What job opportunities are best for an Infantryman/11B/grunt after being discharged?

SSG Carlos Madden — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:47:48 -0400

What are some fields and occupations where others have been successful? Is there anything that an 11B has been particular good at once they get into the civilian sector?

Or maybe even particular companies that really "get" what an 11B has gone though and taken the appropriate time and training to make them successful?

Any guidance or thoughts about Infantryman transitioning back into the workforce is welcomed.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 10:53 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:53:05 -0400

Having had a 2 year break in service and going into the job market, almost nothing. One shitty thing is when you talk about deployments and such in a civilian setting they just assume you have PTSD...it's pretty infuriating.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 10:57 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:57:05 -0400

It's very slim for infantry out there. When it comes to Law Enforcement, I have seen both sides - those who love infantry, and those who loathe infantry.

But I tell you this, unless going LE then have your resume say "Soldier/Team Leader/Manager" instead of "Machinegunner".

Response by SFC Michael Whipple made Aug 18 at 2015 11:00 AM

SFC Michael Whipple — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:00:40 -0400

I have only done two jobs since I retired, and I can say my top no-no is retail. I worked retail for a little over a year, and my mentality from combat arms to civilian was not a good match. I was then introduced to a survey company, I interviewed and I like to think based on my military background, I was hired. It was 5 days a week, I never worked a weekend, but there was a lot of travel time. Benefits were limited, but thanks to the VA, my medical was taken care of. I am in the process of relocating and I hope to find a survey company up north to work for.
My opinion: retail has the potential to be a showstopper, the hours are not predictable and you must have a lot of patience. Surveying is similar to land navigation, easy to learn, and not very strenuous.

Response by SGT Joseph Curl made Aug 18 at 2015 11:03 AM

SGT Joseph Curl — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:03:56 -0400

I think it depends more on your personal qualifications and skill set. The things that make you stand out as an individual will assist you more in the transition to civilian work. Check for clearance jobs, security contractors, and emergency response jobs if you are looking for something that might give preference to your infantry experience. I ended up in quality for a supplier to the auto industry. I know guys that are keeping greens on golf courses. That's why I say it really depends on personal qualifications. Don't let what you do in the service determine what you do when you get out.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 11:09 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:09:06 -0400

Carlos,
Besides the obvious choices of law enforcement and personal security I would suggest two fields. Sales and Operations.
Sales of the products you know and love to the customers you know and live to serve. Firearms, tactical supply, flashlights, optics ECT. I can tell you from experience, you make more money, love what you do and no one is shooting at you. Look at my LinkedIn profile and see my background.
Operations is a natural fit for someone who can see more than 5 feet on front of them and understands that it takes communication and efforts from all areas to reach the desired destination. Many civilians learn that and can maneuver in that space over time, but our war fighters get it better than anyone else and have had to live throu success and failures when it was applied or not applied.
You will need a little polishing on the civilian interface. They are not all stupid, slow and can't make decisions. On the contrary, they have just lived a different lifestyle that has had very different consiquence base realities. I can offer more insite here. Connect on LinkedIn with me and get a good profile going. You will need some sales experience. Maybe start with Outdoorhub.com. Check out some jobs there and see what's on the market. For the best sales "Acadamy" I would recommend working for Grainger Industrial Supply to get started. Very profesional and they will invest heavily in you if you can get hired on.
Reach out to me if I can help. LinkedIn James Riley Blackhart

Response by SPC(P) Jay Heenan made Aug 18 at 2015 11:09 AM

SPC(P) Jay Heenan — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:09:35 -0400

Don't look at your military experience as a 11B and try to relate directly to the civilian sector. You have skills by being a Soldier and an NCO that you can use and get into whatever field you want to be in once you no longer wear the uniform everyday. Leadership, problem solving, being able to work on a team, being able to work independently, time management, the list goes on and on. Your resume will reflect the characteristics that the employer is looking for. Wishing you nothing but the best for your future. God Bless.

Response by Sgt Mathew Meyer made Aug 18 at 2015 11:10 AM

Sgt Mathew Meyer — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:10:34 -0400

EVERYTHING is an opportunity for a Grunt. Whether digging ditches or becoming a litigation attorney (like I did), there is nothing you can't do. A good friend of mine in the Grunts eventually became Executive VP/CIO of Jos. A. Banks after going to school for IT. And of course my good friend John Baker, who retired as a Gunny and is now a criminal defense attorney and veterans' advocate. Don't settle for what profession others want to pigeon hole you into as a Grunt, just focus on what you want to do and do it. If you are a post-9/11 grunt you have plenty of education benefits and other resources to pursue your education. Don't lose the opportunity.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Aug 18 at 2015 11:10 AM

MSG Brad Sand — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:10:38 -0400

Law Enforcement but any high stress, leadership intensive career would...or at least should...value your experience.
My guidance, figure out what you love and enjoy. Now go out and do that. Pray about it, meditate about it and then make a plan and do it. You have the GI Bill if it requires training. No one can answer what is right for you but you. What is right for you?

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Aug 18 at 2015 11:31 AM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:31:27 -0400

Soldier for the Corleone family? :-)

All kidding aside, I think 1LT Scott Doyle hit it on the head with the leadership aspect. There's generally nothing between you and that soldier you're leading in an infantry squad. It's a face to face and face-in-face leadership style that differs from other MOSs. MPs (I'll use this because that's where the majority of my experience is) rely on less direct leadership at the squad level and more of a, "Here's the mission, I trust your going to do this and do it right" approach based on the nature of the beast. You send out 3 man teams in armed vehicles to recon routes and escort convoys and even though the squad leader does a similar job, they can't immediately reach out and touch the vehicle next to them directly. Both approaches are effective, just different. Infantry rely a lot more on non-verbal communications to get their job done. You rehearse it and rely on seeing eyes and faces to ascertain understanding and direction to initiate or cease action.

I would venture to say HR, sales, counseling, instructing or teaching - anything where reading and affecting people directly comes into play.

Best of luck in your quest!

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 11:50 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:50:08 -0400

There are tons of Federal and state jobs available. I'm planning on working as a park warden back home.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Aug 18 at 2015 11:55 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:55:29 -0400

Law Enforcement, mall security, and.....ummmmm.....

