What is the policy on bringing "Assault Weapons" for active duty service members who are PCSing to California?

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:13:44 -0400

Is it legal for Active Duty members with PCS orders to California to bring "Assault Weapons" to California? It seems that each source that I read gives conflicting information.

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Edit: I want to post an update on this. In order to bring an assault weapon, California requires that you must have a signature from the base commander that you need to possess the assault weapon for performance of military duties. Thus, it seems like this is a no go.

Response by PO1 H Gene Lawrence made Apr 11 at 2020 9:23 PM

PO1 H Gene Lawrence — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:23:23 -0400

A great question. I am anxious to hear responses.

Response by SGT Steve McFarland made Apr 11 at 2020 9:30 PM

SGT Steve McFarland — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:30:43 -0400

California has magazine-capacity limits, so I don't know if being in the military exempts you from those limits. I only have two pistols that are "legal" in California, because the standard capacity of the rest of my pistols is over California limits.

Response by SGT Robert Pryor made Apr 11 at 2020 9:36 PM

SGT Robert Pryor — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:36:31 -0400

If you're going to live off post, forget it. On post it will be up to military regulations, but as soon as you head out the gate you will be in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia. By the way, I purchased my first Colt AR-15 in San Bernardino in 1972 or 73. I could, and did, actually walk down the sidewalk with it slung over my shoulder back then. Of course, Ronald Regan was Governor at the time. I would not advise trying it today.

Response by MSG Glen Miller made Apr 11 at 2020 9:48 PM

MSG Glen Miller — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:48:07 -0400

Good evening Paul. You wouldn't be able to take any ammunition with you into California at all. The answer is YES to AR style weapons, but you have to first Call DOJ of California at [login to see] and request what is called a MILITARY PACKAGE before bringing the weapon into the State. NO CLASS 3 SHORT BARRELED WEAPONS are allowed unless they are registered. However, as it pertains to the firearms I would get in contact with the local authorities in California to ensure they would allow you to take your firearms. Here’s a website that may provide more info.
http://vafbgunclub.com/assault-weapons.html
Hope this helps. Stay safe.

Assault Weapons in California

Application information for assault style weapons permit for military personnel.

Response by Capt Gregory Prickett made Apr 11 at 2020 10:03 PM

Capt Gregory Prickett — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:03:41 -0400

Any weapon brought into California has to comply with that states dumbass restrictions. There is not an exception for service personnel.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 11 at 2020 10:23 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:23:56 -0400

I cant convince you enough to check out the laws for weapons. I have heard of people going to prisons for not being prudent or being ignorant.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Apr 11 at 2020 10:33 PM

MAJ Byron Oyler — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:33:01 -0400

They are not assault weapons, period. Please get that out of your verbiage.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 11 at 2020 10:35 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:35:38 -0400

What firearm(s) are you wanting to take with you and to which post.

Response by TSgt David L. made Apr 11 at 2020 10:37 PM

TSgt David L. — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:37:17 -0400

Hey LT. I'd be happy to babysit y'alls ARs up here in free Montana while you are stationed in Kalifornia!

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 11 at 2020 10:49 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:49:07 -0400

Imagine how I was feeling when I had orders to Japan and have 2 suppressors.... let alone trying to PCS to the "American" PRC.
That state needs to just fall off, couple charges in that fault line oughta do it. So sick of CA getting to dictate national crap because they're big and have a bunch of people. Thanks Pelosi, Feinstein, and CARB! As if my car will ever be registered in that hellhole.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 12 at 2020 12:09 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 12 Apr 2020 00:09:12 -0400

I’d contact these folks and modify the firearms to CA specs: https://www.sportsmansarms.net/2017-ca-compliance/

2018 CA Compliance

One way to go about owning a modern semi-automatic sporting rifle in California starting Jan 1 2017 is to buy/build them ‘featureless’. What this means is you take away any ‘evil feature’ per California standards. Features include a pistol grip, bullet button, flash hider, collapsable or folding stock and forward vertical pistol grip.

Response by LTJG Robert M. made Apr 12 at 2020 12:24 AM

LTJG Robert M. — Sun, 12 Apr 2020 00:24:27 -0400

Welcome to Kalifornia, home of the liberals , prison of the brave

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Apr 12 at 2020 12:34 AM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Sun, 12 Apr 2020 00:34:09 -0400

Gun owners entering and living in California are expected to have their firearms in compliance with State Law. You won’t get harassed in regards to AR or pistol high cap magazines because those could actually be for work but you won’t win that argument in regards to your personal rifle. That isn’t going on deployment with you. I recently left there after 9 years and it’s beautiful but the politics and taxes are too painful over time. Good luck

Response by 1SG Tommy McGee made Apr 12 at 2020 12:44 AM

1SG Tommy McGee — Sun, 12 Apr 2020 00:44:34 -0400

I would request a duty station that wasn’t in a communist country like California. Seriously.!
If you can’t change duty stations, I would get communist compliant before going. The DOJ and the lawmakers there are ridiculous. You can’t make enough laws to keep dumb*** people safe.

