What other options exist to commission into the AMEDD (besides HPSP, IPAP, MSW)? Can G2G be used to pursue a medical profession?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:37:04 -0400

I am enlisted in RA and looking at different options to commission. I am most interested in pursuing a career within the medical specialist corps. From my research I found serveral AMEDD programs(HPSP, IPAP, MSW) but these scholorship programs seem to be geared to specific MOSs I am not interested or have requirements I do not meet. Green to Gold seems like a viable option but from the research I gathered a specific MOS can not be guaranteed upon being commissioned throught the G2G program. My questions are: Are there other AMEDD scholarship programs for all the other AMEDD specialties, that are not part of the programs I previously mentioned(ex. Programs for Pharmacist, clinical pharmacologist, etc.)? If not, could the G2G program be used to get a Masters degree in a specific field associated with a medical profession; there by making the requirements for a specific medical MOS and guaranteeing that medical MOS after graduation?
Background: BA in Social Sciences, 5yrs active service, 30yrs old. Any information/guidance is much appreciated.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 11 at 2018 10:49 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:49:30 -0400

https://www.usphs.gov/student/

Read this...

Student Opportunities at USPHS Commissioned Corps

USPHS Commissioned Corps: internships, financial assistance, loan repayments, externships, other student opportunies.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 11 at 2018 10:50 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:50:29 -0400

https://usphs.gov/student/jrcostep.aspx

And this....

JRCOSTEP at USPHS Commissioned Corps

PHS internships and externships: JRCOSTEP. USPHS Commissioned Corps.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 11 at 2018 10:51 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:51:19 -0400

https://www.usphs.gov/student/srcostep.aspx

This too....

SRCOSTEP at USPHS Commissioned Corps

Financial assistance from USPHS Commissioned Corps: SRCOSTEP.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 11 at 2018 10:52 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:52:27 -0400

https://www.usuhs.edu/graded/doctoral

Look at these...the can also be done as a civil servant, I'd read in the past....

Uniformed Services University

The mission of the Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences is to educate, train, and comprehensively prepare uniformed services health professionals, scientists, and leaders to support the Military and Public Health Systems, the National Security and National Defense Strategies of the United States, and the readiness of our Uniformed Services.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 11 at 2018 10:53 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:53:45 -0400

Believe me when I tell you, if I'd known USPHS existed, I'd never have gone the way I went; I honestly didn't know, had I known, I'd have spared myself beaucoup aggravation, I assure you, let me send a couple more, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 11 at 2018 10:54 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:54:47 -0400

https://usphs.gov/aboutus/dod-hhs/job-opportunities.aspx

Look at this....

DoD-HHS Job Opportunities (3 YEAR OBLIGATION)

Current Army Job Opportunities

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 11 at 2018 10:56 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:56:02 -0400

https://www.usphs.gov/aboutus/dod-hhs.aspx

This too....

Military mental health services at USPHS Commissioned Corps

Military behavioral health, mental health services. USPHS Commissioned Corps

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 11 at 2018 11:09 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:41 -0400

Elaborate, OK? You gave a good deal, however, try to give more, I'll try to suggest more...reading, hobbies, interests, GPA, any grad-level coursework thus far? What specific clinical fields do you want, as explicitly as you can explain, and why? Believe me, I realize what you want, I wanted to be on the clinical side so badly I could taste it, I could never get it, however, I've been through just about all of it, I assure you. So, I do think I can suggest things to you, however, I'd need to know a good deal more...do a really thorough, detailed bio sketch, and paste it in here, take the time to really do it right, the more info you can give, the more I can suggest, OK? Also, must it be Army? Would you want to try for the other services? Have you looked at the other services? Have you spent time thus far in any circumstance around anyone clinical, in any field, to observe? Are you EMT? AEMT? Paramedic? I'd seen you're HR...did you ever want corpsman? Did you ever think about or try for corpsman? Trust me when I tell you, I've taken just about everything, passed everything I took, trained and worked before my total perm disability with physicians, dentists, allied health of all sorts, shapes, types, professions, and descriptions...a good deal of clinical work is sheer repetitive, banal drudgery...as Erma Bombeck wrote once as the title of a book, "The Grass is Always Greener on the Other Side of the Septic Tank", OK? I trained in 10 different teaching hospitals before my disability, assisted as a resident with some 300 surgeries, treated, all told, somewhere around 10,000 patients, I assure you. We shut my license off due to my disability sevl yrs ago, however, I can assure you, I've been all over virtually everything that walks, crawls, talks, and and flies in the clinical world, I've made every mistake conceivable, I've seen just about every possible mistake others could also make, as well, so, trust me, I do quite honestly think I can help you, however, it's not about what you want, it's about who wants you, for what, and why, OK? You need to have a very, very clear idea of why you want a given field, exactly what you expect from it, or think you expect, and to realize that the bloom wears of the rose real fast, when you're stuck seeing patient after patient, hour after hour, on call forever, endlessly, rushed through to keep up with your patient load, or get castigated constantly if you take too long with any one particular patient, been there, done that (BTDT), I assure you, OK? So, if you'd want to chat, I'm here, just give me a good deal more, so I can try to suggest more to you...and trust me, you'd get all the clinical, with all the military, you could possibly want with USPHS...if that weren't the case, believe me, I wouldn't have suggested them to you, promise, OK?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 11 at 2018 5:06 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:06:12 -0400

I can’t answer to the other programs but I finish Green to Gold ADO in May and I was given Medical Services - AMEDD. I was 30 when I put in my packet and I got picked up - I used it to finish two degrees - BA History and BS Psychology. When I was going through my packet being reviewed - I was told that Masters degrees get placed in a higher tier because they are in high demand for the Army. And I know a few guys who are going G2G for their Masters.

When they issue branches they go off the OML - basically, a list that ranks Cadets in their final year. OML is based off GPA, PMS ranking, activities in school, camp performance, and a few other smaller things. Based off that, they rank you then look at your top ten choices for Branches - the higher you are ranked the better your chance of getting your top choice. Since I have been in the Program, no one has gotten lower than their fourth choice. The BDE Commander talked to us and told us Cadet Commands goal is to give at least something in their top three. If you don’t get your first choice - you can ADSO where you serve a longer contract (add three years) for your choice of branch or duty station. I’ve never heard of anyone not getting an ADSO who attempted it. So, you are right, your branch isn’t guaranteed but you would really have to underperform or just not try to not get it.

I also want to eventually go Clinical and work in Behavioral Health - I’m going to try to get my Masters online then work towards utilizing one of the AMEDD programs for my Doctorate.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 11 at 2018 6:03 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 18:03:56 -0400

You are too old for a G2G. You have to be under age 31 when you finish your masters program. There are no waivers authorized for age. Have you considered OCS?