What is the ONE thing EVERY young Officer must know?

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There's been quite a few discussions about how clueless young Lieutenants (and Ensigns) are when they hit the Operating Forces (and we often are). Here it is: your chance to publicly and permanently record the one topic you think is the most critical for us to know when we step in at your unit. With some luck, maybe those young officers will read it here and have the epiphany they need privately and everyone will be better off for it.

So hit it: let all the experience of the RP community be brought to bear: immediately after commissioning what's the ONE thing every O-1 must know ?

(Just so no one gets hurt feelings, lets say you're telling this guy here-but before his promotion and deployment in the photo-I cant find any pics from commissioning.)

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 3:28 PM

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Technically and Tactically competent in your specific job duties; learn as much as you can on the job!

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Jan 18 at 2015 3:33 PM

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Here's mine:

As you head to The Basic School and your follow-on MOS school, and even after you graduate you MUST study as hard as you can. If you have family you need to spend time with them and you need a few moments for yourself now and again, and you have to sleep. But don't waste a second, because you are now spending borrowed time. Don't go out boozing and being stupid, don't waste time doing things you don't need to do. There are 42 Marines out there in a platoon somewhere waiting for you to show up. And you're showing up without experience. All you have to offer is knowledge. That knowledge is going to get combined with the experience of your NCOs and will hopefully make wisdom. But it is incumbent on you to glean every fact, figure, training technique, procedure and doctrine from the trove of information available to you. Every weekend when not in the field or PTing or running errands be reading or studying. This time is not yours, it is your Marines'. Until your first taste of combat you are living on borrowed time. Heaven forbid the Marines in combat with you on that day have to pay that debt for you.

Because you will carry that for the rest of your life.

So arm yourself now, reduce the odds of that even happening, and if it does, know that you did everything you could to prepare before the moment arrived.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Jan 18 at 2015 3:56 PM

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As I think of some experienced folk I'm especially interested in hearing from I'll add them here:

SSgt Travis Grime (Maybe he'll re-activate)
Sgt Matthew Johnson (About to face this with his buddies soon-but with his own experience already)

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 4:17 PM

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I'll piggyback on that Capt Richard I P.. Learn everything you can, whenever you can, yes. But don't go into your unit with the mentality that you must know everything beforehand. Your Soldiers know that you're new. Surprise them with your knowledge, but do not couple it with arrogance.

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 4:22 PM

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Find that NCO that matches your leadership style and personality and just listen. As an officer you will have plenty of time to lead and make your own descisions. The first few years are vital and will mold the leader that you wilk become. There are far too poor or mediocar NCO's and officer. Mentorship has fallon off quite a bit, but there are still great leaders and mentors out there. Seek them out and just listen......Also when I say NCO as your mentor I speek from an Air Force prespective since it a senior NCO's duty to mentor a mold company grade officers....just my 2 cents for what its worth

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 4:29 PM

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Mission first people always, remember you will get no where without good people. Trust and listen to your experienced NCO's. Always listen, except criticism and learn from mistakes. You will be a better leader for it.

Response by Maj Walter Kilar made Jan 18 at 2015 4:52 PM

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Not every officer has access to NCOs for mentorship, so I will modify this so it applies to all officers.

1. Find an experienced mentor and learn everything you can. The military is culture fueled by experience--the experience gained in a 20-year career, two centuries of American warfare, and eons of human warfare. Corollaries: Do not be afraid to make mistakes early in your career. Do not forget to share your lessons learned with others. If you cannot find a mentor, you are not looking hard enough. Do not be afraid to get dirty from time to time. Know when it is time to stay back and let the experts get dirty.

2. Remember that you are here to lead, and that you cannot learn to lead through academics alone. You will learn to lead by doing it. In the field. Get away from the desk and go test your leadership skills. Challenge your superior officers (tactfully), so they will help you become better leaders. Challenge your subordinates (if you have any), so they will keep you accountable for good leadership. Challenge yourself in absence of superiors or subordinates doing so. Corollaries: If your job is easy, then you are not trying hard enough. Take classes when you can. Expand your horizons.

3. Remember your peers. As an officer, your direct peers are your fellow officers that you are competing against for promotion, but all of us enlisted and officer, past and present are your brothers in arms. We are all your peers. Corollaries: You are never off duty. Learn from history, because many have treaded where you think you are blazing a new trail. Treat enlisted and commissioned subordinates well, because you may learn more from subordinates as a lieutenant.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 5:18 PM

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Don't be afraid to make a decision, and its ok to make a mistake. A Platoon Sergeant only looks good because he has failed numerous times. FACT!

Response by PO2 Katie Benson made Jan 18 at 2015 5:46 PM

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Be nice to the enlisted folks, their the backbone of the service!

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Jan 18 at 2015 6:12 PM

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Too many one things, so I guess I will settle with this one.........Before giving an order remember you are not the one that carries it out, consider the ones who see that the mission is accomplished in the quickest and best way and bare that responsibility. Experience is the best teacher.

Response by CMDCM Gene Treants made Jan 18 at 2015 6:22 PM

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For Naval Officers, when you report to your first Command you will be put in charge of people who KNOW their jobs and are experts at doing their jobs. This goes for Electronics Technicians, Gunners Mates, Snipes, Admin Personnel, and everyone else; YOU are not the expert. If you are on a ship (submarine included), your job is to get to get Warfare Qualified. Trust your LPO/Leading Chief to get the work done, he/she will find you if needed.

Your Chief will take care of you and make sure you qualify, if you trust the Chief. You are here to learn not to teach for the first part of your tour.

Response by CPL Rick Stasny made Jan 18 at 2015 6:32 PM

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To remember that it is not about you anymore. It is about them. Take the time daily to show your subordinates that they matter and have value. Also, do what is right, not what is popular.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 7:31 PM

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You'll be so good at signing for things, you'll think buying a car or house is child's play.

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Jan 18 at 2015 7:42 PM

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Don't be afraid to make a decision. Just don't be too hasty (if possible), if it is right and sound, awesome. If it turns out to be wrong, do not be afraid to own it. Everyone understands that command is a lonely post, and that you will have to sometimes make unpopular decisions. They (decisions) do not always have to be explained-sometimes there is time, sometimes not-when there is time, the troops will appreciate the insight.

Lead by example. Nothing worse than hypocrisy

Your troops are amazing, and will do amazing things for you when they believe that you are there for them. Keep their faith. Treat them with the respect they deserve and watch what happens.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 7:49 PM

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Know what is truly important to your Soldiers. Some new 2LT's care a lot about if their soldiers or PSG like them. It does not matter if your Soldiers like you, the only real question is have you made them more proficient as warfighters. One 1SG put it to me, "Friendership is not Leadership" balance your orders against the common sense of your NCO's, there are times when you are going to need to do something your Platoon Sergeant doesn't think is right for the platoon - but you know must be done.

These were the most challenging times as a junior 2LT, having to make a decision that was opposite what a Senior NCO wanted to do. Fail to do something in order to maintain a relationship with an NCO and you will bear the consequences. NCO's have been at this long enough, they know if you make a decision and applied logic and empathy towards the Soldier they will forgive short-term heartache - but don't lose any sleep if they don't. Your position is to lead soldiers, not cradle them. Your soldiers will come to respect you if they work hard and more importantly, get results and not if you are popular and easy on them.

Know what is truly important to the Commander. Your Commander might be the shouting, unforgiving and vulgar type - you owe it to him to toe the line when you mess up and develop his vision for the Company. He can be the biggest a*hole you've ever met, you also need to stand up to him and give recommendations for alternate COA's if you think the current one is no good. Own the decision he makes. You don't want your NCO's to say "LT wants us to load the truck up...", "LT says we have to do this right now..." so don't be the "Commander says we will have to do...." guy.

Your ability as a 2LT to make recommendations to your commander, instead of being a yes man, will pay dividends when you are a 1LT as an XO or on a Staff.

Response by Cpl Dennis F. made Jan 18 at 2015 8:03 PM

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When it is time to act, do so quickly and decisively. Even if it is the wrong action, you have momentum and can adjust on the fly. Trust in your NCOs and never, never let them see you sweat. Speaking of sweat, don't sweat the small shit.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 8:20 PM

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I'll throw this out there, since it hasn't been said yet (at least that I saw reading through the comments) Know your troops. Unfortunately, not every NCO is squared away. Learn who to trust and who not to trust. Think for yourself, while leaning on those you trust.

Response by SPC(P) Jay Heenan made Jan 18 at 2015 8:44 PM

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Don't be afraid to bond with your Soldiers. Don't attach assumed levels of intelligence to the rank they have. Be available to listen. Respect, even though respect is automatically given to officers, it does not hurt to give respect to your Soldiers as well.