Response by MAJ Rod Harden made Aug 18 at 2015 12:05 PM

MAJ Rod Harden — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:05:35 -0400

That self-starter, never quit attitude can translate to almost any endeavor; however, I would like to recommend one of the best small business opportunities available today - becoming a Farmers Insurance Agency Owner. You get to be your own boss as well as make a real difference in your community and in the lives of your fellow citizens. If you have interest - please visit http://www.becomeafarmersagent.com/

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Aug 18 at 2015 12:14 PM

SGT Bryon Sergent — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:14:18 -0400

Slim to none. Stay in and get a degree in something that will help when you get out. Electrical engineering or something?

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 12:15 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:15:20 -0400

I would focus less on your Infantry skills and focus more on your Army skills. Your Army skills are vast and most civilians don't have the same skills or it takes them 20 years to develop. Leadership, integrity, mission completion, task orientated, quick learner. If you think about your time in the Army you were thrown into many different situations and each time you were successful - that means a lot to a civilian employer but you have to get all of the military jargon out of it.

A lot of Soldiers say I deployed 4 times when they should say on 4 separate occasions I was sent to a unknown location to set up operations. I took a team of __ personnel and within __ days we transformed the setup location from nothing to fully operational. Once operational we started to build an infrastructure that would support bigger team and a larger support team.

You have the skill sets to be better than the majority of workers in the field already - you just have to go and let everyone know it.

Response by SFC Douglas Duckett made Aug 18 at 2015 12:22 PM

SFC Douglas Duckett — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:22:25 -0400

Infantrymen are the "Jack of all Trades and the Master of None"; that is what sets us apart. Generally, our IQ is better than average and we like extreme diversity in our routine. We are quick to learn new skills and take our mission seriously. This makes us great candidates for just about anything. Basically, you set the tone for what you want to do. Some things might take additional training / education, but that's no big deal. After my medical retirement, I ended up in government services within the Human Resource and Case Management fields; who would have thought.

Response by SGT Brandon Bergeron made Aug 18 at 2015 12:31 PM

SGT Brandon Bergeron — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:31:25 -0400

there's all sorts of jobs out there just depending on what you want to do what comes down to it. I'm and 11B and 19D and I work in the aerospace industry. Before that i was a correctional officer. Do not sell yourself short.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 12:41 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:41:09 -0400

Use chapter 30 vocational rehab pip fitting and bricklaying pay very well even for journeymen

Response by SFC Jose Rivas made Aug 18 at 2015 12:44 PM

SFC Jose Rivas — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:44:54 -0400

It will all depend on your level of experience while in the military. As a previous employee of Dept of Homeland Security working for Immigrations Customs and Enforcement (ICE). I was given opportunities working as a Human Resources Assistant to move up the ladder that ICE provides those to become ICE agents. I turned it down twice and was glad I did. I just wanted to relax and be able to go home at 1600 and have a set schedule...that was just me

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 12:45 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:45:22 -0400

Law Enforcment, try to progress and join the SWAT team, that's where your 11B skills will be put to use the most

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Aug 18 at 2015 12:47 PM

Maj Chris Nelson — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:47:46 -0400

11B, Infantry...has no real equivalent on the civilian side. My recommendation would be to ask yourself a couple of "leading questions":
1. What do YOU want to do? What role do you want to play?
2. Do I need specific education for that? If so, WHAT? Where can I get it?
3. How do I write my resume for those positions I want? Performing close quarters clearing of occupied Iraq is going to be less desirable to most employers then something that focuses on your levels of responsibility, time management, leadership, accountability, project (mission) completion.... It is all about how you phrase it!

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 1:13 PM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:13:38 -0400

There are employers out there who really value leadership, especially experience obtained in high stress environments. That is a real positive for many in the general combat arms world. I compare many of my MBA classmates to my the junior NCOs I served with when I was a Scout PL on a leadership experience basis, and my NCOs win hands down. Some of my junior enlisted would have as well. That is the good news.

The other less talked about thing that many combat arms folks have gotten over the last few years is experience working with foreigners. The train and assist missions, JCETs, and joint training exercises give us interaction with other cultures that many of our civilian peers don't have. Many of us have taken away both the good and the bad of other cultures and have learned how to work with others who are different than us. The economy and the job market is global. Showing the propensity to work cross culturally is very valuable to multi-national corporations.

These previous two points cut across industries. Don't feel limited to other jobs that involve guns and violence. Many civilians can be taught to be a badass with a gun (at least to the level required by police and security). Sell your skills that result from your experiences and are not easy to replicate.

The bad news is that I see many Soldiers leave the Army and expect that employers should just understand what we bring to the table. It is that expectation that probably inhibits many veteran job seekers. Veterans must translate their experience into language understandable to those they interview with. That is easier said than done, so here are some of my ideas for bridging this gap.

- (Educate) Invest in yourself: Use your education benefits while still in the military to study the field you want to get into. As you study and learn, ask yourself how your experiences would benefit a company. Learn how the companies in the industry are organized and figure out what would be the equivalent level of leadership that you have had. Be able to explain how your experience sets you up for that similar level of leadership.
- (Network) Join Linkedin: LinkedIn has a large military community, including a very robust veterans community. Seek out veterans with a similar background who are in the industry you want to be in. There will be some. Ask them how they did it. Ask them for advice. Ask them for more contacts. People will connect you with others who can better answer your questions. Hand out name cards and take business cards. For every card your given, make sure you send out an email to keep the connection going.
- (Recon) Trade Shows, Professional Conferences, Corporate Campuses: Recon is just as important for job seeking as it is for raiding an objective. It might cost you a little, but get out to conferences, workshops, trade shows, and corporate campuses as applicable. Being around the folks who you want to work with someday can help you gain an understanding of what skills you can play up and what skills you should try to work on. The added benefit is that while doing your recon, you can also work on your networking. As a note, some of these options might cost some money, but in the long run are probably worth it.

Just some thoughts. Prepare yourself and be able to market yourself, don't expect employers to do the work for you.

Response by Sgt William Biggs made Aug 18 at 2015 1:26 PM

Sgt William Biggs — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:26:01 -0400

I have found that investigative and business oriented work love infantrymen. The dedication to duty, professionalism, and desire to lead are huge values in those areas. I know first hand as I am an infantryman in an investigative position, and my employer specifically stated such. Hope that helps!

