What is the regulation on retracting a granted leave request?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:56:04 -0400

Situation: 6 guys have requested, been approved by the rear D CMD, and received a control number, for leave for 1 Aug-14 Aug. My soldiers have already made plans as we are only a week out. I am now being told by the rear D SMG that their leave days are wrong. How ever his signature is on some of the paperwork previously approving it. How do I approach this situation, and what is the AR's guidance?

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Jul 25 at 2017 12:02 PM

SGT Bryon Sergent — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:02:13 -0400

Very carefully! AR 600-8-10. Hope the link works.

http://www.ssi.army.mil/ncoa/AGS_SLC_ALC_REGS/AR%20600-8-10.pdf

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Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2017 12:11 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:11:19 -0400

The AR is AR 600-8-10. But, the closest I can find within that regulation is:

Section VII
Task: Recalling Soldier from Leave
10–13. Rules to recall soldier from leave
a. The commander is the recall authority when soldiers are on authorized leave and are needed for return to duty for reasons of military necessity.
b. If travel and transportation allowances are authorized (JFTR, Vol 1, U4105 or U7220–A through U7720–D) orders will be used to recall soldiers (see AR 600–8–105). Direct travel questions to the local travel or transportation officer.

Again, I'm not sure if this fits your situation, but it's the closest I can find.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2017 12:12 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:12:04 -0400

Unless the rear-d SGM is willing to go to the commander and have him put out a memo revoking those solders' leaves, if I were one of the six, I'd sign out on leave anyway. Verbal just isn't going to cut it after a written approval. Ask the SGM what he means by "their leave days are wrong"??

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Jul 25 at 2017 12:29 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:29:48 -0400

1st your not on leave until you sign out. Before that all you have is a request and an approval, which can be revoked at anytime by the approver for any reason they so deem justified. (Note I said approver, of which the CSM is not, but Id bet he is acting IAW the commanders knowledge or direction)
2nd, you can be recalled from leave at any time the commander deems it justified.
Ar 600-8-10 Section VII
10–13. Rules to recall Soldier from leave
a. The commander is the recall authority when Soldiers are on authorized leave and are needed for return to duty for reasons of military necessity.

You will note there is no AR definition of "military necessity" so the reason could be, the SM failed to clean his assigned barracks room as ordered before leave, to the Married SM failed to cut his grass as so directed before leave, to the Sm in question needs to be interviewed as part of an investigation he is a material witness. All the way to Mission change and the SM in question is a vital asset to the mission. Unit tasked to move and set up BOTH assigned JNN, and they have only TWO qualified 25S capable of accomplishing the task...No other unit in the area has a 25S to spare and the mission was tasked from higher HQ ...Guess who is getting called off leave......
http://www.apd.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/r600_8_10.pdf

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Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2017 12:45 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:45:08 -0400

The commander giveth, and the commander taketh away.
The Command NCO does not have authority to say no, but he is likely acting under orders from the commander who does. And the commander absolutely has authority to recall Soldiers from leave, deny it in the first place, or change his mind on leave already granted.
What he SHOULD do is communicate the reason why.
Sounds like an opportunity to use the open door policy. There is still time to figure this out for all or at least some of your Soldiers.