What is the difference between 11B and 19D?

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 9:33 AM

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19Ds are cooler. They wear Stetsons and spurs and not some silly baby blue cord.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 10:06 AM

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SSG Private RallyPoint Member, Shame on you and your blasphemy! Hahahaha

PV2 J M The answer is simple. Who is the warfighter and who is the Support? Infantrymen (11B) are the primary combatant force of the military. Cavalry Scouts (19D) are nothing more than hilltop observers. They "creep" up in their moderately armored BFV, watch the enemy, and then call the warriors into battle. The Infantryman is the knife in the dark and the nightmare to the evil at heart. The Cavalry are Peeping Toms.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 10:18 AM

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They are different job/roles, even if some of their skill sets overlap.
The infantry is the main land combat force and backbone of the Army. They are responsible for capturing, destroying and repelling enemy ground forces.
The cavalry scout is responsible for being the eyes and ears of the commander during battle. They track and report their activity and direct the employment of weapon systems to their locations.
Primarily combat, closing with and destroying the enemy, vs. primarily reconnaissance, gaining rout and enemy information to better allow the maneuver and use of combat forces.

Infantry units may conduct reconnaissance, cavalry scouts may engage the enemy in direct combat, but their overall role and function is simply different.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 11:50 AM

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Cav scouts wear big hats and spurs.
Infantry have blue cords and better promotion rates.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 12:15 PM

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Any Questions?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 2:16 PM

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An 11B can generally pass a tape test unlike your average 19D, just don't ask him to pass a math test.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made May 1 at 2018 3:37 PM

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Nothing. They both get locked up by the MPs.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 4:07 PM

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BA11S

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 4:11 PM

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Cavalry-Ride
Infantry-Walk

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 4:37 PM

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Go 11B

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 4:47 PM

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Response by SSG Steven Mangus made May 1 at 2018 5:26 PM

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Stetson and spurs..nuff said..

Response by SPC James Harsh made May 1 at 2018 7:11 PM

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idk

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made May 1 at 2018 8:10 PM

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19Ds have functioning brains and 11Bs think that they are more manly wearing baby blue. Pretty simple.

Response by SGT Christopher Hayden made May 1 at 2018 8:22 PM

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One is the Infantry, the other wishes they were.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 9:00 PM

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Coolness.
Cav guys roll around with very questionable headgear, and think they are cooler for it.
Infantry guys walk around everywhere, bitch about it, then brag about how tough they are to anyone who will listen.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 11:50 PM

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11B Fights, Cavs recon and break contract and reports to 11b where the fight is.

Response by SGT James Colwell made May 2 at 2018 10:56 AM

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Response by SGT Patrick Reno made May 2 at 2018 11:14 AM

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Well Jordan you didn't get a direct answer to your question. As you can tell there is a lot of shit that flys back and forth between the different MOS's. When the shit hits the fan we all fight together thoughr. Good luck in what ever you pick. At least you are on the right path by not picking the Air Force.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 3:26 PM

2018-05-02T15:26:04-04:00

Just so your tracking you will most likely get a lot of stupid answers asking a question like that. How ever as a former infantrymen I will leave you with this. Every one likes to say they were pretty much infantry. No one ever says I was pretty much cav.

Response by SPC Roger Giffen made May 2 at 2018 4:33 PM

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Give ma an old school 95B any day.

Response by SPC Rj Wasser made May 2 at 2018 5:26 PM

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19D - When you want somebody that's not quite Infantry, and not quite a FISTer.

Nothing against my Cav Scout brothers, but y'all can't CFF for shit.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 6:52 PM

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19D's are in a class with cooks, computer/network repairs, mechanics, and field artillery. They are called POGs.

Response by SSG Johnnie Vaughn made May 2 at 2018 7:01 PM

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Ahhh, grasshopper. The differences are many, but so are the commonalities.