Response by MSgt Timothy Johnson made Jan 18 at 2015 8:55 PM

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Listen more, talk less. Search out a trust worthy NCO that you are most compatible with. Build a rappor and absorb the experience that NCO has to offer. Personally I would then expect the 0-1/0-2 to remold that knowledge into their own leadership style. I believe a professional hard-ass, when appropriate, will earn more respect than a book- worm.

Response by PO2 Stephen Brinkley (Scott) made Jan 19 at 2015 12:15 AM

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First of all koodos for asking this question. The first thing I would recommend to you is listen to your senior E-5's and E-6's that are in leadership roles. We run everything and can guide you to make proper decisions. Learn everything that could be learned before trying to be a leader. Start out small and count on who guides you. Last don't ever turn your back on your people

Response by PO1 Russell Henson made Jan 19 at 2015 12:48 AM

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The first name of each troop member serving under him

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 1:15 AM

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The same advice my father gave me - "If you treat them like grown ups, they will act like grown ups."

I had some initial catastrophic failures when I came in with this philosophy to a unit that had been micromanaged like a kindergarten class to the point of raising their hands to go "potty" but once they realized I respected them as adults, productivity, innovation and creativity soared.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 3:04 AM

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It's not that they're 'clueless' in my opinion. It's that most seem to come into their first unit with a chip on their shoulder, try to change the army in their first week and disregard the counsel of their seasoned NCO's (SSG/SFC).

Any NCO worth his/her weight in salt realizes the officers are in charge and we prosecute the mission. But when young officers repeatedly fail to ask for advice from those of us who have been in longer than six or seven years, then blame the NCO's when the mission fails leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

Sir, my advice would be; take the chip off your shoulder, put it in your desk drawer. Ask for advice and take in what your SSG's/SFC's are telling you. Whatever path you decide to take is your call. But don't blow off the NCO's and then blame them when the mission fails.

Always remember, take care of your Soldiers in garrison and they'll take care of you down range.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 3:40 AM

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I've posted this before, but I think this is extremely relevant.
http://rhinoden.rangerup.com/nicks-rules-on-leadership/
Especially the point "you are not the smartest guy in the platoon".
I have seen quite a few officers who knew the regulations to the 'T' but did not have a lick of common sense. I know I'm just a stupid E-4, but even when I was an E-3 I still had more common sense than my PL. We had a (literally, not figuratively) 45 minute mounted mission [to include staging and SP process(we drove just out the gate, drove a block, then turned around and headed back)] in which rather than re-fuel the truck (which had used so small of an amount of fuel it was not noticeable on the fuel gauge) I just parked it, I was screamed at by a 1st LT for taking initiative and not doing something by the regs rather using my own common sense.
My biggest thing is if someone does something via their own sound reasoning, don't get mad at them for it. If someone made a bad decision but their mental process was at least somewhat sound then don't get pissed. It is far easier and will create far more good will to say "hey, you were thinking right, but here is where you went wrong" than to get mad and explode on someone.

Here is my big thing. First off listen to your platoon sergeant. It is honestly his platoon and you are just leasing it. Second of all, figure out who your senior and experienced E-4s are. You may be told that these individuals are the biggest shitheads in the unit, but I know from personal experience that some people (especially lower enlisted) get bad mouthed by senior NCOs for personal reasons. One of the hardest workers and most proficient guys I've ever known in the infantry got badmouthed because his squad leader was a fat POS and was resentful that his guys could score over a 300 on their PT test. I'm not saying discount everything that your senior NCOs say about these guys, but don't take their word as truth necessarily. As non-party line as it may seem, not all NCOs follow the creed of the NCO, and not all lower enlisted really want to deal with the army BS. Some NCOs are shitty and some (honestly, most) lower enlisted don't give a flying fuck about the army. Most lower enlisted care about having enough money to take care of their family, and not being bugged more than necessary by NCOs. If you want to know what a standard lower enlisted person thinks about a certain action then ask me in private, but suffice to say it probably ends up with "leave me alone".

Nick’s Rules on Leadership

This is a tough one for us to write, because in some ways it starts with the position that we are qualified to teach leadership. I mean you can go to the store and literally buy hundreds of books on the topic of leadership from real war heroes that should be dead a hundred times over, general officers or sergeants major who have a lifetime of service to the nation, or even business leaders, coaches, or politicians who have made a real...

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 10:51 AM

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Everything in life is a learning experience. From going to school to become an officer to reporting to your first unit. Take those events as such. Learn all you can from the experience of your NCO's. The first time you imply that you are smarter than they are and things will be done your way or the highway, it taints the NCO/officer relationship. Learn from them and put that experience to good use.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 11:15 AM

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Consider all recommendations from your PSG, but make your own decisions quickly and most importantly, always remain confident with your decisions!

Response by SFC Michael Jackson, MBA made Jan 19 at 2015 11:27 AM

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that he need mentorship and can't go it alone

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Jan 19 at 2015 12:05 PM

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In my opinion, let your NCOs groom you and show you the ropes, when it comes to training. Leadership is a organizational tool that must implement unit oriented goals. " Like the old saying goes, a hardheaded makes a soft heart." Train to lead, lead to train" FM 6-22, Army Leadership is always a good start point"
https://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm6-22.pdf

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 12:42 PM

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Listen and take heed to what your enlisted people tell you. just because you have a college degree, doesnt mean you know everything about everything. listen to the people who operate the equipment you are placed in charge of, might save your career or life one day.

Response by SGT Richard H. made Jan 19 at 2015 4:26 PM

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We talk about this one a lot: Listen to your NCOs (especially senior ones). Absolutely do that, but also, seek out an officer that came before you and get yourself mentored by him. He can very likely help you avoid a whole bunch of pitfalls....and probably some of those will be things that an NCO can't (or even shouldn't) help you with.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 5:36 PM

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Find a good NCO or SNCO and learn from THEM, especially as a O1 or O2. There will be plenty of time to learn the politics of being a FGO, but at the CGO level they need to learn to read and understand their enlisted men and women. Those are your workers, those are your backbone, and those are the ones that will tell you how good of an officer you are, or aren't.

Response by 1SG Cameron M. Wesson made Jan 19 at 2015 6:13 PM

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My 2 cents.... I have had 5 PLs, 3 COs, and a number of OIC since serving as a NCO over 19 years of a 22 year career. I still share this with my charges as a DA Civ.

This is my one.

Life ain't fair and don't complain! Don't complain to your boss... He already knows! Don't complain where the soldiers hear you! It destroys morale and it is contagious... Only one person you ever complain too.... That's you SNCO! That what's there here for... And to provide prospective to your challenges... As they have already been there in most cases... and share your frustration...

Response by MAJ Jim Woods made Jan 19 at 2015 8:22 PM

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Use the 80/20 rule...... listen to those around you 80% of the time - talk only 20% of the time and run it by your Sr. NCO before showing how much you don't know.

Response by Sgt Branden W. made Jan 19 at 2015 8:42 PM

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In my opinion, and of course, with the utmost respect, the "Butterbars" that showed up to my Marine Corps infantry company were typically pretty arrogant. I understand there is a sense of "I'm an officer, so you better salute and call me Sir," however, there is also a great wealth of knowledge in that unit that would best serve you if you simply called a meeting and listened to some of the NCOs. Listen. Listen to the Cpl running his own squad, what needs fixing? Who's got an idea that would benefit the men?
Listen to the Sgt with an entire mortar section. What's broken? What's something that has needed to be accomplished, and for some reason hasn't been accomplished?

Use that new Gold Bar on your collar to get something done or at least show that you tried. This is how you garner the respect and loyalty of a platoon.

Earn that respect sir, even though you're entitled to it.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 8:58 PM

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Be humble. Not just for LTs. It works well for all ranks.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 9:01 PM

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Seek advise from your peers, seniors and NCOs, but make your own decision and make a decision. There is even benefit from making wrong decisions (as long as no one is hurt). Don't be affraid to try new things and learn from what works well and doesn't.....but above all, when you make your decisions, if you can look yourself in the mirror at the end of the day and you have your Marines, Soliders, Sailors, and Airmen's best interest at heart, you will be fine!

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Jan 19 at 2015 10:37 PM

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What he/she really knows and doesn't know, and don't be afraid to ask for advice or assistance.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Jan 19 at 2015 10:56 PM

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Know and Master the Basics (TLPs, OPORDS, PCIs), and Live Army Values (Yes that is technically) two things.

Response by SPC James Mcneil made Jan 20 at 2015 10:10 AM

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I forget where I first heard this, but this quote fits for me. "The beginning of wisdom is when you acknowledge that you don't know it all because then you finally become teachable."

Response by SFC(P) Tobias M. made Jan 20 at 2015 1:12 PM

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I have to use two different things.

First for officers that were NCO's prior. You are no longer an NCO and you need to let NCO's conduct business the way we have for years now and not step in.

