What is the policy/process for granting leave in excess of earned leave?

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Nov 2016 13:09:20 -0500

A new LT graduated from OCS and reported to BOLC yesterday. Today LT is briefed that all reserve SMs will only be granted leave for exodus equal to what will be earned (10 days). The course will be suspended 17 Dec - 2 Jan; all AC Soldiers will be granted full leave.
I know the AC SMs have/will earn more leave days. What is the process to grant excess leave or recoup the "deficit"?

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Nov 29 at 2016 1:10 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Tue, 29 Nov 2016 13:10:54 -0500

Unless something changed it is a local policy and commander's decision, not a regulatory issue. If you are looking to support the LT's want for more leave, ask the question from the other end.. "Sir, what regulation supports your decision to not allow the LT to take the full leave period, regardless of accumulated leave? Sir clearly a New LT with severals years of service obligation will have the time remaining in service to "earn" the excess leave he takes this leave period"
In general, as a supervisor, i did not sign off on using excess leave..it was an option when it was shown to be tin the best interest of the SM, but not an automatic thing just because the leave period was announced as available. Many times SM think only of the now, not the tomorrow..when they ask for and receive excess leave for the standard christmas leave , and are now denied leave 6 months from now when a relative could really use the help moving out of a bad situation, new baby brother is born.... grandmas last birthday has come about..ect...

Response by MAJ Laurie H. made Nov 29 at 2016 1:23 PM

MAJ Laurie H. — Tue, 29 Nov 2016 13:23:47 -0500

I can't exactly cite the process or policy, but I can speak to my own experience.

When I went to BOLC most of my class was RC and in the same situation over exodus. We only received the 10 days of leave; excess was not granted since we don't earn leave on m-day status upon return to assignment. While we didn't get to be home the full break, we did one in-person check-in upon return then reported each morning but had the remainder of the days off. Some RC Soldiers took advantage of the Gold Bar Recruiting through a recruiting station at home to enable them to stay home longer without taking excess leave.

Response by CPO Bill Penrod made Nov 29 at 2016 5:32 PM

CPO Bill Penrod — Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:32:25 -0500

Eventually the personnel/pay records will be audited and the service will get their pound of flesh...........