-- Basic mission: others are posting on this so it is covered
-- 19Ds have to have normal color vision; 11Bs just have to be able to tell the difference between the red (stop) light and the green (go) light.
-- Only 11Bs can earn and wear the highly coveted CIB and EIB, and the blue cord; 19Ds have the spurs and hats for functions, but it just isn't the same. Still, both of these uniform distinctions give each MOS an advantage when seeking companionship of the feminine persuasion at a ball. (I probably should say appropriate persuasion since neither MOS is gender-restricted now.)
-- However both know in their hearts that they are the baddest, meanest, toughest, yet coolest warriors that ever walked the face of the earth. This contributes to a certain confidence that causes all other support personnel to quake and quiver when either walk in the door.
:-)
JV
Former 11B3H and 19D3HD3

Response by SGT Lisa Fields made May 2 at 2018 10:51 PM

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I give you a simple example from a true story of my scouts and infantry training together.

My instructs on the range.
Drop the mag and move off my range hurry up!
My two scouts see mag table 10meters behind me and move out.

The frightend of the 6ft1 NCO he had never heard yell before or even seen angry before the 11b with a deer in head lights look drops it in the dirt at his feet and turns to leave while tripping over his own feet....

That is the day I thanked god I did not go infantry I be in jail on murder 1.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 11:33 PM

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11Bs or the Infantryman is where you want to be. It’s like the 11Bs are the varsity where the 19Ds are the JV.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2018 5:00 AM

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19D go in and find the enemy, and 11B go in and kill them. Hence Calvary Scout. Hence Infantry..

Response by CPL James Barnstead made May 3 at 2018 5:42 AM

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I’m an 11B, my last tour in Iraq I was in a mixed 11B 19D platoon. I love calling scouts gay as much as any 11B, but in Iraq we did the same job. We had a mixed platoon and even squads, I honestly have a hard time remembering who was Infantry and scouts, and despite the fact the hats are gay, some of the best NCOs and soldiers I ever worked with were scouts. I’d go in to combat with those guys any day, but definitely think you guys need to do something about that “scouts out” thing....

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2018 8:10 PM

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Infantry kick doors, infantry dig holes, infantry ruck, infantry drive, infantry shoot. Infantry smash everything in a room with forehead. Infantry do everything.
Cav scouts recon; infantry scouts do it better.

Response by SSG Eduardo Ybarra Jr. MS Psyc made May 5 at 2018 12:26 AM

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To hear the truth about what the difference is: 11B's are the fighting force for the Army; 19D's are the jock strap which supports the fighting force.

Response by PFC Andrew Walburn made May 5 at 2018 2:05 AM

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Infantrymen close in and destroy the enemy. 19D, cav scouts I believe, they find the enemy and relay that information to higher ups. They engage the enemy if necessary. But since they are a tactical asset, their standing orders are to avoid contact at all costs.

Response by CPL Chris Palmberg made May 5 at 2018 8:22 AM

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Once upon a time, before the Army in its infinite wisdom decided it had too many MOS, there were shades of gray. IIRC, the were 5-6 11 series MOS, two of which, 11M, Mechanized Infantryman, and 11H, Anti-Armor Infantryman, were very much like a cav scout... the former were the M2 Bradley (and M113 before that) crewmen, while the latter were assigned in 4-5 man teams in a TOW equipped vehicle. When the Great MOS Purges of the Post Gulf Era occurred, the former was absorbed into 11B, while the members of the latter were absorbed into 19D

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2018 4:06 AM

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It has been a minute saying 18 yr since I was an 11B all joking asside the answers you are getting has been the same since I joined. Except now 11B has a Stryker and ride until dismount then walk. 19D ride till they die. But both do have different missions and we did joke about the 1 11B in the 3/9 that decided to go to the dark side and drive everywhere. RLTW!!

Response by Cpl John Barker made May 7 at 2018 2:27 PM

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Go 11B if you want to keep your career options open in the infantry, cavalry scout is kind of a black hole from what my army buddies have told me

Response by SPC Jon Putnam made May 10 at 2018 11:53 AM

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11B (infantryman) walks first in to fight 19D (cav scout) they ride around and watch from a far and come in if the infantry need help.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2018 1:44 PM

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Its honestly like trying to compare Christianity and Catholicism. Both are sneaky, both are deadly, both are a force that is unparalleled. But they have different doctrines that they follow.

Response by SGT Forrest Fitzrandolph made May 14 at 2018 1:40 PM

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19d is a scout mos. 11bravo is light weapons infantry

Response by SGT Forrest Fitzrandolph made May 14 at 2018 1:43 PM

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11bravos are the badass dudes.

Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made May 14 at 2018 2:29 PM

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as you have seen in this thread - there is a lot of banter going on between members of both MOS's, but the bottom line is - Infantry has had the EIB, and CIB since Jesus was a private with only the medics having a comparable award - So - if you want to be a member of a time honored, respectable, and all around baddest MF in the valley , you go Infantry - if you just want to say "I did some infantry stuff" go Cav Scout. Infantry has The Rangers - quite possibly the baddest of the baddest MF's in the valley, Cav Scouts have a stetson

Response by SSG Harry Outcalt made May 14 at 2018 8:50 PM

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11b can do the job of a 19d , 19d can't do the job of a 11b

Response by SFC David Bentley made May 14 at 2018 10:29 PM

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Having been a medic in both a scout platoon in an armor BN and a infantry company, the biggest trouble scouts get into is direct action. The best scouts I ever worked with were awesome at being unseen and quietly calling in 120mm mortar fire. Blue cords have their role, kill stuff. Both branches are fine and wish they were as cool a a Combat Medic, spent my fair share putting IVs in to hung over 11Bs and 19D.

Response by SP5 Arthur Ben Ephraim made May 15 at 2018 3:50 PM

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What's the difference between Cavalry and ARMOR 19E. Cavalry travel light and hit hard and BUG OUT, yet are always seeking ARMOR detach MBT AFV of ARMOR OOB and give that MBT to CAV. What can CAV do that ARMOR can not ? A: Read a map........

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made May 22 at 2018 11:12 PM

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19Ds find where the enemy is. 11Bs kill the enemy. Its that simple.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made May 26 at 2018 12:29 AM

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Enjoying the comments from both sides (one of those 'you had to be there' situations) but not sure if any of them except SMSgt Ian Short's comment will give you any useful information.
Damn shame it was an Air Force Sergeant's comment that gave you the best answer for a question about the Army.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made May 26 at 2018 9:02 PM

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Depictions are to scaled to Infantry Team/Squads and Cavalry Squad/Section elements.
The units are manned with similar numbers but purposed for different missions.

Response by CPT Philip Bailey made May 28 at 2018 1:21 PM

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Why carry your weapon into battle when your weapon can carry you? :)

Response by CPT Philip Bailey made May 28 at 2018 2:58 PM

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FYI There is a shortage of 19D NCOs.

Response by SFC Carlos Cruz made May 29 at 2018 7:50 PM

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If you or anyone else can’t see the difference omg please don’t join the Army, go Navy ok.

Response by CPT Tom Parr made Jun 13 at 2018 9:38 AM

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While at Ft Knox OSUT in '90 I learned "If you ain't Cav...you ain't sh--!" Rhwn when I went to FAOBC in 1995, I learned that the Redlegs were the "King of Battle" and that we needed to stay strong so that the "queen" of battle didn't get assaulted in a very personal way.

Response by SPC Franklin McKown made Jun 19 at 2018 11:33 AM

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as my infantry brothers misconstrue the RECON job I am FORCED to remind them all, we as scouts do THEIR job as part of ours on a regular basis, but having DEALT with a HORRIBLE infantry E7 NCO in Desert Storm THEY struggle with recon.
Cav is the heavy maneuvering arm of America's military ,WE pick the fight then call the afore mentioned colleagues to clean it up while we look for more...depending on the TYPE of conflict
OH yes and all the collective bastards don't let scouts in sniper school,at a guess because we'll smoke them ...I CAN'T say now.

Response by SPC Corey Blue made Jun 24 at 2018 6:55 PM

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Go on sand hill as an 11X and your Drill Sergeant has a real hilarious answer to that question

Response by SGT Christopher Spellman made Jun 26 at 2018 12:50 PM

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Who even asked this? GTFO and use Google.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 29 at 2018 5:30 PM