Response by SGT Robert Pryor made Apr 12 at 2020 8:58 AM

SGT Robert Pryor — Sun, 12 Apr 2020 08:58:37 -0400

2LT Private RallyPoint Member, welcome to Rally Point! I'm sure that you have found this thread you started to be as informative as it is entertaining. Good luck at Ft. Irwin. Hopefully someday you'll be stationed in The "United" States again.

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Apr 12 at 2020 9:38 AM

MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P — Sun, 12 Apr 2020 09:38:37 -0400

My suggestion would be to contact the local police departments close to where you will be stationed. They should be able to help you find the information you need in regards to applicable state and local firearms laws.

BTW- The best part of California is any road heading East out of that God-forsaken hellhole.

Response by Sgt Ed Allen made Apr 14 at 2020 8:00 AM

Sgt Ed Allen — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:00:54 -0400

You are not allowed to "import" any magazines greater than 10 rounds. If you bring in an "Assault Weapon", you must register it with the DOJ before you bring it in. Otherwise, it's a felony and you lose your right to own firearms anywhere.

Part of the reason I left California 18 months ago. It was my Marine Corps birthday present to myself.

Under California law, you cannot purchase ammunition without a back ground check. And if you are not a resident (register your car and get a CA license) you cannot purchase ammo at all except at the range. So figure double the normal selling price for ammo.

If you have a semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine you cannot have ANY of the following:
Flash Hider/Flash Suppressor
Pistol Grip (They consider the archangel stock to be a pistol grip so the M1A with archangel is considered an assault rifle in CA)
Forward Pistol grip
Collapsing stock.

If you want to keep your magazines, you had better find a friend who will hold on to them for you until you return to a free state.

If you are somebody who wants to help fight this tyranny, support the California Rifle & Pistol Association, the California Gun Foundation or the California Gun Owners Association. They have multiple lawsuits against the state for violations of the second amendment. One is being considered by the SCOTUS because CA law enforcement is able to confiscate your firearms without due cause and are not required to return them.

Response by SSG(P) Danielle Birtha made Apr 17 at 2020 2:59 PM

SSG(P) Danielle Birtha — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 14:59:43 -0400

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." ... no, you don't have the right, unless you meet the requirements of the regulations. Interstate trafficking of weapons, tobacco, and other "contraband", is still illegal in the U.S.A.
Those Regulations are defined by the Individual States of this Republic.
It's a Federal Right, controlled by the States. Think about that, as you Vote to re-elect the same people who shouted to the world during the Impeachment and Trial that "CHINA IS THE ENEMY! RUSSIA IS THE ENEMY! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!" As they who shout dictate Trade Deals with China, Russia, and every enemy in the History of this Nation, who are gifted the Blessings of OUR Liberty, while those same Servants LEAD an INVASION into our Nation, demanding full diplomatic immunity from the law (sanctuary) for those Invaders, as they rape rob and murder U.S. Citizens, while enjoying all the privileges and immunities of We The CITIZENS of the United States of America... when they can NEVER be U.S. because they are Criminal INVADERS.
DACA is Legislated HIGH Treason... according to the Constitution, and U.S. Law...
--> NO ... ONE ... IS ... ABOVE ... THE ... LAW???
The LAW: U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 115 › § 2381 TREASON: "Whoever, OWING ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES, levies war against them OR ADHERES TO THEIR ENEMIES, giving them AID AND COMFORT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OR ELSEWHERE, IS GUILTY OF TREASON AND SHALL SUFFER DEATH, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
Aiding Invaders WITHIN the U.S. ... Trading our Prosperous Manufacturing Jobs to China, Our Enemy???
HIGH TREASON SOLDIERS.
HIGH %$#@#$% TREASON >(
Go ahead... keep accepting your oppression, as you defend Saudi Arabia, the REAL 9/11 attackers and funders of terrorist attacks on we the people... from their enemies,... AS YOU RE-ELECT THE TRAITOROUS $#@%$&@$ IN CONGRESS WHO OPPRESS U.S. INTO SLAVERY TO OUR ENEMIES... BY LAW ... while our military is slapping fleas in the Mid East protecting our enemies. >(
While demanding that the ONE person in the U.S. who is trying to stop all this %$#@ --> President Donald Trump <-- IS THE REAL CRIMINAL... FOR TRYING TO STOP THEIR TREASON...
while you in service to this Nation... SUPPORT THE TRAITORS, INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT THE UCMJ COMMANDS...
DRAG THEM OUT OF THEIR OFFICES AND IMPRISON THEM FOR THEIR TREASON, WHILE WE THE PEOPLE REPLACE THEM WITH U.S. CITIZENS...
--> INSTEAD OF ALLOWING ENEMY AGENTS SYMPATHETIC TO OUR ENEMIES TO TRADE U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES >(
--> WAKE UP... OUR MILITARY IS STANDING IDLY BY... AIDING A TAKEOVER OF OUR NATION BY OUR ENEMIES... whining because the CHANCELLOR of the FOURTH REICH (Nazi Pelosi) failed to hang Trump for DOING HIS JOB AS COMMANDED BY THE CONSTITUTION, U.S. LAW, AND INTERNATIONAL TREATY LAWS...
and you wonder why we the people are no longer free? why we no longer have our guaranteed Constitutional Rights?
--> because you voted for it >(
wahhhhh... go ahead and re-elect the traitors... and whine some more, as they round up your UNEMPLOYED BY LAW children, to aid the Chinese slaves, Hispanic Slaves, and Japanese slaves currently working in and for U.S. ... to serve the Furor of the Fourth Reich.... Adolfina Pelosi
13th Amendment? When we have illegal invaders, and the slaves of the world creating our products... BY LAW... WHILE COMPLETELY IGNORING ALL U.S. LABOR, WAGE, AND EMPLOYMENT LAWS OF THE U.S.?