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Aug 18 at 2015 2:10 PM

SGT Michael Glenn — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:10:12 -0400

When I separated I had completed numerous correspondence courses ( believe thats what the things were called) and thought I was good to go because thats what my chain had told me I needed to gain a foot hold in college when I got out and used the GI bill. I did them up until my actual ETS date. The result... I was almost overly qualified as a custodial engineer!!!! That's Janitor to all us plain speaking folk !!! I wound up going into security and even found a company in Seattle that was willing to hire me on the spot at a top supervisor position. I am sure there are many other experiences from brothers and sisters and I believe it all just comes down to what you choose to do after separation.

Response by SGT William Howell made Aug 18 at 2015 2:23 PM

SGT William Howell — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:23:42 -0400

Knowing what I do about the infantry I would say do what makes you happy. You have received a bunch of skills that you may not be even be aware of. Leadership, perseverance, attention to detail, loyalty, and discipline are just a few. Those are all things that an employer is looking for. I was a contractor for several years when I finally had to grow up and get a real job. The economy was bad. I took a sales job with employer was hiring vets because there were not getting the skills I stated above from college grads. There are more and more of those type of employers out there now.

A couple things I can suggest. Get a resume together now. Use key words like lead, supervised, in charge of. Have somebody help you out with it that knows how to do resumes. Be truthful, but don't hold back on accomplishments. You have to stand out from Joe College. Don't sell yourself short. Apply for higher paying jobs that you may not be as qualified for. There may be a vet in HR that will give you a look because of your service. If you are willing to move there are plenty more opportunities than going back to your home town. Look at USA Jobs. It is a Fed job site that has lots of good jobs.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 2:37 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:37:58 -0400

There is always Civilian Infantry. That is pretty much what I do. I am part of a Security Force at Nuclear Facility. It pays very well and we are armed with M4s and M9s. We train often and shoot a lot. We have war games with blanks and SIMS, and even do battle drills. It is the closest thing thing to infantry you could do as a civilian. I was also a police officer for while. I think being infantry caters to this by being able to react to an extremely violent situation. There has been times where I had to go hands on with a person in a split second. The only other place were that can happen is in the Army and more so in the infantry. A lot of infantry are desensitized so when we see some of the more violent situations we feel as if we are dealing with another mundane situation. I have seen some freak out for something small due to their lack of being exposed to violence in the real world. Then if there is a shoot out I am sure any police force would want a infantry combat veteran to use their knowledge to end the situation.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 2:42 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:42:46 -0400

If you have any team leading experience, reflect it on your resume!

For the most part. Companies like the essential skills we have. Loyalty, Respect, Honor, and Integrity.
They know that when we commit to something, we are likely to get it done. And it doesn't fully matter in what we apply for. They know we are "team players" with lots of potential for their company.
With that being said. Just be ready to back up your words!

If you are not interested in doing "grunt work" in the civilian sector. Try to get as much education in what you really like, and want to do.
At the very least. Try to get into a trade school.

Response by Cpl Adam Gant made Aug 18 at 2015 3:17 PM

Cpl Adam Gant — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 15:17:44 -0400

I did every job from concrete to bar tending and back. Eventually I hooked up with an insurance company and started In the mailroom just to get benefits. 14 years later I have had 18 jobs at the same company and love what I do. They allowed me to try things and find paths where I could be successful. A lot of the larger companies have similar structure its up to you to prove yourself. Now I review and develop processes. I get to rethink and find better ways to do stuff. And leave each day feeling like I created something useful. Which is some of the few things we didn't get to do while We served.

Response by CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret) made Aug 18 at 2015 6:57 PM

CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret) — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:57:33 -0400

When I left active duty after four years as an 11B2P and 21 years old I thought the world was mine and everyone would jump at the chance to hire me - wrong. I began attending college and the only job I could get was as a security officer (other than flipping burgers). After about three years I decided I wanted to try a career in law enforcement. 21 years later, I retired. I will say my military experience (11B and then 97B as a reservist) gave me a leg up over others - I got 5 additional points in the application process and it definitely prepared me for the academy, which was much like basic training. A lot of folks left the moment the sergeant began yelling at people, others snuck out during the night. I hate to make it sound glum but that's what I experienced. Get an education. There are some good points provided by others here, especially regarding resumes. Be careful about using military jargon. You might also get lucky and find an employer here or on Linkedin. Best of luck to you!

Response by 1SG David Lopez made Aug 18 at 2015 8:20 PM

1SG David Lopez — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:20:38 -0400

Perfect fit for Security Officer at any Nuclear Facility. Also perfect for Police, Sheriff, Highway Patrol, and Corrections Officer. There is a lot of room for 11 Bang Bangs to promote and etc such as SWAT/CRT Teams, NMT, and so forth. Also Fire Fighters, EMT, etc. 11Bravos are first responder type material and will excell in these fields. Also perfect for the State Department, Border Patrol, DEA, Air Marshalls, depending on your training, education, and experience. One should consider their wants and needs. For example, after 20 years of 11B, I wanted to stay in one community and build roots. For me, I only applied to local and State jobs. If you still want to travel, a federal job may be right for you. FYI, The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) is hiring 7,000 Correctional Officers NOW! Please do yourself a favor and start the application process now, as it takes about a year and a half to land the job. Great pay and benefits. Professional Department. As much overtime as you want. 33 prisons across California, many more fire camps and administrative offices. If you know a Soldier getting out, tell him to start the application process now. Good Luck, and feel free to contact me about any information or help about CDCR. Hoo-Ah!

Response by PFC Ray C. Scheesley made Aug 18 at 2015 8:25 PM

PFC Ray C. Scheesley — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:25:58 -0400

When I left the Army as Light Infantry 11B, the only employment I was recruited for was with a Private Military Contractor. I personally believe that this employment is the only field work that directly correlates with 11B, which is a minimum requirement for hire as such. I agree with the others that give the advice to focus on the skills you learned in the Army as a whole, and not just Infantry skills. That being said, if you are planning on a career in the PMC world, you must accept the fact that it was more inheritingly hazardous than being 11B and it comes without the benefits of cohort training (you may be put with people from other countries) and limited medical coverage if you get wounded. I will say jokingly, that the death benefits were better than those of SGLI. (I almost learned this the hard way) Oh, I forgot to mention, you don't get a Purple Heart for being WIA or KIA as a PMC, either.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Aug 18 at 2015 11:02 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:02:58 -0400

I've seen tons of grunts in law enforcement. The big victory in being a grunt is that they are extremely hard-wired for mission success, so it doesn't matter what field they pursue. The problem is that civilian HR doesn't know this and take advantage of it.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 11:06 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:06:50 -0400

I say Law Enforcement is an excellent choice. There aren’t enough as it is. Infantrymen make great law enforcement officers. You get to continue to serve your country and your community. There are so many other options that are available to any service members, but this is my two cents. Choose what make you happy and go get it.