Second for officers that were not enlisted prior. Your PLT SGT has been here for some time now and knows the ropes. Let him train you to be the PL, XO, CO that you will be one day. Without this training you will not earn the respect as a person from your troops. They will all respect your rank but none of them will respect you as a person if you do not learn from your PLT SGT.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 20 at 2015 1:19 PM

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Find a mentor and pick their brain for every piece of knowledge you can get. Trust your NCOs to do their job.

Response by MAJ Sitz Randy made Jan 20 at 2015 1:40 PM

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That you don't know what you don't know yet...listen to your peers and to your senior NCOs.

Response by CPO Bernie Bellew made Jan 20 at 2015 2:45 PM

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From what I have seen....very quickly learn the political ropes at your command. Only then will you acquire the knowledge to advance.

Response by MAJ James Hastings made Jan 20 at 2015 4:55 PM

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I would tell him to seriously reconsider his career choices before its too late! (Humor intended) :0)

Response by PO2 Kevin LaCroix made Jan 20 at 2015 8:42 PM

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Listen, listen, listen. You may be an officer, but you very likely do not know what you do not know. Ask questions, leave the ego at home, lead by example, don't let your shit become their shit. If your enlisted trust you, they will follow you through hell.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 20 at 2015 9:08 PM

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I ask this of every leader at every level...."Who do you work for?" The initial response that I get to this single question helps me develop the plan for that subordinate's development.

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Jan 20 at 2015 9:29 PM

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Not to piss off your NCO's, they will make or break you.

Response by SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S. made Jan 20 at 2015 9:46 PM

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I'd say it's to be extremely mindful of how important their words, actions, and deeds are when they report to their initial assignment. Everyone is watching and evaluating, not just the CO.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Jan 20 at 2015 10:45 PM

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The one thing? To make sure you wash your hands after going potty. You are a big boy/girl and mommy is not there.

If I have only one thing I have to go back to the basics?

Response by SSG Corry Struve made Jan 20 at 2015 11:25 PM

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Know and understand the different job skills and levels around you.

Response by LTC David S. Chang, ChFC®, CLU® made Jan 20 at 2015 11:28 PM

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Be humble yet confident. Learn as much as you can, and treat everyone you meet with respect. If possible, increase your social intelligence, which is the ability to manage ourselves & our relationships effectively. This includes Self-Awareness, Self-Management, Social Awareness and Social Skill.

Leadership is about people, and that is what you learning!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2015 5:56 AM

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That Jr. Officers to Joint Chiefs never rank their "DADs". see? he concurs.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2015 8:09 AM

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1. Timing is everything
2. Better lucky than good
3. There is no justice

No one cares as much about your career as you...so you will benefit greatly by understanding the personnel system to the maximum extent possible.

In the Air Force, at least, your job performance is important to accomplishing the mission, but your vounteerism and performance on outside projects is what will get you noticed by leadership. Leadership will take a competent, but mediocre, performer with volunteer time, advanced education, and outside projects over the very best performer in the career field with nothing going on outside the squadron. Prioritize appropriately.

PT is paramount. Nothing will sink your career like a failed PT test. It's barely a step above a DUI in terms of career progression.

Take charge of your people. The key to taking charge of your people, however, is to understand your boss's intent. That means talking to the boss. Figure out what the boss has set as his priorities, then figure out how to put your people to work on it.

Two-fold advice - don't be afraid to tell the boss "this is a dumb idea" behind closed doors (staff meetings, planning meetings, etc). Don't treat your own people with disdain when they tell you "boss, this is a dumb idea". I'll throw in the caution for free - do this behind closed doors, in an appropriate setting. Do NOT tell the boss something is a dumb idea in front of the entire unit. Another free follow-up - be prepared to tell the boss WHY it is a dumb idea, and what you should do instead.

Try to get yourself nominated for awards. I know a lot of people kind of treat the awards process with disdain...and I get it. However, getting nominated (win or lose) gets your name, and your accomplishments, in front of the boss on a regular basis. The boss gets to see the list of things you are doing for the unit. That helps when it comes time to decide who gets the special project, the good opportunity, the higher strat. It isn't the end-all be-all...but getting your accomplishments in front of the boss can lay the groundwork for the future.

Finally, don't be afraid to make mistakes. If it won't get you or your boss arrested, then it can be debriefed. Even a bad decision is better than no decision. Try to minimize the times you say "I'll check with the boss" in response to a choice. At the very least, make a choice before you go to the boss, so you aren't asking WHAT to do, but for permission to execute YOUR course of action. That isn't to say you can't seek advice...just don't consistently defer your decisions to the next level up your chain.

Response by LCDR Jamie Galus made Jan 21 at 2015 11:41 AM

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Lots of good gouge in this discussion and I don't want to be redundant.

One thing that I would like to recommend that I haven't seen listed, would to be establish a good relationship with your unit's Senior Enlisted Advisor. With any matters relating to enlisted folks: pay; uniforms; orders; re-enlistments...the list goes on and on the SEA is usually the SME.

Additionally, the SEA is the right person to go and see if you are not getting the proper assistance from your LCPO/SNCOIC/NCOIC, of coarse while keeping your supervisor in the loop. We are promoting folks very fast and a new CPO or SSgt may not have the experience required to properly train and mentor a JO. This is something that the SEA can normally adjust.

Personally, on my last tour I spent just as much time in the CMC's Office as I did in the XO's cabin seeking advice.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2015 11:47 AM

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LISTEN TO YOUR PLATOON SERGEANT!!!!!

Response by SFC Nikhil Kumra made Jan 21 at 2015 12:15 PM

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NEVER START A SENTENCE WITH "Back in ROTC..." to an E-7.

Response by SSG Buddy Kemper made Jan 21 at 2015 12:41 PM

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Best advice I ever heard from an Officer came from his dad. This guy was a LtCol when he told me the story. He said as a new Lieutenant and had just graduated college, his dad, an old retired Master Sergeant gave him some advise on how to succeed in his first few years of service. When he was headed out to his first assignment his dad told him to 'find a good E-7, get in his hip pocket and don't come out till your an 0-3'. I loved hearing that. Blessings to all you good Officers out there. I've been blessed by your leadership and friendship thru the years.

Response by SFC Josh Jackson made Jan 21 at 2015 3:04 PM

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This, too, shall pass. I chant that to myself on bad days.

J/K. The real advice I would give is to not confuse rank with competence. Look for the guru, the subject matter expert, the unit dinosaur. Find him/her and learn all you can from them. The most practical knowledge comes from the people upon whom everyone else relies.

Response by CPT David Bernheim made Jan 21 at 2015 3:13 PM

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Capt Richard I P. – This is an outstanding topic. Nearly impossible to list one singular essential. Here is my short list:
1 – Read, learn, know your job. Ask questions of your commander and your senior NCOs so you learn/know your lane and can eliminate roadblocks for your NCOs.
2 – Your soldiers, Marines, Airmen, Seamen will do what you INSPECT not what you EXPECT.
3 – No Excuse Leadership and Duffer’s Drift are two essential and easy reads to help you gain perspective.
4 – Learning academics is fine. You MUST seek opportunities to lead and do. Do not be afraid to make mistakes. Just don’t make the same mistake twice.
5 – Upon arrival, visit ALL your soldiers where they live. (Ask your senior NCO to join you.) Do it after the duty day or during a working lunch. You should know any challenges they are facing (substandard housing, challenges at the home front) by a visit. (I discovered more than one crappy landlord taking advantage of my soldiers and took action to get their home sprayed for pests, or other problems they did not know how to solve.)
6 – Build your working knowledge by learning tasks from your NCOs when not in front of your soldiers. (How can you gauge levels of excellence on soldier tasks if you have not done them yourself?) Example - Learn to set Headspace and Timing from your book, do it, then have one of your NCOs assess you. You can then spot-check your soldiers. Book knowledge is not enough.
7 – Eat last. Ensure all of your soldiers are fed, even the ones at the OP.
8 – Set the example in ALL you do. Wear your uniform correctly, be early for all formations, and say “I” instead of “The Commander says” even if it is something you are not fond of. “Saying the Commander says” is not only disloyal but underscores your own weakness. Your soldiers are watching your every move.

More than my two cents.

Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Jan 21 at 2015 3:16 PM

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Trust and respect your SNCOs, and earn their trust and respect by knowing your job and placing your unit above yourself.

Response by CPT Zachary Brooks made Jan 21 at 2015 3:24 PM

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Respect and trust your NCOs. They have been doing your job without you and can continue to do it without you if they need to. They are a wealth of knowledge and experience and are there to ensure you succeed.