You want to have your guns, while you vote for the people who take them away, so your enemies can oppress you, because you hate on command of the DICTATORS you vote for, who call themselves Democratic?
yeah... DICTATORS... raise your hand if you were given the right to vote for allowing invaders to overrun your Nation... with Sanctuary from U.S. Laws? No one?
okay... raise your hand if you were given the right to vote on any of the Trade Deals, that give our Nation to our Enemies, in return for poverty, and Campaign Funds? No one?
And you think we are a free and democratic independent Republic... as they dictate, control, and make U.S dependent on CHINA IS THE ENEMY???
--> MORON SLAVES... ALL OF YOU... BY YOUR OWN VOTE!!!!
You wear the Uniform, say the words, but have no clue what Patriotism, Freedom, Democracy, or Independence mean. SAD.
DUTY - HONOR - COUNTRY
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Stop voting for our enemies... VOTE FOR U.S.
IF you ever expect to get your freedom back.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2020 4:56 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 16:56:47 -0400

My personal opinion, being both a Reservist in CA and a CA native, shhh. Keep that information to yourself and don't register your "assault weapons" in CA. Also stock up on 30 round mags before you move.

As for the military exemption, from what I know, there isn't one. But I hope I'm wrong.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2020 11:27 AM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 May 2020 11:27:32 -0400

I want to post an update on this. In order to bring an assault weapon, California requires that you must have a signature from the base commander that you need to possess the assault weapon for performance of military duties. Thus, it seems like this is a no go.

Response by SSG Christopher Parrish made Jun 3 at 2020 3:32 PM

SSG Christopher Parrish — Wed, 03 Jun 2020 15:32:38 -0400

The policy is move to TX if you can, we issue people rifles at the border if they don't have any :-)

Response by 1LT James May made Jun 14 at 2020 11:43 PM

1LT James May — Sun, 14 Jun 2020 23:43:59 -0400

First they are not "assault weapons" as those are illegal for anyone to hold in a civilian capacity. Second, you can make a few cosmetic changes and no longer fall under the unconstitutional Kalifornia laws. I have an AR556 which I bought in Kalifornia that came with an awful "fin" that made it impossible to conveniently shoot. It was legal with the fin. It iw also legal with a Thorsen stock that is much more convenient and gives a grip like my lever action rifle. Not as good as the actual AR design but reasonably convient and no longer meets the Kalifornia "assault weapon" definition. The stock is a definite thing you have to change there are a few other things you have to be careful about. No forward handle. No flash suppressor (but a compensator is OK). Check the rules make a few changes and you don't have a Kalifornia "assault weapon".

Response by SSgt Judy L made Jun 23 at 2020 5:30 AM

SSgt Judy L — Tue, 23 Jun 2020 05:30:45 -0400

Probably don’t want you in Cali either. Crazy, sexist and probably racist too.

Response by SFC Bill Snyder made Jul 4 at 2020 9:44 AM

SFC Bill Snyder — Sat, 04 Jul 2020 09:44:50 -0400

Well, can use the old adage from the recently old Army, just in reverse: Don't Tell, Don't Ask. Hopefully, your tour in Kommifornia won't be forever. Like carrying a concealed weapon. If they can't see it, how do they know you have it.