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2 letters and 7 digits. LOL! So it really goes like this. The infantry is the largest of all MOS's in the U.S. Army meaning it has the largest amount of Soldier's that all do the same job. It is referred to as the Queen of Battle. As every married man know that a Queen will rule her King. The king may have the voice for his people to hear but he's gonna do what his queen tells him he'll do. Imagine it like an old wagon wheel. There's a center hub, many spokes and an outer wheel. The infantry would be like the hub, the support jobs would be like the spokes and outer wheel would be like the artillery or King of Battle. Can the hub still roll down a hill with out its spokes and outer wheel. Yes it can, however its efficiency is greatly diminished without its spoke and outer wheel. Can the spokes roll down a hill? Most likely yes but they'll be even less effective without the hub and outer wheel. Can the outer wheel roll down hill alone? Yes but when it hits a rock (Anti Tank Mine) or IED its gonna be stopped either demolished or damaged. Independently all MOS can work by themselves but the infantry is designed to Fight and Win Wars. All other Jobs the Army offers are there to Support the Infantry!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 4 at 2018 2:01 PM

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Response by SGT Jim Giffin made Jul 5 at 2018 1:36 PM

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Fiddlers Green is the big difference. Look it up.

Response by SSG Chris Furney made Jul 13 at 2018 6:40 PM

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11b's don't eat their horses.

Response by SSgt Max Gonzales made Jul 15 at 2018 5:09 PM

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All I did was walk a perimeter with a dog. Y'all have strange codes,dogs just wanted to investigate or chew up things or people. AF,had at that time, not so much time to name each operation.

Response by SPC Christopher Murano made Jul 15 at 2018 7:02 PM

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Hey People. Some of the comments are getting close to the line. Teasing between 11Bs and POGs is one thing, but let's remember, we're ALL on the same team. No matter what branch of the military we belong to, we all took a similar oath that put us in harm's way.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Jul 15 at 2018 9:02 PM

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PV2 J M Hey Jordan, high school is over. What service did you enlist in ?

Response by SFC Gary Stanfill made Jul 17 at 2018 11:12 PM

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All I can say SIGNAL CORPS all the way....

Response by SPC Franklin McKown made Jul 19 at 2018 12:10 AM

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The real problem is a SCOUT must use stealth as a tool for recon.NOT many folks follow or SEE what we do,as a course of the job...the ONLY infantry who know are mortars or we sick them on others as we hunt more.OR as in Desert Storm WE are the raiding armor ...no infantry around but Mortars and Zoomie FACs.GSR radar and artillery FOs ride behind and medics were will us all.the real and elite in prior deployment.
If one MUST measure who's the best warrior based on modern combat,the one still walking is ALWAYS a clue. US Military is a combined arms force,some fight some don't,LUCK of the draw,really.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2018 12:37 PM

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Google it.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2018 10:26 AM

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Theres already like 5 other discussions exactly like this. Someone asks 11b or 19d and then a lot of ignorance, assumptions, and incredibly subjective posts that are little more than " infantry is better" which truly brings nothing to a discussion.

Response by SFC Bob Chapman DEng made Dec 21 at 2018 4:00 PM

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19D are better looking.and much smarter.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2018 12:05 PM

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Overlooking all the bravado and adolescent rivalry between the branches; 19D's are the Eyes and Ears the a BN cannot function with out, they are not merely "observers" the Delta has the ability to engage enemy forces with massive indirect fires. Being 1/10 the size of an Infantry BN they rely on stealth to reach thier objectives.

By design if the 19D is the Eyes and the Ears; the 11B is the Sword. There mission is to take and hold ground, overwhelming the enemy when and where they least expect it. How are they able to accomplish that? But using the information provided back to the BN S2, by the 19D.

There will always be rivalry, but like Step-brothers, they need each other to succeed.

Response by Matteo Serra made Feb 15 at 2019 7:22 PM

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Are you fuckin retarded

Response by SFC Franklin Orr made Aug 14 at 2020 6:18 AM

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Go light Infantry or airborne infantry. Have to clean and maintain less equipment. My Drill Sergeant partner was a Cav Scout. Great guy smart, Bradley Mastergunner. Used to run around yelling out Bradley Fighting Vehicle fire commands all the time. Probably more opportunities for promotion and schools in the Infantry. But I got out in 2003. So my advice is old.

Response by SPC Doug Donelson made Aug 24 at 2021 3:50 AM

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Same team, I never worked in my mos. I was a mechanic getting shot at. Y'all wanna rock paper scissors about who did what. Who's a real soldier ? The soldier next to you and the only one that matters.

Response by SPC Doug Donelson made Aug 24 at 2021 3:59 AM

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Don't blast on support people either, you wouldn't have another mag without them .Shame on you.