Posted on Dec 26, 2019
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I began the application submission about a month ago and requeted a memo at least three weeks ago through my FLL. We both have reached out to the Unit Admin NCO and have yet to receive any type of response. The tour begins in Feb.-March 2020 timeframe.
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It's time to move up the NCO support chain to check on this.

NCO Support Chain, Activate!
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Shape of memorandum for record, form of a DA4187. If you don't know what this is....google Super Friends Zan and Jana.
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LTC Jason Mackay LOL
I forgot that an E5 today most likely completely missed the reference.
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Sir, that is hilarious. Glad to see I'm not the only one who knows the REAL Super Friends. I am going to put that 4187 together myself and send it through my chain. I actually typed up a memo previously and sent it forward, but was told that the format is out of regulation according to changes in the AR 25-50. I figured it might be best to let the current 42A full timers handle it in that case. But a DA 4187 sounds like a good step for me to push things a little fast forward. Thank you again.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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SGT (Join to see) it’s your deployment...
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SGT (Join to see) I am assuming you already have immediate supervisory chain buy in.

Which level Commander is required? If it is BN or BDE reach out to the XO.

Find out when they will be there. Write the memo with their signature block. Have someone else look at it. Request an office call and/or show up. Tell them what you are asking for and request they approve the memo by signing it.
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LTC Jason Mackay - Write the memo now, email it now, directly to your CO, cc your platoon SGT, PL, and your AGRs, then ask your CO about it at JAN IDT if you didn't get it back signed by then.
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LTC Jason Mackay - Way ahead of that sir. As soon as I got the commander's verbal blessing, I started typing up a memo and submitted it to my FLL for a second set of eyes. That is when I was informed that my template was no longer IAW AR 25-50 due to some type of changes (he just wasn't sure what the changes were. As a civilian, I work as a substitute teacher and spend much of my evenings reading and grading tests and quizzes for 53 students. I figured the AGR 42A should certainly be up on any new changes and be able to hammer one out real quick.
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SGM (Join to see) - I must say...I am by no means lazy or anything. However, when I was an AGR 42A in another state, memos and packets for M-Day SM's were my responsibility and I received a couple of azz chewings for not getting a memo or a packet taken care of in a timely manner once the commander authorized us to proceed with whatever was being requested. I just feel that the same should be done now that I am the M-Day. Though I am going to re-write my original memo and see if I can research what adjustments must be made. If we want something done...gotta do it yourself I suppose.
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SGT (Join to see) -
One thing I learned before I enlisted:
If you need something done for you, you need to get it done.
Three things I learned early on in the Army:
1. Your career is solely your responsibility.
2. If YOU need a memo for something, YOU write the memo for that something.
3. It's not called "42A Writing Style", it's called "Army Writing Style', because it is the responsibility of everyone in the Army, not just one 42A per company. There's a reason why it's taught at every level of NCOES. You may need to hit up the unit for letterhead and office symbol, but the memo format is AR 25-50, and the most current version of that resource has been available online to all since the 1990's.
I realize there are MDAY commanders and MDAY soldiers out there that believe anything military that happens between drills is the sole responsibility of AGRs.
That is not always the case.
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