What opportunities are available to allow an active duty soldier some more time to dedicate towards education while still serving in a unit?

2018-07-07T04:18:18-04:00

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Jul 7 at 2018 5:04 AM

2018-07-07T05:04:59-04:00

While on active duty, unless on an education program, you will pursue your education on your spare time.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 7 at 2018 5:14 AM

2018-07-07T05:14:31-04:00

Look at the other stuff I sent you in your other thread, you'll see all I sent....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 7 at 2018 5:16 AM

2018-07-07T05:16:01-04:00

Now here's the thing g, OK? What you were told Jere is quite true, however, you increase the cha CE to go full time, whether to FpAFIT or NPS, the naval eqiuiv, or a civilian school, if you show you're serious by doing a good deal on your own, trust me, in that sutft, God helps those who help the!selves, honest, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 7 at 2018 5:17 AM

2018-07-07T05:17:23-04:00

If your I stallation has an educ ctr, fi d what programs they bring in or do video online for, and get over there every high, camp out in the p!ace, where I was brought in schools, I was an idiot, I did it the hard way, I blew opportunities left, right, up, down, and sideways, because I was a p!uperfect idiot....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 7 at 2018 5:19 AM

2018-07-07T05:19:04-04:00

If your sit has a mil aero club, or there's o e near you, use it and go, get your FAA sport and private pilot license, I strument rating, multiengine, commercial pilot license, also, of at all possible, most mil aero clubs would be happy to help you, we had one, once again , I was a p!uperfect idiot, trust me....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 7 at 2018 5:20 AM

2018-07-07T05:20:12-04:00

If you're eligible for Army rotary wing, try for it, I realize normally they're warrants, however, I've read of Army commissioned being allowed to go...if you want, try for interservice for USAF, USN or USMC or USCG flight, as well....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 7 at 2018 5:21 AM

2018-07-07T05:21:46-04:00

And for God's sake, elaborate, willya? Hobbies, interests, sports, martial arts, undergrad manor, GPA grades, what !asters or doctoral stuff you've done thus far, what efforts you've made on your own, help us by giving more, and we can all help you by suggesting more, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 7 at 2018 5:25 AM

2018-07-07T05:25:02-04:00

Believe me, I've been where you are now, which svc is irrelevant, they're all the same in those regards, the more you do or try to do, the more tour be recognized for trying, in all likelihood, of you lay around like a bump on a log, you're never gonna get noticed, OK? So for God's sake, as I'd said, elaborate and we can suggest stuff, OK? Do a detailed thorough bio sketch, type it out, resume style, so far as possible, for God's sake, and send it in Jere, OK? René!net, DETAILED, so far as you're cmfortable, OK? The more we know, the more we can suggest, honest.....

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jul 7 at 2018 6:51 AM

2018-07-07T06:51:12-04:00

I will assume this starts with you. You obviously have at least 4 years of college. You have an Army commitment, during that commitment we ask that our young Officers learn their line duties and be fully prepared to lead their men and women in combat along side the NCO. If you remain beyond that commitment you will have several opportunities to advance your studies. Your Advanced trainjng, CGSC, the Army War College and others all provide ample opportunity to advance your degrees. During your current commitment your duty is to train your men and women, if you raise your skill set to the level of competency required of an Officer then use your spare time to advance your degree. Thank you for your service. Oh, and service for leaders refers to selfless service. It is not about me, but my unit, the Army and the defense of our country.

Response by CSM Arthur La Rue made Jul 7 at 2018 8:36 AM

2018-07-07T08:36:48-04:00

LT, should I assume you’re asking for yourself of one of your soldiers? Please clarify.

Response by LTC John Mohor made Jul 7 at 2018 8:39 AM

2018-07-07T08:39:06-04:00

It's called evenings and weekends while not on duty. Or get an ROTC assignment so you can incorporate a Masters Program class attendance into your duty day. That's been my perception

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 7 at 2018 11:37 AM

2018-07-07T11:37:23-04:00

The Active Army sometimes allows someone at the rank of Major paid time off to pursue a Master's Degree. I know a Major from the 25th ID (who was a Captain in Korea) time to study in D.C. to complete his Degree. He was also promoted as well. Afterwards, He went to a Thai Service School equivalent to CGSOC. He is going to be Foreign Area Officer at the Thai Embassy. This Officer Speaks fluent Thai. I am in the USAR and I don't have my Master's.
LTC Stephen C. LTC Stephen F. MAJ David Potter @LTC fish COL M Stock COL Mikel J. Burroughs CPT Chris Loomis 1LT Sandy Annala LTC John Mohor COL Private RallyPoint Member CSM Charles Hayden CPT Jack Durish SPC David S. SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL

Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made Jul 7 at 2018 3:59 PM

2018-07-07T15:59:09-04:00

Correspondence courses

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jul 7 at 2018 10:10 PM

2018-07-07T22:10:07-04:00

Check the Solider for Life Center- it is damn hard with OP Tempo and the closer to the Tip of the Spear- the harder it becomes.

Response by MAJ Raúl Rovira made Jan 13 at 2019 8:15 PM

2019-01-13T20:15:25-05:00

Unfortunately, we have to do it on our own time. Unless we are in an army paid educational program.

I began graduate school online when I was at the CPT's advanced course. at my units, I had several bosses who told me "now is not the time to be working on graduate school". Keep in mind that I did everything at home and on my own time. I ended up having to take classes deployed too. At the end of the day, I graduated and my Army work never suffered. I had only one boss who said to me, "I understand why you did it and I can see how if you wait for the perfect time, you will never get there."

When the Army instituted the "No Major Left Behind" for ILE / CGSOC, I was picked to do the online version. Yes, exiting... This means I could not pursue a graduate program at Leavenworth.

I was on diplomatic duty at an embassy when started and finished ILE. I figured out that both UMUC and CMU grant 5 classes (18 graduate credits) from ILE towards a masters degree. I chose to do school again on my own time in preparation for retirement.

My points to you: Do what makes sense to you. Go for it. There is never a perfect time.

As my wise platoon sergeant said to me once "The sooner you start, the sooner you will finish" Retired MSG Jaime Rodriguez was an Armor 19 series with 13 rotations at NTC. He finished his Bachelors on his own time. When I attended his graduation, that was my inspiration to go all in for graduate school.

Picture of Jaime and I in 2000 after the Manchu mile in Korea. Yes, tankers can walk too :)

Response by MAJ Raúl Rovira made Aug 21 at 2019 10:55 PM

2019-08-21T22:55:51-04:00

For my response, I will assume that you are going through graduate school on your own time. Regardless if you are paying out of pocket, GI Bill or TA.

The harsh reality is that it is on your own time.

Only once for graduate school I as the BN XO if I could come in at noon on a Friday and Monday to complete work at the end of a semester. I explained my position, what I did ahead at work to prevent any issues. He agreed.

Response by MAJ Raúl Rovira made Dec 8 at 2019 5:10 PM

2019-12-08T17:10:51-05:00

Army education is done on Army time. Personal education is done during personal time. Unfortunately, that is the reality.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2019 5:42 PM

2019-12-08T17:42:43-05:00

Ed center. Sign up for classes. Use TA and do it on your off time. Period.