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You hear all the time 'you can add to, but not take away'. The question is actually to define this statement. Is the purpose to grammatically add to, but not take away? If so I can add a few specific words that would flip the reg on its head. Or is it add to in favor of the CoC? But in that case commands could do there word and get away with it. Maybe it's in favor of the SM? But then you breed...
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A Commander (thanks SGM Erik Marquez ) can make a regulation more stringent (add to) but not take away (relieve people of obligation to follow it in part or in the whole of the regulation's spirit or letter).
There is a process to change regulations, doctrine, and other official publications by submitting a DA Form 2028. Same Form is also to change an MTOE or TDA (have fun storming the castle on that one).
There is a process to change regulations, doctrine, and other official publications by submitting a DA Form 2028. Same Form is also to change an MTOE or TDA (have fun storming the castle on that one).
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SGT (Join to see)
Rgr Sir, I am not looking at changing any specific regulation. I am just curious to see what comes from this post.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SGT (Join to see) - well, there is a way to have a reg changed, it is just not a slam dunk and it takes years. The consolidated comments from the field (via 2028 and other venues) are collected by the staff proponent for the reg. When it comes up for periodic review or a CSA or SMA directed review, the comments are presented, some analysis done, and proposed changes made. The proposed changes are then staffed with stakeholder staffs and selected MACOMs. Then it is integrated and published.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SGT (Join to see) - please see what I responded to with SSG (P) Unger. The add to part is within a Commander's authority, because of their responsibility to maintain discipline and steward resources. They do that through orders, policies, and SOP.
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A: Sergeant, you can not add anything.
B: Your commander can add to make a reg more restrictive, but can not relieve you of a reg requirement
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Sm may wear underwear on the outside of the ACU uniform if not in formation.
Commander Bob can ADD to that "Sm may wear underwear on the outside of the ACU uniform if not in formation, and inside their living quarters not in plain view of any fellow service member, DOD civilian, Federal employee, Dependant or small animals.
Commander BOB can not take away.. "Sm may wear underwear on the outside of the ACU uniform to include in formation"
B: Your commander can add to make a reg more restrictive, but can not relieve you of a reg requirement
Ar671.1_EM
Para 4.9
Sm may wear underwear on the outside of the ACU uniform if not in formation.
Commander Bob can ADD to that "Sm may wear underwear on the outside of the ACU uniform if not in formation, and inside their living quarters not in plain view of any fellow service member, DOD civilian, Federal employee, Dependant or small animals.
Commander BOB can not take away.. "Sm may wear underwear on the outside of the ACU uniform to include in formation"
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SGT McClure,
I don't think the term is meant to be applied to the regulations themselves, but serves as a guide for leader's when they are writing things like SOP's and Policy Letters. They have to be sure that in the application of such documents, the regulation is not violated, nor takes away from the purpose of the Reg (if that makes sense).
So, to answer your question, I don't think this guide applies to writing regulation, grammatically, but serves its purpose when writing policy.
I don't think the term is meant to be applied to the regulations themselves, but serves as a guide for leader's when they are writing things like SOP's and Policy Letters. They have to be sure that in the application of such documents, the regulation is not violated, nor takes away from the purpose of the Reg (if that makes sense).
So, to answer your question, I don't think this guide applies to writing regulation, grammatically, but serves its purpose when writing policy.
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SGT (Join to see)
Rgr SSG, in a perfect world that would be the best answer. But we live and operate amongst selfish and narrow-minded individuals that would burn the organization to the ground if it served them any benefit.
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And being that many of thouse kind of individuals are in leadership positions, how do the upcoming leaders define and develop this into possibly an actual regulation, or guide our organization in the morale direction it needs to go?
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LTC Jason Mackay
SGT (Join to see) - that all resides in AR600-20 under the responsibility of Commanders and their authority given them. The support channel and chain of command are both prescribed in 600-20.
I would also say that every commander, has a commander. Every senior, has a senior.
I would also say that every commander, has a commander. Every senior, has a senior.
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