What're your thoughts on sending Soldiers to the promotion board, even when the Squad Leader does not agree to do so?

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 May 2014 05:20:46 -0400

The recommendation was done because the Soldier's name came up in the automatic promotion list.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made May 9 at 2014 5:26 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Fri, 09 May 2014 05:26:37 -0400

Shouldn't happen.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2014 7:13 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 May 2014 07:13:49 -0400

It shouldn't happen, Just because the Soldier came up on automatic promotion list doesn't mean the Soldiers is ready. If it was mean I would problay be jumping up and down someones desk with counseling packet in hand and asking why it wasen't brought in earlier.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2014 7:52 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 11 May 2014 19:52:42 -0400

If the Soldier is not ready, then the counseling packet should reflect appropriately. Once a Soldier is denied by the commander from going to the board in the Primary Zone, they should receive a bar.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2014 1:11 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:11:48 -0400

Counsel, counsel and then counsel some more. It has to be in writing. I made that mistake long ago, being too empathetic with a Soldier and relied on verbal counseling. Now, good and bad, everything is in writing! You would hope the CDR supports your recommendation for or against promotion but at the end of the day, by reg, it's the CDR's decision. The board is the safety valve, show the counseling to them and they should deny the Soldier.

Response by CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A. made May 19 at 2014 12:32 AM

CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A. — Mon, 19 May 2014 00:32:23 -0400

Why would you ever want to undermine the authority and confidence of subordinate leaders? It may bet that another solution would be better.

Response by SFC Gary Fox made May 19 at 2014 11:30 AM

SFC Gary Fox — Mon, 19 May 2014 11:30:10 -0400

While I served as a 1SG, I had a Company CDR who believed any SPC who had TIG and TIS should be promoted to SGT. He believed this because 2LTs receive automatic promotions to 1LT and WO1's received automatic promotions to WO2. I educated him that his way of thinking would taint the NCO Corps. He eventually agreed and then would ask me how many points he should award those who would go to before the board.