Response by SGT George Romiti made Aug 19 at 2015 12:42 AM

SGT George Romiti — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 00:42:52 -0400

Personal Trainer!
You get a lot of respect, and people dig it... Fit, healthy bad ass that will whoop you ass in to shape! They also have a great role model to look up too! plus a great physique if it's maintained of course!

Response by Cpl Ray Milano made Aug 19 at 2015 11:07 AM

Cpl Ray Milano — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:07:07 -0400

I agree with many of the prior comments. Many employers understand that the value in hiring a veteran is more related to the intangible qualities such as; teamwork, integrity, mission focused, adaptability, ability to manage and leadership skills. Below is a VA website that assists with translating military skills to the civilian world.
https://www.ebenefits.va.gov/ebenefits/jobs

Response by SFC Timothy Dutcher made Aug 19 at 2015 1:06 PM

SFC Timothy Dutcher — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:06:57 -0400

I think it would be better to ask you what you want to do and what are you particularly good at? Is there a job or career in the civilian sector meeting those answers? Do they require training or education? When you have figured out what you really want to do, then a more appropriate question would be how did your military experiences give you an advantage in that field? Finding a career you will appreciate will be a lot easier than finding a career that appreciates a MOS. If you don't know, use transition resources available to you like aptitude tests and other interest based features giving you a clue in areas you are most interested in. Life isn't so hard when you are doing something you love doing.

Response by SGT Christopher Berger made Aug 19 at 2015 10:00 PM

SGT Christopher Berger — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:00:44 -0400

So I can not speak for everybody but I feel a Trade is a good way to go I was an HVAC mechanic/Technician prior to joining and it had a similiar atmosphere with working in teams to get the JOB done. I feel as an infantryman we wing some things due to a constant changing enviroment and that skill is something you can take to any workforce. It really depends on what you want to do sit at a desk or get your hands dirty I prefer working with the hands.

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made Aug 20 at 2015 10:26 AM

PFC Tuan Trang — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:26:29 -0400

I would say police or security field, because of the markman skill.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 11:00 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:00:33 -0400

Combat Arms teaches dicipline, tenacity, independence and a willingness to accomplish the missionunder any circumstance. These traits are priceless in life and in short supply in the civilain world. I think 11Bs would be good at any job.

Response by SFC Jenaro Arjemi made Aug 20 at 2015 1:58 PM

SFC Jenaro Arjemi — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:58:12 -0400

Whether you want to pursuit a career in law enforcement, security or logistics the key is education. The 2 most important benefits that the military provides is medical and education. If you retire medical is the best. If not, education will put you above your peers because you already comes with a set of skills that civilians don't have, a proven leader willing to accomplish the task given without the usual
complaining, a person that is trainable, willing to adapt and learn, and these skills are demonstrated after you are hired. So that college diploma is what is going to get you thru the door. After that is on you. Good luck to you and your love ones.

Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Aug 20 at 2015 2:08 PM

SSG Carlos Madden — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:08:26 -0400

Thank to everyone who responded. Hopefully this will help an 11B, Marine or any other service member seeking some professional direction from people who have had the experience. As SGT Joseph Curl stated, "Don't let what you do in the service determine what you do when you get out.” Here's a sample of your consolidated advise:

Go to School:
"If you are a post-9/11 grunt you have plenty of education benefits and other resources to pursue your education. Don't lose the opportunity.” - Sgt Mathew Meyer
"Don't let ACAP deter you. They're gonna say that the ditch digging, warehouse working or security guard are the options you have. Been there done that.” - SGT Jonathon Caldwell

Translate your resume:
- "... into number of people that you were responsible for and dollar
value of equipment that you were accountable for. They want to hear how you were able to coach, mentor, and develop … people bad-mouth ACAP but I believe you get out of it what you put into it. Using my NCOERs and OERs I was able to craft a pretty nice resume” - 1LT Scott Doyle
"Performing close quarters clearing of occupied Iraq is going to be less desirable to most employers then something that focuses on your levels of responsibility, time management, leadership, accountability, project (mission) completion” - Maj Chris Nelson
"Leadership, problem solving, being able to work on a team, being able to work independently, time management, the list goes on and on. Your resume will reflect the characteristics that the employer is looking for.” - SPC(P) Jay Heenan

"Get a resume together now. Use key words like lead, supervised, in charge of. Have somebody help you out with it that knows how to do resumes. Be truthful, but don't hold back on accomplishments. You have to stand out from Joe College.” - SGT William Howell

Some suggested occupations:

Sales and Operations: "Sales of the products you know and love to the customers you know and live to serve. Firearms, tactical supply, flashlights, optics ECT. I can tell you from experience, you make more money, love what you do and no one is shooting at you.” - SGM Private RallyPoint Member
"I have found that investigative and business oriented work love infantrymen. The dedication to duty, professionalism, and desire to lead are huge values in those areas” - Sgt William Biggs

Land surveying but stay away from retail: "retail has the potential to be a showstopper, the hours are not predictable and you must have a lot of patience. Surveying is similar to land navigation, easy to learn, and not very strenuous.” - SFC Michael Whipple
"Personal Trainer! You get a lot of respect, and people dig it... Fit, healthy bad ass that will whoop you ass in to shape!” - SGT George Romiti
"I say Law Enforcement is an excellent choice … Infantrymen make great law enforcement officers. You get to continue to serve your country and your community.” - 1SG Private RallyPoint Member
"Perfect fit for Security Officer at any Nuclear Facility. Also perfect for Police, Sheriff, Highway Patrol, and Corrections Officer. There is a lot of room for 11 Bang Bangs to promote and etc such as SWAT/CRT Teams, NMT, and so forth. Also Fire Fighters, EMT, etc. 11Bravos are first responder type material and will excel in these fields. Also perfect for the State Department, Border Patrol, DEA, Air Marshalls…The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) is hiring 7,000 Correctional Officers NOW! Please do yourself a favor and start the application process now, as it takes about a year and a half to land the job.” - 1SG David Lopez
"I am part of a Security Force at Nuclear Facility. It pays very well and we are armed with M4s and M9s. We train often and shoot a lot. We have war games with blanks and SIMS, and even do battle drills” - CPT Private RallyPoint Member