Response by 1SG Jason Fitzpatrick made Jan 21 at 2015 3:59 PM

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Every Soldier has an NCO except for one, The Command Sergeant Major of the Army. From the Private to the General we all have an NCO. Lieutenants get Platoon Sergeants, Commanders get First Sergeants, Battalion Commanders and above get Command Sergeants Major. WE are members of the time honored corps which is known as "The Backbone of the Army." Find your Sergeant Lieutenant. More than likely, your commander will have your Sergeant standing there when you report in. Remember, you are in "Command", but that Sergeant is in control and runs the organization. Listen to the Sergeant, learn, ask questions and seek their counsel. We are duty bound to follow your orders, but you would be a damn fool if you think that that Platoon Sergeant doesn't know how to do the job...they just got done training the last lieutenant that you replaced who just made Captain and is taking command of a company...

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2015 4:20 PM

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Know there is valuable leadership, experience, and wisdom in the SNCO and Warrant Officer ranks, but don't blindly follow their advice simply because they are SNCOs or WOs/CWOs. Rank doesn't always come from competence; it can also come from longevity. Find the *good* ones (either by observation or recommendation from peers) and seek out their advice.

Give your Marines/Sailors/Soldiers/Airmen a detailed billet description detailing your expectations for them, counsel them often on whether or not they are meeting your expectations, give them honest evals, and review those evals with them. One of your jobs is to make those individuals better military members, citizens, leaders, and people!

I didn't take away a whole lot of valuable info from The Basic School, but I dug the "Horizontal Themes" (I'll share for the benefit of the non-Marines):

An officer is:
- Man or woman of exemplary character
- Dedicating to leading Marines 24/7
- Able to decide, communicate, and react
- A warfighter
- Mentally and physically tough

Follow those and you'll go far!

Response by PO1 Michael Fullmer made Jan 21 at 2015 8:07 PM

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Trust in his senior enlisted personnel who have been around the block a few times. If he/she is smart and listens, they will help make him/her a better leader. In my humble opinion.

Response by SGT Steven Ransbottom made Jan 21 at 2015 8:42 PM

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God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason, listen to and learn from your Sr. NCO's, they have a lot to share, if you are wise enough to absorb what they have to share.

Response by TSgt David Holman made Jan 21 at 2015 11:04 PM

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Never break the back of those under you. Remember that the best leaders are followers first!

Response by MSgt Rob Weston made Jan 21 at 2015 11:44 PM

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Three things: your young enlisted may be your age peers, but not your professional peers. It is ok to be friendly (no need to be an Ahole until it is time to be) but you cannot be their friend. Your are good to be friends with those trusted SNCOs, they will guide and mentor you, but a solid rapport and friendship helps (they know when it is ok to relax and when it is time to be serious). You will go through issues as all young people do, they can help (been there). I still have some good officers I am still good friends with. They also ensured I was well marinated at my retirement party.

Second, know your folks. Don't need to get knee deep in their personal lives, but know who has spouses and kids, hobbies, etc. You may be able to let them off to get to a birthday party or anniversary. Kindness is not weakness, but don't get walked on.

Lastly, take time for yourself. Always set time aside to tend to your own needs.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 22 at 2015 1:28 AM

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You don't matter in the grand scheme of things. It is about the men and the mission.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Jan 22 at 2015 8:28 AM

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I have read all the comments and agree with most of them.

The ONE thing that I think every young officer should know is that he/she is a "young officer" and, therefore, has a lot to learn and experience.

Simply pinning on that bar or epaulet does not make you automatically correct. Learn from your peers, superiors and subordinates. Ask questions, be attentive and approachable, take prudent risks, and strive to be the best you can be in any endeavor. Take care of your soldiers and they will take care of you.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Jan 22 at 2015 12:36 PM

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1) Try to be brief by the person you are replacing
2) Have a meeting with your NCO's for input and support
3) Know what is working in your Platoon, and what isn't working
4) Learn your unit mission and your soldiers background
5) When you have meetings with the Senior Leadership in your Platoon get them to understand when he/she presents problems to you have a solution for the problem just don't dump it in your lap

Response by SGT Andre Saunders made Jan 22 at 2015 4:42 PM

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This may have already been said but you definitely need to listen to your NCOs. Granted we're not perfect but, we've been to a few dances so we have a good idea of what could be in store.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2015 12:03 AM

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...that they are now professionals and they need to commit personal time to learning about their profession, understanding the profession and becoming as good as they can be in their profession.

These young great Americans spent years in college working very hard to earn degrees and their commissions, but too often many enter the service and want to work E1 hours. Learn from peers, listen (of course) to your NCOs and WANT to be better.

Knowing from day one that the education, learning and development is just beginning will put you on a path for greater success. You are not responsible for yourself anymore -- many others are required to follow you and you owe it to them to be the best you can be as a professional.

Response by SMSgt Todd Wagendorf made Jan 25 at 2015 6:26 PM

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Listen to your NCO's, we run the military. That's a fact!

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2015 7:33 PM

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Be confident, set the example, and lead.

- Be confident: Senior NCOs and Officers are your counsel. You will not always know the solution, so gather the brainpower around you, gather information, and make a decision. Arrogance is not an attractive trait. Walk with pride and a big dose of humility.
- Set the example: Demonstrate courage and wisdom above your years by listening and making thoughtful decisions. Do not "react." And definitely do not jump to conclusions.
- Lead: From the front. Love your team. Give them the benefit of the doubt.

Response by SFC Vernon McNabb made Jan 25 at 2015 9:03 PM

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Their limitations.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2015 11:48 PM

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Good decisions come from experience. Experience comes from bad decisions.

Everyone is human, people make mistakes. Officers are expected to be leaders, not managers. To lead effectively, you have to be a good follower, as well. Take advantage of your time as a 2LT to make mistakes that can be forgiven for being a 2LT, make decisions. They won't all be correct, but learn from them. A leader that can't make a decision is not an effective leader.

When you want the honest opinion from everyone in a room, ask the lowest ranking individual in the room FIRST. No private is going to give you his honest opinion if his SSG has just said something he/she doesn't agree with. He'll just echo what the SSG said.

Military bearing and professionalism will get you more respect with your troops then trying to fit in with them.

Read. A lot. Military books. Find your SgtMaj reading list.

Praise in public, discipline in private.

That's more than one, but they're relevant.

Response by Sgt Michael Johnson made Jan 26 at 2015 7:30 AM

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In '77 we had a 2dLt in Okinawa. Asked him, "what's the difference between a 2dLt and a PFC?" He cried, Boo hoo, you guys don't respect me. NEVER CRY in front of your men! Never fall out in front of your men. If you can't be exemplary get a different job.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2015 10:52 AM

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How to fold one after writing to the family. Hit's below the belt doesn't it? Good, it should.

Response by CW5 Randy Kirgiss made Jan 26 at 2015 12:40 PM

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When to open their mouth and when to listen - regardless of the rank. I had to learn that the hard way a few times. Knowledge and good ideas come in many different packages.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2015 8:23 PM

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I would say humility. Knowing when the time to listen is just as important as the time to speak. Show your people that you put their needs before your own. That by itself speaks volumes and builds morale and true respect. I once was told a story about a Lieutenant in Vietnam that asked his Sergeant First Class how he know that his men respected him. The Sergeant First Class replied," If you ever get held down in a firefight with the enemy and your men come back for you, you know you've got their respect."

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jan 26 at 2015 8:33 PM

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Every shavetail needs to be told that it's okay to ask for guidance. And woe to superior officers who misconstrue that question as a sign of weakness or incompetence

Response by CPT Steve Fortenberry made Jan 27 at 2015 2:48 PM

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Take care of your men. Keep them informed and listen to them, especially if they have experience you haven't. You consider their ideas and suggestions, but never forget you're the one who makes the decision. Think outside the box, and don't be afraid to make mistakes. Just try to not make them BIG ones! ;-)

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Jan 28 at 2015 7:57 PM

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How to run interference for your guys.

Tasks are constantly coming in from "up top." Whether it is the Company Commander, BN Commander etc. You only have so many men, so much time, and they only have so much patience.

As an example, as an NCO, I would constantly be approached by officers (looking to task me) would say:

"What are you working on?"

The appropriate response of course is "Sir, what do you need done?" as opposed to telling them what is actually going on. This allowed me to assess the situation and adjust tasks (and personnel) accordingly.

Long story short, the newest task isn't always the most important, and sometimes we as leaders just act as buffers so that the troops can get real work done.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2015 9:09 PM

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Trust your NCOs.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Jan 29 at 2015 10:47 AM

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Part of every transition of power, (ie... Change of Command, Change of Responsibility) involves a period of observation where no changes are made. During that observation period share your observations with your PLT SGT, Commander, and 1SG to gain their perspective before deciding on any changes. It will allow you to gain knowledge from their experience and allow you to possibly save face before making a big mistake.

Response by SGT Scott Elston made Jan 29 at 2015 11:14 AM

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The Sergeants probably know more than he does and will for 6 months to a year! A classroom seat and occassional romp in the woods isnt 43 days with no hot food, showers, and 40 hyped up infantrymen with the spirit of the bayonet in their eyes. Couple of those missions, he'll be fine or.... Not!

