 at 2022 5:27 PM

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There is a basic love and respect for each other on the battlefield. People understand hold at old cost. Provide covering fire. Sometimes a person will unilaterally take the initiative to lessen the risk to the unit, and sometimes people will take the bullet for a partner or jump on a grenade.

Response by CPL LaForest Gray made Jan 6 at 2022 5:30 PM

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The real sacrifices people make & what selfless service actually means.

Response by Sgt Javier Romero made Jan 6 at 2022 5:58 PM

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That those of us who have served didn't join to kill people or to just go kick in doors in Iraq or Afghanistan but that it was a calling and that we didn't join for money, nor fame, nor accolades. Also that it's a shame that there is such a thing as "homeless veteran"

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 6 at 2022 5:59 PM

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That we all embrace(d) the suck and the rest will never understand.

Response by SPC Terry Page made Jan 6 at 2022 6:41 PM

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A committed love of country, it's Constitution, and our Brothers and Sisters in arms.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 6 at 2022 6:57 PM

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That the military definition of " now" is different from the civilian one.

Response by SGT Mark Anderson made Jan 6 at 2022 8:36 PM

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That many people would have had more compassion for the military personnel who had served in the 1960s and early 1970s; that the former had treated - and treat - those veterans with the respect that they had deserved for serving during an unpopular war.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 7 at 2022 12:48 AM

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That being a service member is not the same as being a civilian. The army doesn't act like a civilian entity. Rules and rights are very different. Still can't even make my wife understand this. LOL

Response by PO1 Frank Reiffenstein made Jan 8 at 2022 9:22 PM

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I wish the people going into the military know that there is a Uniform code of military justice. Don't try to change the system because of your beliefs. That includes haircuts,clean shaven and uniform worn properly.

Response by PO2 David Harlow made Jan 13 at 2022 4:57 AM

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This will seem minor to some, but it used to steam my windshield when I'd hear people, usually young just out of high school types, complain because they had to go somewhere away from home for...a week. I realize many people have never left their mother's side in their life, so a week seems big to them. But to me, a week was a training cruise for high speed turns to make sure the props were put back on right.

Response by SP5 Donna Barr made Jan 14 at 2022 11:45 AM

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They need to understand that our military joins - by their own admission - for “jobs” rather than their proper role as public servants. Which makes them mercenaries.

Response by 1st Lt James Lipski made Jan 15 at 2022 9:54 PM

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I wish civilians understood I did not join because I am a "war-monger". I did not join to go kill babies. I joined to challenge myself and learn new skills.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 15 at 2022 10:32 PM

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I wish people in the military actually understood more about the military, specifically the Army.

Response by SPC David Buttrey made Jan 17 at 2022 2:48 PM

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With the exception of people that were drafted we volunteered to do a job that a lot of people can’t or couldn’t do. Most of us were not blood thirsty maniac that joined because we wanted to be able to kill people legally. We don’t start wars. Politicians do but will fight to the death to defend our country. Some of has seen things that will give people nightmares and have to live with it the rest of our lives.

Response by CPO Jack De Merit made Jan 29 at 2022 5:00 PM

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Far too many people do not understand that the Military are like Global Police Officers. Their job is to defend our country, its citizens and its values wherever they are. How hard is that to understand?

Response by SPC Joseph Tudda made Mar 11 at 2022 9:45 AM

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The fact that once you raise your hand you are subject to a completely different set of rules rights and justice system.

Response by SPC Dennis Kregel made Mar 20 at 2022 10:28 AM

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It's funny as I read this question I heard my drill sergeants voice from 30+ years ago teaching me lessons that would guide me well for a lifetime.

I still fondly remember people I served with that I felt closer to than some of my own family members.

There may have been some I served with who I wasn't particularly fond of but that doesn't for one second mean I wouldn't have instantly risked my life to help save theirs.

That to this day the sense of pride that wells up in me for the day I took my oath and of graduation day from basic.

These are things no civilian will ever know...

Response by MAJ Lyle F. Padilla made Mar 23 at 2022 3:25 AM

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That Hollywood gets 90% of it wrong and a good way to f**k up your life is to assume that if it's in the movies or on TV it must be true. (ALL real life, not just the military!)

And particularly that once you're done with Basic Training/Boot Camp etc, day to day life is nothing like the rigidity of Basic/Boot Camp.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2023 4:08 PM

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I am able to say the following based upon experiences with others in RallyPoint.com: There are good people in the military. There are excellent leaders who care about others: subordinates, peers, and supervisors.