Response by SFC Alan Conrad made Aug 20 at 2015 3:04 PM

SFC Alan Conrad — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:04:19 -0400

College.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 5:10 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:10:41 -0400

SSG Madden, I hate to say it. But 11B isn't easily translated into many civilian jobs outside law enforcement, security or simular fields. But like others have said, if you leave the military with a degree it will greatly help your chances of landing a good job. There really isn't a lot of demand for killing in the civilian world. I faced the same issue leaving as a 19D.
Best of luck to you

Response by COL Charles Williams made Aug 20 at 2015 11:48 PM

COL Charles Williams — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 23:48:30 -0400

You have grit, leadership and management skills, discipline. You will have a leg up in many endeavors. I would recommend education, the GI Bill, as you chart your course. I believe education is the key. Many police departments value military service. Sgt Mathew Meyer said it very well.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 21 at 2015 2:33 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 02:33:32 -0400

While obvious choices are police and fire, I believe a former infantry Soldier (or Marine) would be an asset to any job that requires teamwork, self-confidence, leadership, decision-making, risk-taking and thinking on your feet. A successful infantry soldier, regardless of grade, needs all of these qualities. Especially, if the veteran take advantage of educational benefits, it should open up a world of opportunities.

Response by SPC Tony Tarone made Aug 21 at 2015 9:48 PM

SPC Tony Tarone — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:48:42 -0400

Maybe you should consider full-time college. Put the GI Bill that you earned to good use.

I was an MP and made the transition to Law Enforcement. I went through the a Georgia Police Adademy near Ft Benning that was 80% Infantry with several Rangers (and a few former Ranger instructors). I then used the GI Bill to work on a degree in Technology while working night shift in Henry County.

I've been in IT for nearly 18 years and have worked with high-level people who are veterans from just about every branch and MOS you can think of. Many of the most senior were once junior enlisted as well.

The Army gave you a solid foundation and some great benefits. Think long term and go do something great.

Good luck and remember you have a whole community of veterans here to help.

Tony Tarone

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 1:03 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:03:15 -0400

Great question

Response by SFC Michael Simmons made Aug 25 at 2015 1:07 PM

SFC Michael Simmons — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:07:40 -0400

I agree with those on the optimistic side. Do your own sole searching for what you want and enjoy doing - PERIOD - then determine what education or experience is needed for it! Project Management has certainly been my joy for nearly 20 years, and strangely enough does fall perfectly in line for an infantry soldier. Specifically with leadership experience gained, the complexities and stress of project work with balancing resources and time management, it's fun!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 1:08 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:08:50 -0400

I have found that operations management has suited me. I transitioned last May and have been pretty good doing this job. The only thing that you need to realize quickly is that civilian employees will not do what you tell them just because you tell them to do it. It took awhile to get used to it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 1:17 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:17:51 -0400

I left the Army about a year ago and have several ex-Infantry friends that are now either retired or discharged. If you qualify for VA vocational rehab I highly recommend to use it if you are in doubt of what to do ( Chapter 30) . Voc rehab will guide you in the right direction on how to continue your education or go into the civilian workforce. And of course your success of job opportunities depend strongly on where you live. I personally made sure I had a decent resume built and applied for state and government type employment. The US post office likes to hire veterans instead of civilians also if you would like to work as a prison guard being a veteran will get you hired quickly but personally i don't think that is good choice, too much bullshit there seriously with your military leadership experience that should only be last resort. Also i think unless you have been wanting to be a police officer all your life being a police officer is not any better than the Soldier life you already know about. There are state jobs and Govt. jobs out there go to the state job websites, they give preference to veterans. We have everything employers look for. There are also jobs at the VA hospitals. If you check with the Voc Rehab office they can get you in to those positions as Volunteers or work studies and you would get paid BAH at the rate of a E5 if you have not used all your GI Bill. The good part is if you sign up as a volunteer or work study you will get paid the BAH and have a good chance to get hired as a full time employee at the VA or a VA surrounding facility, they have several job opportunities that can lead to good salaries. I also believe the USAJOBS website is a waste of time by the time they post the jobs online they are already taken and you go months and months hoping to obtain a interview. For example the VA post jobs there but the VA volunteers and work study personnel will be offered this positions before they post them online. Sometimes you will have to relocate to another city or state to be able to find something you need like I did.

Response by COL Joel Mjolsness made Aug 25 at 2015 1:19 PM

COL Joel Mjolsness — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:19:14 -0400

Sales - it's the front lines - we just do not take incoming - at least not that often ;)

Response by SGT Darin Hayhurst made Aug 25 at 2015 1:28 PM

SGT Darin Hayhurst — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:28:16 -0400

Not a ton of options unless you are specialized (airborne, ranger, etc.). Basically you have to go to school unless you are a good sales person. I have a degree in CJ (not recommended...you can be a cop with an accounting degree, but not vice-versa) and was told by the head of veteran recruiting for Amazon that I "might want to check with Walmart" as so many companies recruiting vets are in the technical field.

Response by SSG Matthew Katz made Aug 25 at 2015 2:15 PM

SSG Matthew Katz — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:15:11 -0400

Expedition guide or wilderness emt. Look up NOLS national outdoor leadership school.

Response by SFC Stephen Smithers made Aug 25 at 2015 2:33 PM

SFC Stephen Smithers — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:33:43 -0400

Usajobs.gov

Response by Cpl Ron Ortiz made Aug 25 at 2015 3:18 PM

Cpl Ron Ortiz — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:18:55 -0400

When I EAS'd in 88 I had a couple of issues, I landed on my feet with Discount Tire Company, they were fully vested in me becoming a better person. I worked there 15 years and in the interim taught myself some technolgy. I now work for a supplemental foods program in the IT department. I'm looking at moving up the management ladder now that I have more IT experience. As an Infantry soldier I learned how to adapt and overcome, these are the two best life lessons I've ever learned. I believe America is holding on to the current situation cause young Americans stood up to the call, I feel that the Infantry soldiers processing out of active service will be the same ones to drive our country to the glory that once was.

