Posted on Jan 21, 2019
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In looking to enhance my firearm knowledge I'm hoping to tap into the shooter base on RP as I'm looking into getting certified as a firearm instructor. I'd like to know more about the process and as well what organization to do it through as there seem to be a number of options. I'm in IL and the state has their own requirements which seem pretty straight forward however looking for help, advice and training.
Firearms and Guns
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Every state differs. In NC you must take their course. I suggest you take some of the NRA courses. I am NRA certified basic pistol , range safety officer, and a couple more.
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SPC David S.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction - I remembered seeing something on IL State police when I applied for CCL and went back to their site.
From the IL state police website requirements in order to apply for instructor certification
done - submit fingerprints through an Illinois licensed Livescan vendor
yes - be at least 21 years of age
yes - a legal resident of the United States
yes - possess a high school diploma or GED certificate
possess at least one of the following valid firearms instructor certifications:
no - Certification from a law enforcement agency
no - Certification from a firearm instructor course offered by a state or federal governmental agency
no - Certification from a firearm instructor course offered by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board
* looks like the way to go - Certification from an entity approved by the Illinois State Police that offers firearm instructor education and training in the use and safety of firearms, such as the National Rifle Association of America (NRA).
yes - Additionally, Instructor applicants residing in Illinois or a similar state must either possess an Illinois concealed carry license or be in the process of applying for the Illinois concealed carry license. Out-of-state residents, those not consider a similar state of Illinois, must have a concealed carry license within the state they reside.
As well I would need to present curriculum for CCL case - but they provide a nice template - more or less check yes that you'll cover it or won't.
https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/Documents/CurriculumApprovalRequest(2-638).pdf
From the IL state police website requirements in order to apply for instructor certification
done - submit fingerprints through an Illinois licensed Livescan vendor
yes - be at least 21 years of age
yes - a legal resident of the United States
yes - possess a high school diploma or GED certificate
possess at least one of the following valid firearms instructor certifications:
no - Certification from a law enforcement agency
no - Certification from a firearm instructor course offered by a state or federal governmental agency
no - Certification from a firearm instructor course offered by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board
* looks like the way to go - Certification from an entity approved by the Illinois State Police that offers firearm instructor education and training in the use and safety of firearms, such as the National Rifle Association of America (NRA).
yes - Additionally, Instructor applicants residing in Illinois or a similar state must either possess an Illinois concealed carry license or be in the process of applying for the Illinois concealed carry license. Out-of-state residents, those not consider a similar state of Illinois, must have a concealed carry license within the state they reside.
As well I would need to present curriculum for CCL case - but they provide a nice template - more or less check yes that you'll cover it or won't.
https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/Documents/CurriculumApprovalRequest(2-638).pdf
CurriculumApprovalRequest(2-638).pdf
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I wish you best on getting your State Certification for your state, there are alot of firearms personnel on RP, and I know they will be giving you what you need to know. There is a Gun and Firearms group on RP too.
If you haven't gone there yet this is the link.
https://www.rallypoint.com/topics/firearms-and-guns
If you haven't gone there yet this is the link.
https://www.rallypoint.com/topics/firearms-and-guns
A live Q&A where U.S. military members and veterans discuss and evaluate Firearms and Guns.
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SPC David S. - Yes, that 1911 38-super was my competition gun back since the late 70's. I was shooting IPSC, Steel Challenge, Bowling Pin shooting with it, I did all the gunsmithing myself.
In those days, Wilson wasn't well known to the world yet, Jeff Cooper was in all the gun magazines, and Ed Brown came later.
I used Caspian slide and frame, because I had a friend that had the frame cut to fit a ramped barrel, and the machinist cut it to much, so he gave it to me.
I was a welder at the Naval ship yard, I had the best TIG welder weld repair it for me, and had it cut by the shop machinist training leader, knowing it would be cut right.
I won alot of competition with it, I reloaded my own ammo, molded my bullets out of shot bullets off the range that I picked up, and used to shoot every Sunday, 1000 to 3000 rounds.
Those were the days I learned that it didn't matter how much your gun cost or what you had on it, it all came down to being proficient, comfortable, and knowledgeable of your firearm. (Remember those three words when you start as a Firearms Instructor)
All this Mambo Jumbo about a gun that cost $2000 to $5000 and what's on it, don't really matter to me. The key is the shooter, to get placement and accuracy on target with a short time factor.
