What moral (not legal) obligations does the United States have in International Human Rights matters?

2018-01-10T14:02:36-05:00

Just some food for thought....

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Response by SPC David Willis made Jan 10 at 2018 2:07 PM

2018-01-10T14:07:36-05:00

Ohh Im not sure. I certainly don't want to be world police and deploy everywhere, but I think our countries history of being buddy buddy with habitual line stepping countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel (practiced by all presidents) is a bad one to have. Other than that though Id like to see us scale back military and financial support of others across the board. There are certain areas of the world that just need to settle their own beef. If things get really bad in a particular region the entire world will help, not just America.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2018 2:34 PM

2018-01-10T14:34:26-05:00

As well as we are able, we should seek to prove shelter, food, medical care, etc... for refugees and even those trapped in war zones. What we shouldn't do is get involved in the internal affairs of foreign nations. If we are certain that genocide is taking place we should work to build an international coalition that is capable of ending that genocide and protecting human life as quickly as possible.

We should also be willing to condemn governments that fail to respect human rights, or which do not have representative governments and impose sanctions equally on all repressive governments and their officials.

Response by SGT Tony Clifford made Jan 10 at 2018 4:23 PM

2018-01-10T16:23:30-05:00

I don't necessarily think that we have an obligation to international human rights. China has a human rights record to rival North Korea in its brutality. They regularly harvest the organs of prisoners of conscience, religious minorities and anyone they're trying to purge from power. (See Falun Guan, and House Christians). If we were to fight human rights abuses China by the shear numbers, would have to be first on that list. The total death count of the CCP is estimated to be between 65 and 100 million people. (This includes deaths from the great leap forwards famine). Do you think that a war that could potentially kill billions would further the cause of human rights or damage it?

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jan 10 at 2018 5:31 PM

2018-01-10T17:31:31-05:00

The exact same moral obligations every human being in every other country has... To be good, caring, compassionate human beings who care for others and work toward the betterment of our species. Anything less is inevitable societal collapse or species extinction..

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2018 6:57 PM

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Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Jan 10 at 2018 7:04 PM

2018-01-10T19:04:06-05:00

There is no obligation. If people halfway around the world felt like going and killing one another, we could find a moral reason to stay out of it. Like keeping our own people alive. Let the rest of the world burn to the ground and we can move in afterwards.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2018 9:12 PM

2018-01-10T21:12:03-05:00

Who cares about international human rights? The only reason we should be involved in something is if it benefits America if it doesn't benefit us then who cares. If the people aren't willing to do anything about their government then why should we??? Also if we do get involved then the situation needs to be contained not escalated into a international crises look at the middle east now.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Jan 11 at 2018 6:26 AM

2018-01-11T06:26:00-05:00

Not all human rights issues can be solved by external forces. We also have to be careful about providing aid to governments that do not really care about their people. If they did care about them the crisis may not be occurring min the first place.

Since all human rights issues do not have the same cause and consequently the same resolution it is a hard question to answer directly. We have no obligation in these matters, we do them because we want to relieve suffering where possible.

Suffering is not always easy to relieve. In many cases, the human rights issues are created buy the very governments of the countries these people live in. Without taking out the government, you cannot really resolve the issue. Taking out government leaders and allowing the power vacuum to take effect does not usually end well. Take Libya for a recent example.