Response by 1LT John Kehoe made Jan 30 at 2015 5:41 PM

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find your platoon sgt.....tell him how much you'll appreciate all the advice, help & direction he can provide!!! Then "LISTEN"!!!!

Response by SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA made Jan 30 at 2015 5:59 PM

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Listen to your senior NCOs and stay humble until you at least reach Captain.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2015 7:16 PM

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understood

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2015 10:06 PM

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Every young officer needs to know; "you need to listen to your senior enlisted guys!" I see way to many young "know-it-all" officers that come straight out of OBC or ROTC in college and what-not. "Hey look, I'm the LT here, and you have to listen to me." This is probably the most irritating thing I've heard in my military career. Yes, granted I'm only a 10 year E-6, however, these guys/girls are just coming in and barely have a year or so in and they expect all those, whatever their ranks may be, under them to just bend a knee and bow to them. Ok, sorry rant over. So like i said at the start, LISTEN TO YOUR SENIOR NCOs. THEY'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE AND HAVE THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU NEED TO LEARN FROM. And for the love of God, LTs, ya'll don't know everything! That's the First Sergeant!

SSG Booze

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2015 10:23 PM

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Your job is to learn from the SNCOs and to be some junior enlisted can aspire to be. Be approachable and realize you're a role model not just a leader.

Response by 1stLt Joe Swatzell made Jan 31 at 2015 2:33 PM

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You MUST learn from your SNCO's. You may find some who have already dropped their pack, and are counting the days on the end of their career, but most truly care, and would love nothing more than to find a young officer receptive to the benefit of their experience.

Try to learn the challenges of the married folks and their spouses. I admit I gave little thought to it initially, but as we ramped up for deployment, I realized the spouses had issues I had never considered, and their sponsors had concerns their peers could not imagine.
Young and single is great, but it doesn't cover everybody!

Response by PO3 Devin Gallagher made Feb 1 at 2015 1:12 AM

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That the only difference between an officer and a enlisted is a sheet of paper. If your people do their job and do it well you should do everything you can to take care of them. But if they screw you over feed them to the wolves because they don't deserve you if you do your best to lead them. Remember they depend on you but you depend them to do what you tell them to get your job done. Be strait up with them and set your terms and they will either fall in line or fall out. Discipline and respect are everything never forget that.

Response by CW5 Jim Steddum made Feb 1 at 2015 9:32 AM

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Young officers have to learn their jobs, but most importantly, they need WHY they need to learn their jobs. When they learn why they are placed in office of increased responsibility and authority to develop junior leaders... it makes all the difference in how they develop themselves.

Response by 2d Lt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2015 12:15 AM

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As a prior enlisted, I can tell you whole heartedly that you must listen to your NCOs. Remember that even though you are an officer, chances are you're not an expert in that shop. If you go into a shop and have the mentality that "I'm an officer, do what I say" then you will fail and so will your shop. Your NCOs are a wealth of knowledge and you should get with them. You're E4-E6s are typically the experts doing the job. The SNCOs will guide and mentor you in leadership.

Response by MCPO Katrina Hutcherson made Feb 6 at 2015 9:18 AM

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Respect must be earned not demanded. Start by giving it to not only your superiors but also your subordinates. If you treat them as you would expect (not want - this is important because if they screw up they should expect to be reprimanded/counseled as warranted) to be treated everything will fall into place.

Have a rewarding and productive career !!

Response by SSG Sean Garcia made Feb 7 at 2015 3:55 PM

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Listen to your NCOs. We are more one on one with the troops and have definitely been in longer

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Feb 7 at 2015 6:51 PM

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To realize you are new in the military and to attach yourself to a good sergeant who will teach the important issues of leadership. Don't think you know everything, seeking good advice is not a weakness but rather a strength that will help you in the future.

Response by CPL Zachariah Chitwood made Feb 7 at 2015 6:59 PM

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The biggest thing that I always pressed on my new LT's was that they NEEDED to listen to their enlisted men. You may wear bars, but if you want a no bs assessment, go to your grunts that have deployed. They'll square ya' away.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2015 7:10 PM

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Listen to your NCO's... They may not have your college degree, (though a lot do have degrees, some higher than yours. They just choose to be enlisted) but they have a degree in life and experience.
Don't micro manage.
Don't mistake your higher rank for higher intelligence.
Don't let politics be your only concern.
Take care of your troops and they will take care of you.
Respect is earned... They will respect your rank, but if you want respect you have to earn it.
Respect your troops and they will respect you.
A good leader is not defined by the @55€£¥#$ above them, but by the men that follow them...
And always remember that if your NCO's are making fun of you, it means that they honestly respect you... Don't get butt hurt over an LT or officer joke... It is never meant as disrespect...

Response by CPL Brendan Hayes made Feb 7 at 2015 7:22 PM

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As an artillery FDC chief, I worked directly with a lot of 2Lts straight out of OBC. This threw a lot of them off. They expected an E6 and got a hard stripe E4. Typically, how they reacted to this piece of information said a lot about how they would be as leaders.

Best Lt. I had the privelege to serve with:
"OK, Chief. I know the schoolhouse stuff. If you show me how it works in the real world, I'll be sure your FDC is taken care of." ...and he did.

Worst Lt. I had to endure:
"That's not how you do it! Get out of there corporal! You have no idea what you are doing!"
(by a small mercy our BC/CO happened to be in the immediate AO and the Lt was forced to reevaluate the situation)
Bottom line is, the good Lts were humble and confident at the same time. They knew they had a lot to learn, and were willing to learn it. At the same time they knew that they were the officers and this meant not being bullied by their NCOs. As you head to your first assignment, keep in mind that the NCOs and troops can teach you a lot and you will be fine.

Response by Lt Col Christine Peyton made Feb 7 at 2015 9:07 PM

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Listen to your SNCOs and learn. At this point in time you should not be talking much, unless your asking questions.

Response by SSG Bill M made Feb 7 at 2015 11:06 PM

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Easiest lesson in the military- TRUST THE NCOs!

Response by SGT Kevin Gardner made Feb 8 at 2015 6:20 PM

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Oh man noooo, why oh why would you open this can of worms?

while on deployment my lieutenant and I were on top of a building when we started to take shots, quickly grabbing cover I looked up in time to see my lieutenant climbing up to stand on top of the sand bags that I was behind, I grabbed him and pulled him back down, with an accusing look on his face I said, "sir you are not Superman, let's use that degree you got, and use our brains." Smiling he said thanks.

If I could give young officers any advice I'd say stop looking for ways to become heroes. 9 times out of 10 you will only end up dead, instead think through the problem to find a better solution, and learn that you getting a warhead in your forehead does not inspire your troops.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 8 at 2015 6:35 PM

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* NCOs are a resource...in every step of the way. Use them to your benefit.
* Set the standard in PT.
* Stick to your word.
* Recognize those for their acheivements, a saying comes to mind; dance with the person that brought you.
* When you get a sideways glance on a COA, ask for a second or even their opinion, ask for options.
* Walk a mile in my shoes.
* Get to know your Marines, Soldiers, Airmen, and Sailors. Meet their families.
* Keep an open door policy, open.
* Network with other officers, and other platoons, cross-train your troops.
* Provide exteordinary training opportunities...Ie. our team was selected to go to Honduras for 2 weeks to train their troops in advance reconnaissance techniques.
* Make sure NCOES (development schools) are first and foremost in their career.
* Demonstrate compassion when a troop is having a personal family problem.
* Reward your best troops with HOOAH schools...which will benefit them in the long run.
* Provide extra training for your shit-birds, some troops do not learn like others, and need alternate options.
* Stick your neck on the line when your NCO'S are correct, and leadership is wrong.
* Recommend awards and follow through with them, because there are many hands in the pie.
* Provide opportunities to work with and train foreign troops...they will remember you forever.
* Make timeliness an a priority.
* Learn to communicate.
* You will invariably meet an NCO that butts head with you from the get-go, fix that best you can, if he isn't on board, tell him his options, including moving to another unit.
* Set up your unit for success.
* Stand out amongst your peers and take those that follow you with you when you can.
* Develop a niche in training, fill it, master it, get recognized. Ie. We would do 100 push-up at every formation, we were told that we may not be the smartest, but we will be the strongest.

Response by PO1 William Bargar made Feb 8 at 2015 6:40 PM

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"Never forget where you came from"! You maybe in position of authority, but you had others in one way or another "help" you get where you are! Always be humble and respect others!