As a SWAT officer, you had to carry only what was issued, and you better get proficient and comfortable with it in the streets, it'll save your life.
I still do my own gunsmithing and have some projects going, my old Colt Commander 70 series I got back from a retired homicide officer that I sold to him in 1982 was in very bad shape, but I restored it, and it's a good shooter today, just like the first day I got it in 1979.
Picture is of my 1911 before I cut it up, a picture of some of my handguns and my old Commander when I got it back. On the Firearms and Gun RP site, I posted the restore of the Commander. My project now is a RIA 1911 FS, changing some parts and Cerakoting it myself, I just learned how to hot Cerakote the other few weeks ago, going to post when I finish with it. Two of my 1911's are not in the pictures.
In those days, Wilson wasn't well known to the world yet, Jeff Cooper was in all the gun magazines, and Ed Brown came later.
I used Caspian slide and frame, because I had a friend that had the frame cut to fit a ramped barrel, and the machinist cut it to much, so he gave it to me.
I was a welder at the Naval ship yard, I had the best TIG welder weld repair it for me, and had it cut by the shop machinist training leader, knowing it would be cut right.
I won alot of competition with it, I reloaded my own ammo, molded my bullets out of shot bullets off the range that I picked up, and used to shoot every Sunday, 1000 to 3000 rounds.
Those were the days I learned that it didn't matter how much your gun cost or what you had on it, it all came down to being proficient, comfortable, and knowledgeable of your firearm. (Remember those three words when you start as a Firearms Instructor)
All this Mambo Jumbo about a gun that cost $2000 to $5000 and what's on it, don't really matter to me. The key is the shooter, to get placement and accuracy on target with a short time factor.
As a SWAT officer, you had to carry only what was issued, and you better get proficient and comfortable with it in the streets, it'll save your life.
I still do my own gunsmithing and have some projects going, my old Colt Commander 70 series I got back from a retired homicide officer that I sold to him in 1982 was in very bad shape, but I restored it, and it's a good shooter today, just like the first day I got it in 1979.
Picture is of my 1911 before I cut it up, a picture of some of my handguns and my old Commander when I got it back. On the Firearms and Gun RP site, I posted the restore of the Commander. My project now is a RIA 1911 FS, changing some parts and Cerakoting it myself, I just learned how to hot Cerakote the other few weeks ago, going to post when I finish with it. Two of my 1911's are not in the pictures.
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SGT (Join to see) - Link to my Colt Commander restore.
https://www.rallypoint.com/status-updates/4204181
https://www.rallypoint.com/status-updates/4204181
Old Colt Commander's story, update 12-13-18 Well, first of all, I would like to acknowledge all...
Old Colt Commander's story, update 12-13-18 Well, first of all, I would like to acknowledge all you RP members who followed me in this Old Colt Commander restore journey. If you're new to the story, the first post was on 12-3-18 in the Firearms and Guns section on RP. The gun served in the Guam Police Narcotic's, Homicide divisions, and police street work close to 20 years, back since 1982. With eight actual hours work on my Old Colt...
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SPC David S.
SGT (Join to see) - awesome restores - may I ask who did you use. I working on an old S&W 38 M&P.
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SPC David S. - I just did it myself, I'm the guy that does everything, I even paint my own cars, and mechanical. My father a retired CPO Navy, always told me, "Try to do it yourself first before you ask someone else", he was a submariner, a veteran of WWII.
Picture is of my 04 Jeep I did last year, I bought it used with 96,000 miles on it, everything I did, took the whole Jeep apart.
I learned that if you do things yourself, you'll enjoy and appreciate the item more.
When you start firearm instructing, you'll appreciate your students when you get them proficient with their firearm, knowing that you did your best, and confident with your teachings.
Picture is of my 04 Jeep I did last year, I bought it used with 96,000 miles on it, everything I did, took the whole Jeep apart.
I learned that if you do things yourself, you'll enjoy and appreciate the item more.
When you start firearm instructing, you'll appreciate your students when you get them proficient with their firearm, knowing that you did your best, and confident with your teachings.
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Each state is different. In Texas you must take instructor certification course through the Depth. Of Public Safety. You should also seek other certifications such NRA Instructor Certification. Build up a resume of qualifications. You can never have too much training.
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