What is the military regulation on wearing the fleece jacket with civilians? I'm unable to find it. Is it authorized or not?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:23:58 -0400

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2020 4:25 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:25:37 -0400

Look in AR 670-1 and DA PAM 670-1. You can find these publications on the Army Publishing Directorate website. CTRL+F and type in fleece.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2020 5:45 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 17:45:22 -0400

I mean, you could google it....

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2020 10:39 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 22:39:19 -0400

So the problem with AR 670-1. It doesn't cover cold weather gear as it pertains to the ECWCS. All of that falls under a TM, as it is a "cold weather system." That's right. A TM! complete with a PMCS guide. Anyway AR 670-1 as well as DA PAM 670-1 will say this.
"Uniform items authorized for wear with civilian clothing by males are restricted to the gold cuff links, studs, tie bar, mourning band, footwear, socks, gloves, undergarments, black bow-tie, wool scarf, all-weather coat, fleece caps, and physical training uniforms."
So one would naturally believe that the fleece jacket isn't included in this therefor isn't allowed. But the fleece jacket has zero mention in the entire regulation. Because AR 670-1 does not govern ECWCS Gen III.
DA PAM 670-1 does mention ECWCS. So because the same quote about what can be work is in the DA PAM. I would say No, not authorized.
Things to note. AR 670-1 also has this little blurp.
"Commanders will not prescribe seasonal wear dates for uniform items, but may prescribe uniform(s) based on safety reasons (for example, for extreme cold or hot weather based on temperature)."
Commanders love to ignore that one and say "_____ is only authorized between 'insert month' and 'insert month'

Response by SSG George Holtje made Mar 13 at 2020 11:40 PM

SSG George Holtje — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:40:24 -0400

There should be one somewhere in 670-1. There is a reg regarding the lacing of boots. If you cannot find it, don’t wear it.
Personally, I never concerned myself with what can be worn with my civilian clothes because when I’m off duty, I don’t want to wear uniform parts.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2020 11:46 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 Mar 2020 11:46:04 -0400

AR 670-1
Paragraph 3-9(g) Uniform items authorized for wear with civilian clothing by males are restricted to the gold cuff links, studs, tie bar, mourning band, footwear, socks, gloves, undergarments, black bowtie, wool scarf, all-weather coat, fleece caps, and physical training uniforms.

The fleece jacket is not authorized with civilian clothing.

Response by SGT Christopher Hayden made Mar 14 at 2020 5:52 PM

SGT Christopher Hayden — Sat, 14 Mar 2020 17:52:45 -0400

You could always just buy a civilian fleece jacket and not have to worry about it.

Response by 1SG Charles Hunter made Mar 15 at 2020 6:47 PM

1SG Charles Hunter — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:47:45 -0400

If you're 100 miles from the flagpole, I'd guess there wouldn't be anyone around to tell you it's not allowed. Don't you own any NICE civvies?