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2015 9:34 AM

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Understand your subordinates. The best leaders I have ever had understood the strengths/weaknesses of each of their subordinates and paired them. Strong operator on watch with weak operator, Introvert paired to extrovert; they will learn about each other and develop more rapidly. Depending on the service/size of unit this may be something your senior enlisted handles, but you should directly or indirectly ensure this is done.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Feb 10 at 2015 10:45 AM

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Listen more than you speak

Response by CWO3 Bryan Luciani made Feb 18 at 2015 4:00 PM

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Great question! My number one tip is never make a decision that affects your troops prior to consulting with your senior-most enlisted person. No matter how convinced you are that you are correct, you may not understand the full consequences of your decision. A good 2nd Lt or Ensign develops a relationship with their senior enlisted that visually looks like the JO is in charge yet behind the scenes he/she is always open to feedback and preferably seeking input from the more experienced. It's that or be hung out to dry. Though the good senior enlisted would never allow that anyway.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2015 4:31 AM

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-You can, and will, learn something (how to be, know, do...or not) from everyone you work with and for.

When in charge, take charge! That said, I agree that new officers should listen to their SNCOs up until those SNCO lose that trust.
- As much as paperwork sucks, learn how to write effectively. Your Soldiers and NCOs will be depending (to a certain degree) on your ability to write awards and NCOERs.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 7 at 2015 3:01 PM

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Best advice I can give, trust and utilize your NCOs. Pick up common sense as quickly as possible.

Response by 1SG Cameron M. Wesson made Apr 7 at 2015 10:34 PM

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Team,

I was asked to report the below by Capt Richard I P. concerning teamwork as the most critical military skill that a person needs to possess.

I'm going to tweak the original response just a bit... as I feel some clarification/specificity may be need under this subject head of what every young officer (even young NCO) must know.

IMO... teamwork is the most critical military skilll a military member can have... let me explain my position.

Webster defines Teamwork as: the work done by people who work together as a team to do something... if you consider this at face value... this is the foundation of all we do in the Military.

Yes, there are several subordinate skills that you could argue make up teamwork... communication, sacrifice, sharing, language, listening, hard work, and others. While a few may be subsets of another... they still support the definition above. These skills, like many others, by themselves are very good; however, IMO the miss the mark in what we do everyday.

Much in the manner of being able to shoot a 50m target well. While that is a great thing, how about the targets at 100m, 150m, 200m, 250m, and even that 300m. Or... I can drive a M1/M2/M3 like no one ones business... great! You can't drive an engage targets... nor engage targets and drive. You get my point.

Most military elements function as teams and not as individuals. Additionally, all skills that you execute in the performance of a individual task support a collective task... which is a team task. This would further support a position that working as a member of a team, or teamwork, would be required... not to mention highly desired in all military formations. Thus teamwork is my desired skill of choice.

Furthermore, I would also submit for consideration the following:

- AR 600-100, Army Leadership states that leadership is the process of "influencing people by providing purpose, direction, and motivation, while operating to accomplish the mission and improve the organization." Notice the word people... not person... this is a team... not an individual.

- ADP 6-0 Mission Command provides that the three commanders tasks are, "Build Teams (Teamwork), Drive the Operations Process (Teamwork), and Inform and Influence audiences internal and external to the formation (to build teamwork... or keep the audience off the other persons team). BTW... these are not just commanders task... they are really leaders task!

Lastly, I am not discounting any other mission essential skill. They are all required and all important... except the IG... as I still don't know there real purpose is??? (just joking); however, the question was "What is the most important military skill"... my answer of Teamwork is my attempt to answer a closed ended question... and would submit that a young leader needs to master this skill sooner than later.

After 32 years kicking around it has been my experience that if a person cannot function as a member of a team in the military... this failure can result in outcomes that are worse than a person not as proficient in anyone of several other military skills.... fire/shooting, maneuver/IMT, problem solving, land nav, first aid, etc...

This even ran true last month while I was at MIT participating in their Executive Education Program. We had a few members that did not function on our teams very well... and the professors and staff had to address those issues with the students... it was even a specific subject when talking about building High Performance Teams. The point of the discussion was that no matter how good a person is as an individual... with their KSAs... unless they can function on a team... they are of limited value... and can actually hurt the team.

Sorry for being long winded... and sorry if I didn't answer the question that you were trying to get resolution.

Best Regards

Cam

Response by 1SG Scott MacGregor made Apr 8 at 2015 9:44 AM

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As a young LT, dont come to the platoon acting le you know it all and want to make changes. Shut your yap and listen to the PSG and senior SL, recognize you may outrank them, but they outrank you in time and expereince. ALso pay particuliar to the 1SG, you may outrank him but he works for your commander. If the 1SG tells you are screwing up, you better stop and listen. I am not advocating you be a push over by any means, but listen and learn from the others aroudn you. Be willing to let the PSG and SL make decisions and provide input on your decisions. Listening and proving you care and want to learn from the expereince around you will get more respect then pushing rank around.

Response by Cpl Karl Gleason made Apr 8 at 2015 9:03 PM

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Always put your Men first period.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 11 at 2015 7:52 PM

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The three rules for success. Number one surround yourself with exceptional people, I forget the second two...

Response by SA Harold Hansmann made Apr 22 at 2015 11:40 AM

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Listen to your noncom. He/She has been there for decade/s. They have a lot of knowledge the officer needs.

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Apr 22 at 2015 11:46 AM

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Trust their senior enlisted!

Response by SPC Will Pooley made Apr 22 at 2015 12:08 PM

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Understand that even thou you are an officer don't try and bullshit your soldiers into thinking you know everything some of those soldiers know more than you

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made May 11 at 2015 9:41 PM

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Listen. Listen to your seniors. Listen to your NCOs. Listen to your soldiers. If you aren't hearing anything then either you need to stop talking or start asking questions

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 12 at 2015 12:37 PM

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Don't show up at your first platoon acting like an arrogant prick. Be humble and listen the NCOs, especially the Platoon SGT.

Response by SGT William Howell made May 12 at 2015 3:26 PM

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Be able to read a map!! Nothing makes a NCO more pissed than an officer that can't find his way. It also puts doubt into the minds of the enlisted. If he can't even read a map what else does he know nothing about? Just my 2 cents.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 12 at 2015 3:48 PM

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You have to prove yourself technically and tactically. You must gain the trust of the platoon.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2015 7:22 PM

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Just because you do not have a formal degree does not mean you are stupid or uneducated. ..... Remember junior enlisted folks are usually folks looking to better themselves and probably joined, at least in part, for the educational opportunities. Also remember the senior enlisted leadership tier has a higher percentage of personnel with post graduate degrees in it than the officer corps (at least in the AF at last report I read 2010). Also remember that not everyone is cut out for formal education but it does not define their intelligence.....as is posted above someday you many need to read a map or some other old school skill....and guess who you're gonna have to turn to.

Anyway apart from that I would say remember to always to be fair....and that every exception you make to the rules defines your future so pick and chose them carefully.

Response by SCPO John Croix made May 12 at 2015 8:15 PM

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Listen to your senior enlisted (E7,8,9) they will steer you down the right path. They have "been there, done that" and have already learned the rules of the road, made the mistakes, and suffered the penalty. Listen to they are trying to keep you on the straight and narrow.
Praise in public, censure in private.

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made May 12 at 2015 9:28 PM

2015-05-12T21:28:15-04:00

Learn from others. Even as a junior enlist, i still stuck on some stuff.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2015 8:14 AM

2015-05-13T08:14:22-04:00

Listen to your NCOs. They've been in longer. They know plenty. Your "college degree" does not make you smarter, wiser or more experienced. Ignore this, and you will burn. Oh, and shut up. You're fresh! Stop talking, and listen more.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jun 7 at 2015 7:45 PM

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Listen to your NCO's/Petty Officers, not just senior enlisted. They have a wealth of information to share with you. Don't get in the mindset that your rank trumps experience.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Jun 10 at 2015 11:12 AM

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"While those who break the rules are trash, those who abandon their comrades are worse than trash"

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 2 at 2015 6:54 PM

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Some things aren't broken...the "good idea fairy" can leave.

Response by SFC Jon Dennihan made Sep 2 at 2015 7:15 PM

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Attach yourself to your nco in your platoon. Watch and learn. Ask questions ,learn your job and respect your troops. It is not about you ,learn to lead ,listen, understand your new to the military,you need to learn the ropes,not hide behide your bar which means nothing until you earn it.

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2015 11:54 AM

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Dealing with Plt Cmdr/Plt Sgt Relationships:

Trust me. In my mind, if you fail, I fail.

Don't ever talk down to me. I have earned my place among Marines and will assist you in earning yours.

Tell me when I piss you off, it is not my intent to ever piss you off or humiliate you, but when I do I have a correction coming.

Hold me accountable, you can bet your ass I will hold you accountable.

We are a team. Never disagree with me in front of the troops. That is for behind closed doors. I will help you develop the plan, but in front of the boys, it is your plan and I am there to support you in implementing it.

