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I replied to a question a few months ago on the subject... there was a soldier in a combat arms MOS that decided to transition to female.
As far as I know females aren't allowed to serve in combat arms, he/she enlisted for, and re-enlisted for an MOS that excludes females and then wants to become female? Sorry, you signed a contract... you gave up your right to choose.
What really offends me is when someone asks for DOD to pay for their elective crap. You want Viagra? Pay for it out of your own pocket. The military has no room for an entitlement mentality.
As far as I know females aren't allowed to serve in combat arms, he/she enlisted for, and re-enlisted for an MOS that excludes females and then wants to become female? Sorry, you signed a contract... you gave up your right to choose.
What really offends me is when someone asks for DOD to pay for their elective crap. You want Viagra? Pay for it out of your own pocket. The military has no room for an entitlement mentality.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Females are allowed in combat arms since last year. Maybe the year before. But they are allowed. It was all over the news when it happened. So she did have the ability to choose that MOS and if she qualified have it.
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SPC David Hannaman
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Good news! I served with some men who were real pussies, and some women who were bad ass bitches. I give a damn what someone's gender or sexual preference is, can I count on them to do their job is my concern.
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Patently unfair, and unnecessary. The Services spent literally tens of millions of dollars training these people only to discharge them?
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MAJ John Douglas
"Fair" was not in my contract. Hurt feelings were not in my contract. Doing my own thing was not in my contract. Maybe you got something different?
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I dont think it is fair for transgender jerks to get out of deployment
l because they joined to avoid the cost and have the military pic up the bill for their transformation which takes funds away from the readiness of the rest of the troops I dont think it is fair for any vet to have to deal with transgenders taking funds away from everyone's medical funds in order to transform them to whatever they think that they should have been being transgender or lgbt is a choice not a mistake of birth and the choices of those affect the moral and welfare of the entire unit physically and mentaly I have had family members and friends sent on deployment to replace these treasonous frauds because of being on therapy
l because they joined to avoid the cost and have the military pic up the bill for their transformation which takes funds away from the readiness of the rest of the troops I dont think it is fair for any vet to have to deal with transgenders taking funds away from everyone's medical funds in order to transform them to whatever they think that they should have been being transgender or lgbt is a choice not a mistake of birth and the choices of those affect the moral and welfare of the entire unit physically and mentaly I have had family members and friends sent on deployment to replace these treasonous frauds because of being on therapy
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Alot of people have an opinion on this ban. My response is this if you are trans gender that is your choice, however the mission in the Military will always come first. Those who are non deployable for a length of time are separated and due to the treatment you can become non deployable for a long length of time. If this offends you i am sorry until there is more done on this it wont change, if you can not complete the mission and the military says you can not deploy you can not serve regardless. Someone who can deploy needs to be in that slot preparing their Soldiers for the next mission.
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Very good point, in the end i am for whatever is best for the mission, there is always several people top to bottom who have no place in the ranks due to status or health, nothing is personal just i feel that there needs to be more guidance on this process. How long exactly is the non deploy because there has been several different positions as well as what is the time before one can conduct this process? Thank you for the response this is not ment to be disrespectful but finding out what people in the ranks think.
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SPC David Hannaman
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Good point, but you cited examples where transition does not effect ability to perform duty, Which was SPC Gaudette's point.
I served back in the early '90's. One of my best friends was lesbian, very masculine, worked in the motor pool, no problem performing duty whatsoever. She didn't call herself transgender, but she sure fit the profile.
The ban is too sweeping and will probably lead to a witch hunt. For that reason it's stupid. It would have been much better to set a policy to "transition out of the military, service members who are permanently unable to perform their duty" you know, like they do with people unable to pass their PT test, or get their weight within regulation.
I served back in the early '90's. One of my best friends was lesbian, very masculine, worked in the motor pool, no problem performing duty whatsoever. She didn't call herself transgender, but she sure fit the profile.
The ban is too sweeping and will probably lead to a witch hunt. For that reason it's stupid. It would have been much better to set a policy to "transition out of the military, service members who are permanently unable to perform their duty" you know, like they do with people unable to pass their PT test, or get their weight within regulation.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SPC David Hannaman - There is no ban. No policy has been changed. The POTUS can't change policy via Twitter. He has to send his plan to the SECDEF and the SECDEF will decide.
How did she fit the profile of transgender? I wasn't aware there was a "profile" for transgender. She just happened to be what is referred to as a very "butch" lesbian. That's it. There are masculine looking women who aren't homosexual or transgender and feminine looking men who are neither.
No what he should have done is talk to the damn DoD before he did this. Not just blast it on Twitter.
How did she fit the profile of transgender? I wasn't aware there was a "profile" for transgender. She just happened to be what is referred to as a very "butch" lesbian. That's it. There are masculine looking women who aren't homosexual or transgender and feminine looking men who are neither.
No what he should have done is talk to the damn DoD before he did this. Not just blast it on Twitter.
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SPC David Hannaman
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - All this uproar is about a tweet?! Sweet baby Jesus... when are we going to learn to ignore the man.
"She just happened to be what is referred to as a very "butch" lesbian." All due respect... you don't know my friend.
I have transgender friends, most are female to male, a few male to female. There's a lot of talk about them being "psychologically unstable" Oh please... I know plenty of psychologically unstable, one has nothing to do with the other.
"She just happened to be what is referred to as a very "butch" lesbian." All due respect... you don't know my friend.
I have transgender friends, most are female to male, a few male to female. There's a lot of talk about them being "psychologically unstable" Oh please... I know plenty of psychologically unstable, one has nothing to do with the other.
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