Posted on Sep 1, 2014
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THIS QUESTION IS NOW NEARING 6 YEARS OLD!!!! Sanity prevailed and SMA Dailey killed that stupid rule.

I got corrected for working out with earphones in while in PTs yesterday. It was during NON PT hours. I looked it up in the new 670-1 and couldn't find it mentioned. It was a 1SG that told me to take them out. Rather than fighting a battle I complied and carried on. Can anyone tell me one where this reg is and two why it is even there?
Also what do YOU think is the dumbest regulation?
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To my understanding you are only authorized to wear headphones when working out indoors. I don't know that this has been formally codified in AR 670-1 yet, although there may be an ALARACT out there. The obvious answer as to why you can't wear them outdoors is the loss of situational awareness. I understand people do it all the time in the civilian world but that's the justification that was given.

As far as stupid regulations, mine involves the camp I'm currently on. I'm deployed to East Africa on a Navy post. They have NCOs from outside of our chain of command conducting room inspections on senior NCOs and officers. I understand the "health and welfare" aspect of it, but they're taking it to the point of writing you up for not making your bed. If you're written up 3 times you're forced to move back into the tents. I haven't had a bed inspection since BCT in 2006. Furthermore, we're in a "combat" zone. Why is this even a priority?

I'll take not wearing headphones outdoors over that chickenshit any day of the week.
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Capt Ken Davis
Capt Ken Davis
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Most of the things we do in the military can be considered games. Be good at yours.
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SSG Brad Kachurka
SSG Brad Kachurka
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Squids...
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SP5 Derick Johnsohne
SP5 Derick Johnsohne
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agree with the safety concern of not wearing earphones outdoors . how many pedestrians die unaware of surrounding dangers ? and as far as making your bed, anytime, sometimes the little details and habits will save your life . i think that was the principle rules are supposed to teach us .
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SGM Charles Twardzicki
SGM Charles Twardzicki
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I see lone hikers and runners in the mountains with earbuds. Darwinism, food for the cougars.
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SGM Frank Marsh
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at Fort Sill once at the hospital...anybody that has ever been there realizes that certain parts of the year it rains incessantly and tornadoes....all the folks running across the parking lot in uniform....one person walking slowly with an umbrella in BDUs, hmmmm. when I got to the entrance he was being addressed for use of the umbrella, not part of the uniform thing...LOL...and he was an E7 reservist called up for active...I always thought that was a dumb rule for sure.
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SSG Brad Kachurka
SSG Brad Kachurka
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LTC Gene Moser that makes perfect military sense because we cant hold an unbrella in the left hand. Ha!
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SGM Robert Gentner
SGM Robert Gentner
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LTC Gene Moser - Old saying "It doesn't rain in the Army! It rains on the Army. As a ranger, I rarely even realized it was raining I was so used to being in the jungle being rained on, Have even sat and sleep in the rain.
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LTC Gene Moser it goes back even further. My understanding was that Napoleon and his Troops thought the Brits looked like such wussies carrying umbrellas that Napoleon banned it. Out NCO Core really go it’s start from French Tripp’s Training our Army during the Revolution. We adopted the tradition and it stuck
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SP5 Derick Johnsohne
SP5 Derick Johnsohne
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MSG Gary George - i remember that one too
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SMA Dailey went to great lengths to get earphones approved while in PTs, and indoors. Assuming you were inside, you were in the right, but it's not the hill worthy dying on.
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Sir, the question was from 4 years ago before the good days of common sense by SMA Dailey.
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You can also wear them outside on a closed track.
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