Re-post from: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/senior-ncos-psgs-what-qualities-and-actions-do-you-look-for-in-a-young-lt?urlhash=990065

SENIOR NCOs & PSGs: What qualities and actions do you look for in a young LT? | RallyPoint

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2015 1:28 PM

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Your SNCOs are one of the best resources in your quiver of tricks.....use them wisely......what you learned in college they learned in life.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Sep 25 at 2015 1:39 PM

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Listen to and follow what your 1SG or another Senior Enlisted Soldier tells You, they have longevity You're new.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Sep 26 at 2015 8:24 AM

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Listen to your senior NCOs...they know more than you ever will. Eye and ears open, mouth shut.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 27 at 2015 12:01 PM

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Watch out for gold diggers. If that does not work, looking at the future MIL to determine if she is batshit crazy.

Response by SSG Jocephus Duckworth made Sep 27 at 2015 2:03 PM

2015-09-27T14:03:15-04:00

Listen to your NCO's !!!!

Response by Maj Tom BangKnudsen made Sep 29 at 2015 12:53 PM

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My father, a corporal in the Army, told me the day I left to The Basic School to listen to my senior enlisted... They are there to help and mold young officers... When you make a leadership call be able to back it up... Accept your mistakes

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 3:24 PM

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Every young officer should be able to talk with people without being a jerk(and never forget that), know the value of doing every job you ask others to do by doing them in your first unit and become tacticly and technicly proficient of all aspects of your unit's mission and equipment. The only way to do this is to have your unit teach you - hands on. That includes privates too.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 3:28 PM

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JOPA 4 LYFE

Response by CAPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 3:53 PM

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Your question fences the discussion to "the one thing" so this is an easy answer. Your honor and integrity is the "one" thing that you must have and protect at all times. That's it! It is not the "one" thing that will make you above zone or successful or even tactically proficient, but it will give you the bedrock leadership requirement from which you can launch all other critical requirements that you must know and learn. I don't care how proficient you are at everything else, if you have no honor and no integrity then I would not have you in my wardroom. As a senior leader if I can't trust you and believe what you say, then I can't lean on you in a time of extremis. Honor and integrity lad. It has always been so. What is was is what it is.

Response by LCDR Gerald Lowe made Sep 29 at 2015 4:05 PM

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In my humble opinion (foreshadow what my thought is) I think humility is what a young officer should arrive bearing in mind - constantly. I suspect you are smart and gifted to have made it this far, I also suspect you are motivated, dedicated and have a great love of Country, all great things. However, regardless of how smart you are, again my opinion, I fully believe we can constantly learn from those around us and being humble to hear what they are saying, showing, and teaching us will keep you moving forward. We can all learn. All the best Marine.

S/F
Gerald

Response by MAJ Robert Wilson made Sep 29 at 2015 4:13 PM

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Having been an NCO and a field grade officer before retiring, any officer MUST listen to there NCOs and soldiers/airmen/seamen. Listen to what they say and make a decision. You might not always agree with what they said and you will have to live with that decision. You men and women need two things: listen to what they have to say and make the hard decisions. It helped me all my career and in combat.

Response by LT Jerry Gordon made Sep 29 at 2015 4:17 PM

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The thing that you will need to do everyday, and will ensure your success is probably the most unglamorous thing that you get exposed to in training. For a Navy ensign, it was how the supply and training paperwork worked. Make sure you find out what that is, and listen to the more experienced people, especially NCO, to do so.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 4:24 PM

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Have thick skin. Not everything is personal.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 29 at 2015 4:29 PM

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Your last known point.

Response by LTC Donell Kelly made Sep 29 at 2015 4:57 PM

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1) Listen & learn from your NCO's. 2) Take care of your soldiers & #1 can help you a great deal with #2.

Response by TSgt Nels Muler made Sep 29 at 2015 5:05 PM

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From an NCO perspective listen to us we are usually trying to do what is best for everyone, but do not be afraid to behind close doors or in the appropriate environment ask us why we do something or for advice on what to do. Some of the best junior officers I ever served with asked questions listened an allowed the NCO's a lot of latitude where available to do things fairly independently but also insisted on the NCO's bearing responsibility for the decisions we made, while having our back for making them

Response by SPC Paul Rogers made Sep 29 at 2015 5:10 PM

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Listen to advice from more senior officers, NCOs, and even lower enlisted because, no matter what you think or were told, you don't know everything and you can learn from anyone and everyone if you just listen and pay attention.

Response by CAPT Hiram Patterson made Sep 29 at 2015 5:15 PM

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Take care of your people. Learn their strengths and weaknesses. You can't treat them as friends or buddies but certainly learn something about them on a personal level such as families, where they came from, their Navy experiences, concerns, etc. Learn from your NCOs as they have a wealth of experience that will prove valuable
to you.

Response by CDR Robert Johnson made Sep 29 at 2015 6:25 PM

2015-09-29T18:25:05-04:00

Go out for a beer with your leading Chief. Let him/her know that you are relying on him/her to keep your ass out of the fire. If you're a Navy O-1, know very well that the Navy is run by the PO1's. Let 'em do it.

Response by CPT Melanie Ryan made Sep 29 at 2015 6:31 PM

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Two main concepts always struck me with new O-1s. First and foremost was the lack of understanding of the importance of the NCO. 2LTs (and Ensigns) are there to learn. No matter what college you went to, and what degree you earned, your platoon sergeant (or the Naval equivalent) knows more about how to do your job than you likely ever will. Treat the PSGT with the respect that they have earned through years of selfless service and you can be a success. Treat him or her like a lower class member of society unworthy of your interest or concern, and I guarantee your failure.

When you have signed in and are introduced to the PSGT for the 1st time, give one standing order: "Teach me what I need to know." And then shut up and listen. When you don't know the answer, the right thing to do is to ask your PSGT his or her opinion. Remember, they EARNED that posting, whereas you were slotted into a vacancy.

Secondly, don't fear failure. Your ARE going to make mistakes. That is the Prime Purpose of the 2nd Lieutenant/Ensign. Provided your mistakes do not repeat (too often) and do not result in death or serious injury to personnel, you'll probably be okay. When you FUBAR something- OWN IT! As a leader, you are responsible for everything that the led do or fail to do. Commanders do not want to hear excuses from their subordinates, and bad news is not like wine; it does not get better with time. The first time you sell out your troops to cover your ass, you're toast. Your bosses may not hear about it (don't bet on it) but the troops will, and once they learn how little you care about them, you're going to become the poster child for ineffective leadership.

Bottom line: respect those who know more than you and do most of the work, learn for your mistakes and own your screw-ups. Lastly, don't be afraid to laugh. Nothing is ever so bad that there isn't something to laugh at. If you find that there is nothing to laugh at whatsoever, then, hoo-boy, has it REALLY hit the fan or what?

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 6:56 PM

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After you assign your Marines a task take a step back and just watch. Your instinct will be to get involved right away when things are different than you would like, fight that urge. You'll be amazed by how they accomplish tasks. You'll learn more about your Marines and the group dynamic than by any other means. Also, you're demonstrating confidence in their abilities. Your trust in their abilities, especially in your NCOs, means the world to them.

Response by MAJ Daniel Flynn made Sep 29 at 2015 7:14 PM

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Put in extra hours to learn what your platoon sergeant knows.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 7:21 PM

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probably that there's a lot more to know than "one thing."

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 7:53 PM

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Something less obvious and possibly not stated (there were way too many to read them all) would be effective writing skills. In today's email-centric environment where you may never meet half of the people you communicate with, you are what you write.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 29 at 2015 7:56 PM

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This one is really really important. In the mornings and afternoon conduct hands on sensitive items checks by your NCOs, but also do it before you depart an area because that is the last known point. I told you last known point is important.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 8:16 PM

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1. Expect to learn
2. Expect to fail (I would almost encourage it...no better way to learn)
3. Remain professional, keep a sense of humor, do the things you don't want to do first; your commander is watching, and so are your troops.
4. Take the blame for your people...and also give them the credit for getting the job done.
5. Do the job with the mindset of wanting to contribute, and in the best interest of the mission
6. You will start to find success...and you will be a leader.

Response by CDR Carl Tankersley made Sep 29 at 2015 9:22 PM

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In the Horse Calvery, an officer did not eat until the horses were bedded down and the Troopers fed. My father, an Army Air Corps ground pounder in the Pacific during WW II, told me this with the admonition: take care of your equipment and your troops and they will take care of you. I followed his advice, adding "report up problems with either equipment or troops and get them solved ASAP.

Response by SSG Toryn Green made Sep 29 at 2015 9:53 PM

2015-09-29T21:53:07-04:00

#1 piece of advice for young and inexperienced officer...remain humble, listen to your seasoned NCOs, and don't be afraid to ask lots of questions!