Response by SFC Jay Needham made Aug 25 at 2015 3:20 PM

SFC Jay Needham — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:20:35 -0400

Unless you have a prior exp. or education to get you into a civilian position the employer that might get what is 11B right out of the box "might" be law enforcement, but you still would need to take some classes either at a community college or an academy. Unfortunately most civilians don't get the details and skills of what being 11B requires especially being an NCO. The training and care of your soldiers, the ability to multi task and coordination working in a combined arms combat team. Unfortunately too many employers have watched too many John Wayne movies. I was fortunate that when I left active duty I had experience in plastics and I was young enough that I could have 20 years and go into another carrier. Best of luck to you.

Response by CPL Eric Allen made Aug 25 at 2015 4:27 PM

CPL Eric Allen — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:27:26 -0400

when i first got out i took a look at my resume and was like do i put that i am good a sweeping floors or that the front leaning rest is my favorite position. nope i chose a different route i became a commercial truck driver and make really good money with really good benefits and still have not used my GI Bill

Response by LCpl James Robertson made Aug 25 at 2015 6:56 PM

LCpl James Robertson — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 18:56:56 -0400

Basically if you don't go back to college, most military infantry choose Law Enforcement, Firearms Instructor, gun smith, and Firefighters, there is a number of jobs you could choose, its whether you like being in a office environment, or working on the outside.

Response by SSgt Robert Warren made Aug 26 at 2015 3:09 AM

SSgt Robert Warren — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 03:09:36 -0400

I am a Production and Safety Manager for the largest Precast company in the US. As well as a 0311 for 10.5 years. I feel that the 03 field helps prepare employee's due to there discipline and leadership. I do not think there is a specific field that they are qualified for but that the opportunity's are endless. A good employer does not hire for experience but for attitude. I have over 130 employee's. I can teach them to do most anything but you can not teach Attitude, Discipline or Work ethic and those are the traits that best describe a grunt. When I hire I prefer Vets and especially grunts because I can train them to do the job and they already have leadership abilities that are Priceless in the work force today. If I was to give someone one advice that was getting out it would be to go into a field that they have a passion in and sell there leadership and Discipline at the interview.

Response by PFC Al Sethre made Aug 26 at 2015 12:26 PM

PFC Al Sethre — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:26:04 -0400

Going to college was a great transition after infantry life

Response by MSgt Jim Craig made Aug 26 at 2015 1:03 PM

MSgt Jim Craig — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:03:23 -0400

Hi everyone-
Here is an excellent study about what warriors bring to the market place. This can give you and edge in resume writing and interview questions.
National Defense Research Institute
"What Veterans Bring to Civilian Workplaces" 2015 date. Do a search and it comes up in PDF

JC
Mud Marine

Response by CPT Chris Williams made Aug 26 at 2015 1:09 PM

CPT Chris Williams — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0400

The best information you can put on your resume is "Leadership Management" You know how to manage people in difficult environments. You may want to expand on that statement along with your Army Values. In reference to Sgt Meyers comments on a previous day "EVERYTHING is an opportunity for a Grunt"

Response by SFC Jack Dilbeck made Aug 26 at 2015 1:23 PM

SFC Jack Dilbeck — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:23:28 -0400

The most important thing to consider is "what do you want to do?" Like you, I was an 11B retiring as an E-7. During my career in the Army, I went to school to prepare for teaching at the college level. I earned a bachelors and masters degree in business administration and positioned myself to teach management and general business courses. I taught part time until a full time position opened. After being hired full time, I earned a Ph.D. at my school's expense and am now serving as the chief planning officer for my current college.

I did not say all that to brag but rather illustrate that we grunts can accomplish virtually anything. The trick is to have a vision of what you can see yourself doing. Research what it takes in that career field and obtain the education\training needed. Also, don't sell yourself short, employers are desperate for people with strong work ethic and leadership skills. We are excellent problem solvers and work well in teams. We are exactly what employers want. You can teach nearly anyone technical skills for most jobs but that doesn't equate to getting the job done. Even if you have to take an entry level job to get your foot in the door, be prepared to move up quickly.

To recap, the critical piece is what do you want to do?

Response by SPC Joel Gabel made Aug 26 at 2015 2:13 PM

SPC Joel Gabel — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:13:38 -0400

Project Management - You have been doing it your entire career anyway

Response by Sgt Timothy Apel made Aug 26 at 2015 2:15 PM

Sgt Timothy Apel — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:15:55 -0400

College

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 2:17 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:17:07 -0400

Private security sector is a good start. I know a few guys that went that route

Response by SFC Mark Trees made Aug 26 at 2015 2:54 PM

SFC Mark Trees — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:54:18 -0400

Best is to utilize your education benefits and broaden your employment potential beyond the obvious LE and security options. I landed in an energy company looking for the skills I possess as a soldier and the training I completed after separating from the service.

Response by LTC Richard Cooper made Aug 26 at 2015 4:40 PM

LTC Richard Cooper — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:40:22 -0400

I would say that the opportunities for an ex-infantryman are only limited by the interests of the ex-infantryman. Some fields that immediately come to mind are police officer, security specialist, and firefigther. Some not so immediately apparent would be diplomatic security agent, Immigration and Customs, Border Patrol, US Bureau of Prisons, Treasury or IRS agent. I have known ex-infantrymen who have went on to become lawyers and members of the diplomatic service. The only limits are those you put on yourself.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 5:48 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:48:06 -0400

There are very few jobs an 11B can directly transfer to. Being an 11B is so far from any civilian job set that it makes you damn near unmarketable. However, the people who hire 11Bs do so because of the inherent qualifications that a successful 11B acquires in addition to their MOS tasks (leadership, time management, etc). The same goes with Special Forces 18Bs (Weapons Sergeants). Nobody cares you were an 18B and can fire any weapon known to man, what they want are your other skills. Being an 18B or 11B when paired with civilian certifications (like program manager) and/or a degree and suddenly you stand head and shoulders above your competition.

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Aug 26 at 2015 7:52 PM

1SG Michael Blount — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:52:41 -0400

Have you thought about law enforcement or physical security?