Response by CPT Rell Spratley made Sep 29 at 2015 9:56 PM

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If logistics isn't your main branch, learn it with all diligence!! Know the supply and maintenance systems like the back of your hand. If you can get a good grasp and understanding about beans and bullets, your Soldiers will LOVE you to death even if you don't know exactly what they do since they're the subject matter experts. So get knee deep with the supply and maintenance programs and everything else will eventually fall into place and you'll be seen as the LT that gets crap done and your Soldiers will appreciate that immensely since getting critical resources will allow your platoon to outshine others. Plus, your Platoon Sergeant will appreciate it as well so he/she can spend more time training your Soldiers while you're making things happen behind the scenes. Remember, supply and maintenance.

Response by CPT Edward Barr made Sep 30 at 2015 6:17 AM

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No matter how good you think you are at it, you don't know how to read a map yet.

Response by MAJ Charles Ray made Sep 30 at 2015 9:15 AM

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Through tough experience, the most important thing I learned as a young 2LT was to listen - to everyone at all times.

Response by Lt Col Brad Hamant made Sep 30 at 2015 9:16 AM

2015-09-30T09:16:05-04:00

One simple rule: LEAD WITH YOUR EARS!!!

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2015 10:42 AM

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Listen to you senior NCO/Chief

Response by CAPT John Harman made Sep 30 at 2015 12:40 PM

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My advice, like that of many other officers and senior NCOs, is develop a mentoring relationship with one or more of YOUR senior NCOs. While they must know (and good ones will expect this) that you are the final decision-maker and that you are looking for their perspective on issues, you can avoid a lot of (most) discipline problems by working with and through your senior NCOs. Having said this, you need to also be careful of suck-ups and manipulators.

Response by CPT George Ramirez made Sep 30 at 2015 2:02 PM

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Listen to your squarred away NCO's

Response by LCDR Jayne Garland made Sep 30 at 2015 2:27 PM

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It is not about you. It is about your people. If they aren't able to do their jobs, you haven't done yours.

Response by Capt Michael Brown made Sep 30 at 2015 3:36 PM

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Know your people before anything else. Talk with and get to know your NCO's. They need to know that you will hear them. If they learn that you support them (not talking about going easy on training!) they will have your back also. Always remember that there is always more to learn and you can get that education from your troops.
Thank the Lord if you get a good SNCO for your first go around!

Response by Cpl Clinton Britt made Sep 30 at 2015 3:39 PM

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Listen and learn from the enlisted. Even the e3

Response by CDR David Habeger made Sep 30 at 2015 6:58 PM

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Things will not get better on their own. Senior leadership do not always make the right decisions and junior officers should voice their concerns, even in ignorance. If you are thought to be lacking in knowledge of awareness then that is a criticism of the service trailing and preparation of its officers. It should not be done with disrespect but it should be raised, especially in professional journals. Sponsor your own discussion groups and invite seniors to visit and speak, and listen. If it has to be raised in anonymity, that's a bad sign. A suppression of open discussion, especially criticisms from the 0-1 to 0-4 ranks, resulted in very serious problems in WWII for the British (armor) and Americans while the Germans and, surprisingly the French, were much tolerant of questioning and respectful dissent by juniors.

Response by SSgt Tim Brock made Sep 30 at 2015 10:43 PM

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Listen to your NCOs. But, if you are smart enough to ask this question, you probably already know this.

Thank you for leading,
Tim

Response by Gregory Coleridge made Oct 1 at 2015 6:08 AM

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Keep the mouth shut! And learn!

Response by CPT David Ozbun made Oct 1 at 2015 9:24 PM

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The men respect your rank. You must earn their respect.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2015 12:48 AM

2015-10-02T00:48:21-04:00

Drink the kool aid and whatever job you do....do it well.

Response by Lt Col Robert Canfield made Oct 7 at 2015 4:01 PM

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How to problem solve... or what I call FSO skills (Figure 'Stuff' Out) and... don't ask someone to do something you wouldn't attempt to do yourself.

Response by SSG Robert Spina made Nov 5 at 2015 8:35 PM

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TRUST YOUR SENIOR NCO'S

Response by CAPT Hiram Patterson made Nov 19 at 2015 11:24 AM

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Fortunately I was enlisted in the Army and Air National Guards before I got my Navy commission. I came in as a LTjg so never had the Ensign experience. At least I had knowledge of what to expect and had good E-6's and Chiefs and a great O-4 "Seadaddy."

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 26 at 2015 4:04 PM

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Listen to your Platoon Sergeant and 1st Sergeant. Just because you out rank them doesn't mean you know more.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2016 2:50 PM

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Probably the most important thing I can think of is to take care of your people. Hold them accountable but help them learn as they go. Get to know them a bit (family/relationship situation) and then find out what motivates them. You can be friendly but you cannot be their friend. When they have an issue do your best to help them fix it. If you can't fix it (or help them find a solution) know who to go to that can help them. If you take care of them they will take care of you. The corollary to this is realize that not all your people will have the same level of motivation. You can't save their career if they are hell bent on destroying it. You can't want them to be successful more than them and if they don't want to be successful do your best by them and then realize that sometimes they just need to fail on their own so they will learn a lesson. In 30 years of service I have had only 2 Sailors quit on me. I don't get it but it was their choice not mine. I made sure they had the tools they needed and the knowledge to implement the plan but they just wouldn't do it.

Response by Lt Col Robert Canfield made Nov 3 at 2016 12:58 PM

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A retired Army O-6 once told me: "There are those who get ahead by pinning 'gold stars' on other people, and then there are those who get ahead by pinning 'brown stars' on other people. You need to decide which kind of person you want to be."

Response by CDR William Kempner made Nov 3 at 2016 1:21 PM

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There are several things-taking care of your people is at the top. That doesn't mean being their buddy-a typical j.o. mistake. It means seeing that their needs are met, often before yours-food shelter, gear, etc. Being MATURE is another. Sometimes the j.o.s are very young-I was a 21 y/o 2dLT long before I was in USN-you have to learn and watch and be quiet. Sr NCO's/CPO's -if you're lucky you'll get some good ones. Seek them out. Sometimes E-5s and E-6s are a LOT more willing to share knowledge and give guidance-AND HELP YOU! (I found that often). Keep your own counsel-be very careful at social gatherings and other things. You are "ON" all the time. Watch what you say about your seniors. I learned to NEVER criticize them-most were very unforgiving and very vain-even suggestions offered in the best spirit were often rebuffed. Treat everyone with respect-most will respond in kind. The others-either they're on their way out the door, or you should limit your contact with them as much as possible.

Response by SSG Wally Lawver made Nov 3 at 2016 1:24 PM

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Listen to your NCOs..

Response by CDR William Kempner made Nov 3 at 2016 3:13 PM

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Thought about this at length- two things to add. Understand that not all seniors are going to do the right thing nor look out for you.(Cadets/mids-take heed) They SHOULD, but what people do, and should do are two different things. Watch what is going on-stay alert and protect yourself. LASTLY-STAY TRUE TO YOURSELF. Remember who you are and what you are and what you stand for. I had a CO that used "the shit strain" -somebody was always the target. I was his target for about 9 months. Everyone could do something w/o incident, and I'd do the same thing and get called out for it. (They're out there.) I did everything I could to try to please the guy, but it wasn't to be done. Really shook my confidence for a while.(He was having marital problems) When I got it back, I remembered the "Being true to yourself " thing Had other COs/XOs since -some I liked, plenty I didn't-but they ALL respected me-even if grudgingly. No, I didn't make flag rank, but sleeping well at night with a clear conscience is its own reward.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Nov 4 at 2016 9:12 AM

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Don't go in guns blazing trying to change the world...you can't. Trust in your SNCO's. They have a responsibility to train you and they know the heart and pulse of the unit and their soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines. Join them at the hip and ask for guidance but there will come a time when you have to make decisions...they won't...that is your job but seek their counsel and move out. Make mistakes but learn from them and hold yourself accountable as well as everyone up and down the chain. Get you a little notebook and right down the good and bad and study it...never lose it and when it is full get another one.

Response by LCpl Stephen Arnold made Mar 14 at 2017 11:51 AM

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Leave your ego at cash sales, and don't be afraid to ask questions. Your senior officers expect results you, yourself are not yet capabale of delivering, all the time. Your NCO's, and even your troops, will have answers for you. Be smart enough to articulate fact from fiction.

You are going to learn more from the shit birds and malcontents, about what NOT to do, then you ever will from the squared away, so always be paying attention.

Mostly, be able to laugh at yourself; it makes it easier when we are all laughing at you too! haha (with all due respect, Sir or Ma'am.)

Response by LtCol Robert Quinter made Jul 10 at 2017 5:01 PM

2017-07-10T17:01:48-04:00

I realize this is an old post, but I'm going to provide the single piece of advice Gen Lewis (Chesty) Puller gave me, "Be a leader, not a commander."

Response by SFC Shannon Meloy made Oct 15 at 2017 10:03 PM

2017-10-15T22:03:23-04:00

Shut up and learn