Response by SPC Sean Eichrodt made Aug 26 at 2015 8:46 PM

SPC Sean Eichrodt — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:46:27 -0400

I've done well for myself after being 11B, and that's in large part to the education that I got, but I also paid attention during ACAP, and figured out just how to write my resume and let potential employers (and potential clients when I ran an investigations firm) what skillset that I had. It's more than just a title that matters - it's about what you did. For example, "Kicked in doors, shot people in the head" is not a very good bullet point on a resume. "Operated as a member of a team resulting in a successful mission for our company" sounds much better. If you got a chance to be in S3, "Assisted in Operational Planning for over eight hundred personnel." Remember, saying, "Platoon, squad, batallion" means very little to civilians; they have no idea what numbers go along with that heirarchy. Also, as a SSG I imagine you were a squad leader at some point - "Supervised eight soldiers as their second line supervisor" and elaborate on that as well in other bullet points - "Conducted monthly and quarterly personnel review" "Conducted training and testing to ensure personnel readiness"

Again, your MOS has little to do with the jobs you can get - it's about attitude, it's about professionalism, it's about how you sell yourself to employers.

Response by SGT John Eberwine made Aug 26 at 2015 10:14 PM

SGT John Eberwine — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 22:14:06 -0400

I was 11b40 in one year of combat in Vietnam. I spent 25 years working for my County Government as a project manager. My leadership learned in the service, along with organizination, being a self starter, ability to work with architects or engineers and contractors especially if there were challenges to be worked through. Keeping a calm manner, taking charge when needed, earned me the respect of all I worked with. There are project manager or project administrators courses in many colleges. I started out keeping my outs shut and my ears open. When I did not know something, I never let anyone know. I would just say I'll consider both sides and have an answer the next day. After meetings, etc. I would go on the computer and research the area of concern. This way I could discuss with my boss, and form a plan that would work for all parties. Good luck. vietvet222!

Response by Capt Brandon Charters made Aug 27 at 2015 11:48 AM

Capt Brandon Charters — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:48:45 -0400

From what I know of 11 Bravos, they can definitely do it all. These guys have the "get it done" attitude to be successful anywhere. It's impressive to check out the RP 11B page and see what all these warriors are doing today.

Infantryman | RallyPoint

Infantryman

Response by SFC Donald Neal made Aug 29 at 2015 1:12 AM

SFC Donald Neal — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 01:12:57 -0400

Any job where working with others, building consensus, and leading from the front is a must. No matter what college you go to; there isn't a class that really gets you the experience of leading, inspiring, and looking out for young men and women in some of the most dynamic environments the world can put them in. You'll want to key in your abilities to plan, prepare, execute, analyze, adapt, create new opportunities, develop teams, building a highly motivated technically skilled workforce while ensuring adaptability to rapidly changing business conditions. That's just something combat arms troops forget about (gotta put it into civilian speak). Hope that helps. Good luck.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2015 11:25 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:25:51 -0400

During my break in service I had some success in the security field. I started off as a regular officer and in just a few months I was made a dispatcher. Then a few months later I was made a sergeant and my job was to inspect other guards. Eventually I was made a an inspecter of sergeants and was being offered more money and responsibility. I left the job to relocate to another state. But in only a year and a half I progressed very quickly because of what I had learned and experienced in the infantry.

Response by MAJ Richard McDonald made Sep 3 at 2015 8:36 PM

MAJ Richard McDonald — Thu, 03 Sep 2015 20:36:44 -0400

It isn't your MOS that matters to most industries outside of the military and DOD industry, it's what positions you held and what you personally accomplished. You need to think about leadership in terms of how many people you directly supervised and the scope of work. You would be surprised when you write what you were responsible for in terms of people and value of equipment you personally signed for even as a team leader.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 13 at 2015 11:10 AM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:10:32 -0400

I would look into law enforcement, firefighter, paramedic, EMT, and security.

Response by Cpl Keaton Russell made Oct 1 at 2015 6:10 PM

Cpl Keaton Russell — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 18:10:20 -0400

Law enforcement

Response by Cpl Keaton Russell made Oct 1 at 2015 6:12 PM

Cpl Keaton Russell — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 18:12:06 -0400

My career path was finishing college with my gi bill. I now work at SAP. One of the largest tech companies on earth. Reach out to me if you are looking for a similar path.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 1 at 2015 6:14 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 18:14:08 -0400

Fighting ISIS....

Response by Cpl Jon Westbrook made Jan 7 at 2016 3:04 AM

Cpl Jon Westbrook — Thu, 07 Jan 2016 03:04:07 -0500

Life is what you make it brother. I've known grunts that got out and are flipping burgers, I know Police Officers, Executive Security, I'm starting PreMed at Georgetown next year.

The point is, you've seen how shitty life can actually be. Yet you fought through adversity to accomplish the mission. And failing that, you did it just to get back to PB and sit on your ass smoking cigarettes. Be what you want to be brother, the world is your oyster if you're willing to work for it.

Response by PFC Richard E. Staats made Jul 9 at 2016 11:27 PM

PFC Richard E. Staats — Sat, 09 Jul 2016 23:27:14 -0400

11B with GT of 130+

Response by SGT Tony Long made May 13 at 2017 9:00 PM

SGT Tony Long — Sat, 13 May 2017 21:00:38 -0400

United States Postal Service but you have 90 days after separation to apply to take the exam. Don't miss it. Its a great living!

Response by MGySgt Clint Pearman made Sep 20 at 2017 1:38 PM

MGySgt Clint Pearman — Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:38:34 -0400

Entrepreneurial ship: Every major characteristic necessary to be a successful entrepreneur is already embedded in the typical successful infantry unit leader (E-6 and above). We may not have all the skills necessary, but skills can be learned, what we already possess are the characteristic of the successful entrepreneur.

However, because of the steady and secure pay check we become used to in the military; this mindset gets in the way of taking the chance at going into business for yourself (its not that difficult). I learned in 1988 as a Drill Instructor, how to start my own leadership training company teaching the Marine Corps leadership traits and principles; (go figure) it was the only thing I knew that I thought I could charge money for, and people paid me to learn it. Then I develop a network of others that taught others how to start their own part-time business (many AD Marines and Sailors in southern CA). This grew into a success coaching practice and now a company that trains people nationwide to become successful health and wellness coaches.

The following 9 characteristics of successful entrepreneurs was taken off Monster.com. Notice 8 of the 9 describe the typical infantry squad leader, only #4 needs to be learned. What do you think?
1. Motivation
2. Creativity and Persuasiveness
3. Versatility
4. Superb Business Skills
5. Risk Tolerance
6. Drive
7. Vision
8. Flexibility and Open-Mindedness
9. Decisiveness
Any infantry squad leader can start a successful entrepreneurial venter if the approach it like a Plt Sgt getting ready to deploy back to a combat zone.
Ref: https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/entrepreneur-traits

Here are nine traits you should possess to be successful as an entrepreneur.

Entrepreneurs tend to have some core characteristics that help make them successful. Here are nine traits you should possess to launch your own business.

Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made Sep 20 at 2017 2:54 PM

Sgt Wayne Wood — Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:54:37 -0400

you are your only limitation. skills can be learned, education can be gotten. as you should have learned many times during your training, you can do much more than you think you can.

Response by Georgeann Carter made Sep 20 at 2017 3:15 PM

Georgeann Carter — Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:15:29 -0400

The skills and life lessons taught in the military have trained you for many occupations!!!! Wishing the you very best in finding your passion, if telecommunications ends up on your list, please reach out and I will gladly connect you with a qualified recruiter!!!

Response by SSG Greg Roberts made Feb 9 at 2018 5:25 PM

SSG Greg Roberts — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:25:16 -0500

From my experience, the civilian world really doesn't care what your MOS was, unless it was a specific skill that you are trying to use after the military. If you were an electrician in the Navy, then you will have a leg-up on an Electrician job. If you were an Infantryman, you will most likely be recognized for your general service.
I was 11B, and since I ETS'd, I have been working in municipal water and sewer for 20 years. My old 11B friends now work at power plants, prison guards, IT geniuses, cops, Electricians, an NYC Metro bus driver, and construction workers. None of them have jobs with any 11B-needed training.
Did any of those guys mold their skill set in the Infantry? Yes and no. It molds the man.

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Mar 8 at 2018 10:06 PM

MSG John Duchesneau — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 22:06:51 -0500

I view being an 11B as a good foundation. You should decide on a career you want to pursue and then get working on the education you need to get it.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Mar 23 at 2018 7:27 AM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:27:26 -0400

Security guard comes to mind.

Response by CPL Thomas Artiaga made May 8 at 2018 3:31 AM

CPL Thomas Artiaga — Tue, 08 May 2018 03:31:26 -0400

I have found through my own experience that we tend to make good managers. This will likely require you to eventually go to college and get a degree in management. You will go far in almost any area as a manager. Most people think I'll become a cop I will tell you this for some reason cops like to see themselves as military but once you're in the military you will realize you're nothing like a cop. They are wannabes and Pretenders but they're not real soldiers or Marines. Cops believed that they right to come home alive every night. They believe that if they're scared for their life they're just allowed to shoot anybody... That is why they are not soldiers or Marines, because soldiers and Marines do not have that option to Simply kill every time they're scared. That being said we need police I'm not disparaging them I'm simply saying there is a huge distinction between police and soldiers... so do not believe that because you are Soldier you are a perfect fit to be a cop, because clearly they are not a perfect fit to be a soldier or Marine. As 11 Bravo you are typically a natural leader going to any area you can familiarize yourself with, and learn that area and just take charge. You are 11 Bravo that means once you get out you can be anything you want to be and you will be better than most or least equal to the best.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2018 11:35 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:35:36 -0400

Don't limit yourself go back to school get a Trade if you are good with your Hands. or Law Enforcement but get a Criminal Justice Degree to put you in the door. or Postal Services, Park Ranger if you can give classes to Soldier and march 12 miles and like the outdoors you can be one. I took two trades A CDL Truck Driver and Industrial Refrigeration and I make more money then my Brother who has a Masters Degree in Human Resources .

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 12 at 2018 5:44 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Thu, 12 Jul 2018 05:44:27 -0400

It'd depend what you'd want, school? Work? Ambitions? Interests? Goals? Reserve? Guard? AGR? Guard Tech? Reserve Tech? What college have you done, of you could elaborate? What major would you want if you went back? STEM? Non-STEM? Clinical? Nonclinical? Obviously, you could try for criminal justice and police, regardless of what level, local, state, Federal, certainly, however, that'd depend on what you'd want, of course...it'd help to know more, to be able to suggest more, if Gould elaborate at all, possibly, so far as possible, of course....

Response by SPC Joseph Durham made Aug 15 at 2018 5:45 PM

SPC Joseph Durham — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 17:45:38 -0400

When you served your 4 years or retired, don't stop! Go to school is very important in today's job market. School for anything, just do it. Your first year of school is basically going to see how much of your HS stuff you remember any how. Go from there. Don't stop!
What I did was went 4 years in Math and Physics. Then was recruited back into the Government doing work that my army days more than prepared me for at a substantial higher salary. All I can say is I had a fun time.
Just never stop learning. And btw, not all people are cut out for college. If trade school is the way you want to go, God Bless you and do a great job!

Response by SGT Rich Levesque made May 5 at 2019 9:45 AM

SGT Rich Levesque — Sun, 05 May 2019 09:45:27 -0400

Cop. Be a cop. That's what I did after I separated.

Response by PFC Rick Schuetz made Apr 23 at 2020 11:29 PM

PFC Rick Schuetz — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 23:29:18 -0400

Grunts are the backbone of our great Army. Hard work and heavy lifting win the day. Like anything else in life you can go as far as your talents and work ethic take you. There is no problem with trying different things. Stay disciplined. Use your time wisely.

Response by CPT Daniel Cox made Jan 9 at 2022 9:33 PM

CPT Daniel Cox — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 21:33:40 -0500

Ones where you say, "Do you want fries with that?"
I am only kidding. That fact is, depending on how long you were in and what rank you attained, having an 11B MOS is not a deterrent. My late wife worked with transitioning soldiers (Yeah, that meant something different when I was in) and could pull out leadership experience, discipline, teamwork, and other resume buzzwords to go with the military service. It is what else you have done, like taking classes toward a degree, community service, and many other things. Talk to the people at/before discharge or wherever you go after leaving and talk to American Legion or VFW Rep for help.

Response by SSG Don Maggart made Oct 8 at 2022 3:47 PM

SSG Don Maggart — Sat, 08 Oct 2022 15:47:00 -0400

Still Marching Single File